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What are the seven Kings of Revelation 17:10?

for_his_glory said:
Papal Rome had outlawed the Holy Scriptures during its long reign of 1260 years from 538 A.D. to 1798 A.D.
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This totally untrue. I'm surprised this sort of falsehood still persists.

for_his_glory said:
His number 666 can easily be worked out from his many titles, one of which is ‘Vicarius Filii Dei’ meaning ‘in the place of God.’
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This also it totally untrue as I have already pointed out to you in another thread. ‘Vicarius Filii Dei’ isn't, and has never been, a title of the Pope.
 
gaviria.christian said:
The 7 heads of the first beast of Revelation are Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, Rome, Byzantium, and the United States of Europe, which is the 8th head.
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There is no such thing as the United States of Europe.
Do you mean the United States of America?
 
gaviria.christian said:
What is happening there is a mess. Surely you've heard rumors regarding "EU army" or "EU federalization" or perhaps even "United States of Europe".
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Sure, some people want that. Others don't.
But that's why the UK should get out of it.

BTW Why isn't the United States of America an 8th horn?
 
Mungo instead of saying we are always wrong, why not try to prove we are wrong. Where is your proof we are wrong? Just saying :shrug
 
Mungo said:
Sure, some people want that. Others don't.
But that's why the UK should get out of it.

BTW Why isn't the United States of America an 8th horn?
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Because she is the sister to the 7th making her the 8th, but you would not believe it, but is found in scripture and history as Daniel already gave prophecy for this in Daniel chapter 7.

Rev 17:9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. 10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. 11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.
 
Byzantium didn't come out of Rome and it did not come all the way to the end, which scripture tells us. As for United Europe, these are the ten toes of the image after the Roman Empire, the ten divisions of that Empire, but not the political/religious beast which is the manifestation of the Antichrist power from within the church.
 
reddogs said:
Byzantium didn't come out of Rome and it did not come all the way to the end, which scripture tells us. As for United Europe, these are the ten toes of the image after the Roman Empire, the ten divisions of that Empire, but not the political/religious beast which is the manifestation of the Antichrist power from within the church.
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Byzantium did come out of Rome, hence why it was called the "New Rome" and "Constantinople" after the decline of the Roman empire, which today is called Istanbul. The city has had several names throughout time.
 
gaviria.christian said:
It is America.
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America being ran by the beast will receive the same damnation as the beast because America was founded by the beast and follows after it.

Rev 18:8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication. 9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, 10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
 
The Roman Empire began in 753BC by Romulus who founded Rome in 27BC with Augustus Caesar becoming the first emperor of Rome in 27 BC and died in 14AD. Rome controlled over two million square miles stretching from the Rhine River to Egypt and from Britain (England) to Asia Minor which made up the Grecian Empire of Greece, Turkey, Syria and Egypt. In 146BC the Romans destroyed Corinth during the Battle of Corinth and made the Greece Empire into a province of the Roman Empire. This timeline goes from 753BC to 27BC. Nero burned Rome in 64AD and blamed the Christian community in the city causing the Roman Empires first persecution of Christians. In 1453 was the rise of the Ottoman Empire that conquered Constantinople destroying the Byzantine Empire (Eastern Roman Empire) that reigned from 330AD to 1453AD. The Roman Empire was then called the Holy Roman Empire that was a political entity beginning in 800AD - 1806AD from the time of Charlemagne (Holy Roman Emperor) who protected Pope Leo III from Adrian's supporters in Rome to Francis II, King of France. Pope Pius VII was the Pope from 1800-1823. The Roman Empire is known today as Vatican City, a city-state surrounded by Rome and Italy who has diplomatic relations with every nation around the world.
 
for_his_glory said:
America being ran by the beast will receive the same damnation as the beast because America was founded by the beast and follows after it.

Rev 18:8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication. 9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, 10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
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The prostitute of Babylon is Vatican City. She makes the entire world drink of her cup through paper money and fiat currency, which is the true mark of the beast.
 
gaviria.christian said:
The prostitute of Babylon is Vatican City. She makes the entire world drink of her cup through paper money and fiat currency, which is the true mark of the beast.
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There is so much more than the paper money and fiat currency, but unfortunately I can not discuss the deeper things because of the ToS, but can say this Luciferian system of military, political, education and false religious power is even now working and will come to fruition that will last 3 1/2 years. Then will Christ destroy it all by the brightness of His coming in the air.
 
No one sits in the temple of God claiming they are God literally. Correct me if I'm wrong but even if another temple was built there is no way Jews would allow a Man to sit in the holy of holies and be worshipped as God. No human being would ever be worshipped by Jews as God.

No one worships a human as God . It took Jesus to rise from the dead and show himself to others before eye witnesses would believe and the word was spread. Not even his miracles and all the things he done could convince people of anything.

Today's world is even more sceptical with all the scams and delusions. Even if someone turned water into wine today no one would believe them, it's just a magic trick.
 
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kiwidan said:
No one sits in the temple of God claiming they are God literally. Correct me if I'm wrong but even if another temple was built there is no way Jews would allow a Man to sit in the holy of holies and be worshipped as God. No human being would ever be worshipped by Jews as God.

No one worships a human as God . It took Jesus to rise from the dead and show himself to others before eye witnesses would believe and the word was spread. Not even his miracles and all the things he done could convince people of anything.

Today's world is even more sceptical with all the scams and delusions. Even if someone turned water into wine today no one would believe them, it's just a magic trick.
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And for another simple fact is that the Muslims are not going to hand over the Dome of the Rock to any Jew, but, is even now being refurbished for the son of perdition to come to Jerusalem to take his literal seat as he claims to be God, 2 Thessalonians 2:3-12.
 
for_his_glory said:
And for another simple fact is that the Muslims are not going to hand over the Dome of the Rock to any Jew, but, is even now being refurbished for the son of perdition to come to Jerusalem to take his literal seat as he claims to be God, 2 Thessalonians 2:3-12.
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There is no way Muslims would associate a man with Allah. Muslims would never worship a man as God either. Whoever it is that so called literally sits in some temple claiming to be God would never be accepted by Muslims or Jews or Christians as well.

It doesn't make sense. The entire religious world would reject any man who sits in a temple claiming to be God, even if they done miracles. They probably wouldnt last long before they got accused of blasphemy. And the non religious world would just think the person is a joke and should seek a mental health professional.

The closest one could come could be seen as some sort of messiah or prophet, but not God. Jesus already tried and no one can beat his attempt.
 
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