What constitutes good leadership?

[humble soul]

And have you been thrust into a leadership position? How did you go? Do you enjoy being a leader?

 

[humble soul]

I am generally not suited to leadership. that is not to beat myself up about it. I tend to freeze under pressure. making good decisions in the heat of the moment is not my forte.
But I think this is an interesting question because all of us have different expectations. Some like very strong decisive types. Others prefer more consensus type.
During covid 19, strong decisive leadership has generally been the best quality to have. But even then, the leaders need to respect the medical scientific advice.
Our own state leader in western Australia has performed well. he has become extremely popular as a result.
But in normal non covid peace time, a different leadership style is possibly the way to go. Don't interfere with peoples' lives too much for instance.
Any rate I wasn't intending this to go down a political path. I am just interested in what makes good leadership. Ive had different bosses over the years. A boss that really impressed me was one who led by example. He never expected us to do something he couldn't do himself. He showed us how to do it. he was eager enthusiastic and wanted us to be the same. And we were. He had a vision. A passion. And he always encouraged us and wanted us to succeed.
That's just some of my input for the moment......

 

[JohnDB]

I've studied leadership most of my life. Went to college for it. Closely watched others doing it for effectiveness.
And when the "opportunity" presents itself (someone forced me to do it) I do just fine at it.
But it's a lot of work. More than you would think. Lots to keep track of. You have to practically fly and be everywhere at the same time. Breathers don't come often...and are usually followed by a dozen emergencies at the same time.

At work I have refused to do it unless I am getting paid.

At church it's a different environment. One I don't want any part of. There it's all about charisma and showmanship. But being a trusted voice in the ear of the leadership...I can do that if needed. If not needed I keep my mouth shut and follow.

Good leadership is Synonymous with making the most out of the talents people bring with whom you are leading. Everyone has value, everyone has skills, and every last one of them is important. But no one monkey runs the whole show...it's a tightrope to keep it all moving forward.

The worst part is firing someone. But sometimes it's not avoidable and the rest of the group is grateful when you do it.

 

[Who Me]

And have you been thrust into a leadership position? How did you go? Do you enjoy being a leader?

Good leadership strangely involves being able to lead. Not everyone can do this.
What is involved, depends on the style of leadership.
Christian leadership should involve taking everyone with you, not leaving the lame, disobedient and plane stupid behind.

Watch how your church handles a proposed change. Is it clearly explained, how many just don't listen or want to understand or are against any change.

Biblical leadership is very like an Irishman taking a pig to market. He ties a string to its hind leg and let's it run in front.

By teaching the congragation the real questions for a biblical leader are cost and who?


That said it is an ideal situation.

 

[HeIsRisen2018]

I don't really consider myself a leader,.. but I do consider myself a good role model because I always want to do what I know is right and I always tend to follow my heart.

 

[daninthelionsden]

It really depends on what that particular group of followers are looking for at that particular time. Some followers prefer audacity(Hitler) while others prefer experience. Some prefer delegators, while others prefer hands on. Some prefer just and honest leaders while some prefer greedy psychopaths. All of these worldly "attributes" will mean absolutely nothing in the Kingdom to come. Christ Himself said the greatest will SERVE. These qualities of truth, plain forward speech, meekness, integrity and many other Christ-like traits/behaviors have no place, many times, on this earth at this time of the Gentiles. Many who are dismissed in this world will be leaders in the Kingdom and many who are highly thought of now will find themselves last. Humility is a treasured Kingdom attribute that is despised in the world.

 

[humble soul]

Christ was not always meek. And he often talked in riddles rather than plain speech.

 

[daninthelionsden]

Christ was not always meek. And he often talked in riddles rather than plain speech.

Yes, this is true. Jesus was perfect in His methodology and timing. While He did speak in spiritual terms, He did so to confound the nonspiritual. While Christ did some things (Lord's Prayer) to serve as an example, He instructed us to relate to each other directly (Let your yes be yes). He said His ways are not our ways and vice-versa. Many times using worldly methods we will fail to avoid self-serving manipulation of others. We must avoid pride, impatience, prejudice and bias pollutions of our actions. We cannot allow ourselves to fall victim to participating in popularity contests or hero /relationship worship, thereby blinding us to the Lord's will for our behavior. A humble spirit sets us up to receive the Lord's training, through the Holy Spirit, for our place in the Kingdom. The world's way teaches one to succeed in the world....not the Kingdom. If we try to rely on our own understanding,...........you know the rest.

