what did jesus look like??

[Gary]

WHERE ARE THE FRINGES AND BORER OF BLUE ON HIS GARMENT ?? AS WRITTEN IN TORAH LAW THIS IS JESUS

Nice job on keeping the colors inside the lines.

 

[YosefHayim]

WHERE ARE THE FRINGES AND BORER OF BLUE ON HIS GARMENT ?? AS WRITTEN IN TORAH LAW THIS IS JESUS

BHI is a cult. It's part of the system. Bound by the law, and forgetting grace. Scriptures say those who trust in the law and not the grace of Christ are blinded.

You hold up your star of David. Which is not of David. It is the star of Satan. The whole BHI cult throws this symbol up. And it is not of God. Yah never told David to create a star to represent him, David, nor Israel. The star of David didn't represent the Jews until the 17th century.

The North Pole of Saturn

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The North pole of saturn has a storm, which flows CCW and is shaped like a hexagon. Saturn is represented in false religions, such as Islam. They flow around the Saturn cube (2d hexagon) of mecca CCW. Islam vs Saturn

But ye have borne the tabernacle of your Moloch and Chiun your images, the star of your god, which ye made to yourselves. Amos 5:26 KJV

Parallel: And you carried the tent of your king — and Saturn, your star god idols that you crafted for yourselves. Amos 5:26 ISV

Cross Ref: Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the star of your god Remphan, figures which ye made to worship them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon. Acts 7:43

Commentary: And for yea, A.V.; the god Rephan for your god Remphan, A.V. and T.R.; the figures for figures, A.V. The god Rephan. Rephan, or Raiphan, or Remphan, as it is variously written, is the LXX. translation of the Hebrew Chiun in Amos 5:26. The best explanation of this is that Rephan is the Coptic name of the planet Saturn, well-known of course to the LXX., and that Chiun is the Hebrew and Arabic name of the same star, which they therefore translated by Rephan. Pulpit Commentary

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""The Tzionist movement was the driving force to make the Hexagram a Jewish symbol.

“When thinking of Jewish symbols, one of the first to come to mind is the Magen David. However, the Magen David was not always a Jewish symbol. The Magen David or the hexagram [six-sided figure] was found in early remains of the Nabateans from the first century. It appeared in Israel in the second century CE at Kfar Nahum alongside pentagrams [five-sided figure] and other designs but seemingly without any symbolic overtones.


Magen David means "Shield" of "David" and the term "shield" or "magen" is used often in Jewish prayers. However why David's shield? Legend has it that Solomon had a magic ring which bore a pentagram, the Druids believed the sign contained magical powers and in fact it was the Kabbalist Joseph Gikatilla who mentions the hexagram for the first time in the 13th century. Many stories abound but the one I find most appealing is that God protected David from six sides - hence the origin of the Magen David, a six-pointed star.


Gershom Scholem believes that Prague is the starting point of the Magen David's rise into the Jewish world and traces this to the flag displayed by the community, a yellow Magen David on a red background. In the 1650s Vienna chose the hexagram as its seal and the ghetto's boundary marker from 1656 shows a cross in a circle and a Magen David containing a circle. When the Jews were expelled from Prague in 1630, it is believed that the Magen David was introduced into the different communities where they moved. In 1512, once again in Prague, the Magen David became a printer's mark and by the mid 16th century Tobias Foa incorporated the Magen David as part of his printing logo in Venice. The Foa family continued to use it in the 18th and 19th century in Amsterdam.


Jews were forced to wear the yellow star during the Holocaust and it became a symbol of mockery. Gershom Shalom sums up this duality: "The sign which in our own days has been sanctified by suffering and dread has become worthy of illuminating the path of life and reconstruction. Before ascending, the path led down into the abyss; there the symbol received its ultimate humiliation and there it won its greatness.""" (http://www.doingzionism.org/resources/view.asp?id=46)​

 

[Obadiah]

We don't need people here promoting cults and their philosophies, that's for sure! It's not tolerated.