 

[humble soul]

Some of us dont succeed in either Kingdoms.

 

[humble soul]

Yes, this is true. Jesus was perfect in His methodology and timing. While He did speak in spiritual terms, He did so to confound the nonspiritual. While Christ did some things (Lord's Prayer) to serve as an example, He instructed us to relate to each other directly (Let your yes be yes). He said His ways are not our ways and vice-versa. Many times using worldly methods we will fail to avoid self-serving manipulation of others. We must avoid pride, impatience, prejudice and bias pollutions of our actions. We cannot allow ourselves to fall victim to participating in popularity contests or hero /relationship worship, thereby blinding us to the Lord's will for our behavior. A humble spirit sets us up to receive the Lord's training, through the Holy Spirit, for our place in the Kingdom. The world's way teaches one to succeed in the world....not the Kingdom. If we try to rely on our own understanding,...........you know the rest.

i had to respond again to your post because i just love that word "confound". This is part of the essence of Jesus teaching. Confound the worldly wise. Having watched Les Miserables today, it is rspecially poignant. Love and forgiveness confound the wise.
It is what my dear humble parents were especially good at too. I sm sure some people thought my parents were born suckers. Too easy to swindle or scam. Yet their love shone forth.
sorry i am all overcthe place today.
anyway "confound the wise" is my phrase of thr month. Forgiving peoole when they dont deserve to be forgiven is huuge. If we can do that wecwill stupefy them. they will br in shock. and just maybe it will transform them.

 

[humble soul]

So say Jesus had to take on a big world leadership position like United nations leader. Or how would his style of leadership go in each country in the world? I think his style of leadership may cause too much reaction. Some prefer more fundamentalist leaders. Iran comes to mind.

 

[Who Me]

I don't really consider myself a leader,.. but I do consider myself a good role model because I always want to do what I know is right and I always tend to follow my heart.

We all want to do what is right. The reason we don't do what is right is that we follow the desires of our heart.

 

[humble soul]

We all want to do what is right. The reason we don't do what is right is that we follow the desires of our heart.

or the dictates of our mind

 

[daninthelionsden]

Some of us dont succeed in either Kingdoms.

If you truly maintain a humble soul and lean on the teachings of God rather than the teachings of man(constantly pray for wisdom/discernment) relying on patience......then you will surely have a place in the Kingdom of our Lord.

 

[Corn Pop]

Good leadership is never forcing your personal belief, opinion, and world view on other people and if they disobey what you believe they get a penalty.

 

[Who Me]

Good leadership is never forcing your personal belief, opinion, and world view on other people and if they disobey what you believe they get a penalty.

A leader has to leader and often the followers don't want to follow. If the followers are required to be there, you are the team leader at work, then you do force your view or the companies view on them.
They work in the way the company says, they will follow procedures regardless of whether they like them.

In a church situation a minister will teach his congregation.
This sometimes means teaching them that what they believe is wrong. There views have to change.

A good leader will do they gently.

 

[humble soul]

Does a good leader start an "Employee of the Month" award? The only reward being a photo with your boss and shared with staff via technology. "Humble Soul smiles every say and never questions my authority."

 

[humble soul]

the first part is true but no i didnt get the award. should i strive more?

 

[Corn Pop]

A leader has to leader and often the followers don't want to follow. If the followers are required to be there, you are the team leader at work, then you do force your view or the companies view on them.
They work in the way the company says, they will follow procedures regardless of whether they like them.

In a church situation a minister will teach his congregation.
This sometimes means teaching them that what they believe is wrong. There views have to change.

A good leader will do they gently.

That is why some companies fail and some churches fail. Think about what you said. Does a employer always know more than there employees who acturally eye witness?. Does a church leader know more about scripture than the people in the church?.

 

[Who Me]

That is why some companies fail and some churches fail. Think about what you said. Does a employer always know more than there employees who acturally eye witness?. Does a church leader know more about scripture than the people in the church?.

Often yes they do. Churches do not fail because a minister is seeking to lead.
They may fail because the leader is leading in the wrong direction, or his manner alienates his people, or due to rivalry within the church.

If one joins a church, that is has formally become a member, then one has considered what is being taught, how the congragation follows that teaching, how the church works together as well as the character of the minister.
In joining a church one is submitting to the authority of that churches leadership.

As a member one isxable to talk to the minister and others in leadership, at formal church buisiness meetings can discuss, raise queries etc but once decissions have been made one should support them.