 

[jasonc]

uhm that link is off, the star david isn't from that. you can look it up.
masonry isn't part of jewry, one doesn't have to a jew and a mason. modern jews that I read up from don't believe that at all. its from the caballah or the also an oral story from the shield of david and it wasn't used until the late 1800's in mass. if we were to go there..

Christianity is a pagan faith because the cross is a pagan symbol of idolatry. and its all true. the Babylonians used the cross to offer human sacrifice, the romans used to torture and to punish by death. but its origin is still pagan.

chiun and chemosh were still worshipped in the day of jesus. the star of david is believed to have been used by the jews then

http://judaism.about.com/od/judaismbasics/a/starofdavid.htm

so it depends on the star of david and the story one wants to believe where it came from. why is it that most conspiracies are always hating jews in some sort?

however, some say that Christianity is also pagan based on it usage of the cross. the fact that chiun or chemosh , both a sex cult, isn't as easily connected to jewry. jews don't offer their kids up to them these days. they weren't even doing that during the first advent. if they were the Lord would have said something. they had their sin and were judged for that sin and it wasn't offering up to fertililty cults.

 

[YosefHayim]

uhm that link is off, the star david isn't from that. you can look it up.
masonry isn't part of jewry, one doesn't have to a jew and a mason. modern jews that I read up from don't believe that at all. its from the caballah or the also an oral story from the shield of david and it wasn't used until the late 1800's in mass. if we were to go there..

Christianity is a pagan faith because the cross is a pagan symbol of idolatry. and its all true. the Babylonians used the cross to offer human sacrifice, the romans used to torture and to punish by death. but its origin is still pagan.

chiun and chemosh were still worshipped in the day of jesus. the star of david is believed to have been used by the jews then

http://judaism.about.com/od/judaismbasics/a/starofdavid.htm

so it depends on the star of david and the story one wants to believe where it came from. why is it that most conspiracies are always hating jews in some sort?

however, some say that Christianity is also pagan based on it usage of the cross. the fact that chiun or chemosh , both a sex cult, isn't as easily connected to jewry. jews don't offer their kids up to them these days. they weren't even doing that during the first advent. if they were the Lord would have said something. they had their sin and were judged for that sin and it wasn't offering up to fertililty cults.

1. Jesus was persecuted on a saturnic symbol out of mockery

2. The fact that the Star of David has nothing to do with Judaism is not a conspiracy, nor is it hating the Jews. It's saying that it's not of David, God, Israel, nor the Jews. You are taking my post out of context.

3. Saturn and Kabalah are connected. Why do you think they use the symbol? The symbol is clearly occult in origin. And if it could be associated with any character of the bible, it would be Solomon and not David. The star is known as the Seal of Solomon. He fell into the occult, and gave into saturn worship.

Then Solomon built a high place for Chemosh the abomination of Moab, and for Molech [saturn: see amos 5:26] the abomination of the Ammonites, on the mountain east of Jerusalem. 1 Kings 11:7​

4. I did not say Jews are Masons. I merely gave examples of the Star of David being used in the occult throughout history.

5. Your link even shows the occultic nature of the star.

6. The bible condemns the star of Saturn in both the OT and the NT. Case close.

7. You should read Ephesians. Zoom into chapter 6. Specifically verse 12. It may be hard to stomach. But that right there points out that there is a cosmic "conspiracy". Spiritual wickedness in high places.

 

[YosefHayim]

1. Jesus was persecuted on a saturnic symbol out of mockery

2. The fact that the Star of David has nothing to do with Judaism is not a conspiracy, nor is it hating the Jews. It's saying that it's not of David, God, Israel, nor the Jews. You are taking my post out of context.

3. Saturn and Kabalah are connected. Why do you think they use the symbol? The symbol is clearly occult in origin. And if it could be associated with any character of the bible, it would be Solomon and not David. The star is known as the Seal of Solomon. He fell into the occult, and gave into saturn worship.

Then Solomon built a high place for Chemosh the abomination of Moab, and for Molech [saturn: see amos 5:26] the abomination of the Ammonites, on the mountain east of Jerusalem. 1 Kings 11:7​

4. I did not say Jews are Masons. I merely gave examples of the Star of David being used in the occult throughout history.

5. Your link even shows that the Hexagram is occultic.

6. The bible condemns the star of Saturn in both the OT and the NT. Case close.

 

[jasonc]

1. Jesus was persecuted on a saturnic symbol out of mockery

2. The fact that the Star of David has nothing to do with Judaism is not a conspiracy, nor is it hating the Jews. It's saying that it's not of David, God, Israel, nor the Jews. You are taking my post out of context.

3. Saturn and Kabalah are connected. Why do you think they use the symbol? The symbol is clearly occult in origin. And if it could be associated with any character of the bible, it would be Solomon and not David. The star is known as the Seal of Solomon. He fell into the occult, and gave into saturn worship.

Then Solomon built a high place for Chemosh the abomination of Moab, and for Molech [saturn: see amos 5:26] the abomination of the Ammonites, on the mountain east of Jerusalem. 1 Kings 11:7​

4. I did not say Jews are Masons. I merely gave examples of the Star of David being used in the occult throughout history.

5. Your link even shows the occultic nature of the star.

6. The bible condemns the star of Saturn in both the OT and the NT. Case close.

7. You should read Ephesians. Zoom into chapter 6. Specifically verse 12. It may be hard to stomach. But that right there points out that there is a cosmic "conspiracy". Spiritual wickedness in high places.

the star of Saturn? really? so I guess YOU are the REAL Christian then since most here are Christian Zionists. do they know that stuff? yup I learned it all along time ago. out of context? really? here:

You hold up your star of David. Which is not of David. It is the star of Satan. The whole BHI cult throws this symbol up. And it is not of God. Yah never told David to create a star to represent him, David, nor Israel. The star of David didn't represent the Jews until the 17th century.

its older then that. you have called the jewish Zionists guilty of occult. are they worshipping that symbol, in fact to them has NO symbolic value. messianic jews use the star of david. I guess they are occultist to.

I reasearched this , I went to a person who was into the occult and read the Zohar and said nope, not the same to be associated with the claim. they don't deny that others used it. but gee we use the cross what exactly is that from? the occult itself. look it up.

 

[jasonc]

right sure show evidence that local jewish temple of Chassidic jews and reformed and others are killing kids and offering them to the god Saturn, chemosh?
you made that claim. I read the caballah I do know what it is. its not some cult like that. It doesn't tell one to have sex with what moves, in fact that is a sin to the jews. they are anti gay rights and anti-abortion.

http://www.chabad.org/library/artic...sh/I-Have-Enough-Blessings-Should-I-Abort.htm

http://www.chabad.org/parshah/article_cdo/aid/275063/jewish/Moral-is-Normal.htm

they practice the kabbalah, eeek! the first link is answered by a man who does kids kabbalah videos. so how cant it be that he is doing the occult?

 

[jasonc]

some anti-semetic links.

note the quotes of henry ford. the Detroit free press.

http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=338

I bet that doingzionism link if it worked would have that as well.

 

[YosefHayim]

some anti-semetic links.

note the quotes of henry ford. the Detroit free press.

http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=338

I bet that doingzionism link if it worked would have that as well.

I'm not even going to talk to closed ears since you keep insisting that I'm speaking against Jews, when in fact I am for the Jews. What I'm against, is a symbol that God already made his hatred against known clear in both Acts and Amos. Perhaps you think the Word of God is wrong?

Maybe you should read some more about kabalah, and not just a few tight and lacking sources such as About and Chabad. Kabalah is not Jewish. Saturn worship is all throughout false religions. The facts are clear. But I'm not going to argue against vapid and irrelevant claims. I'm not here to argue. I'm pointing out the reality of the BHI cult. The BHI are a cult, far from the grace of God and judaizing with the law.

 

[jasonc]

I'm not even going to talk to closed ears since you keep insisting that I'm speaking against Jews, when in fact I am for the Jews. What I'm against, is a symbol that God already made his hatred against known clear in both Acts and Amos. Perhaps you think the Word of God is wrong?

Maybe you should read some more about kabalah, and not just a few tight and lacking sources such as About and Chabad. Kabalah is not Jewish. Saturn worship is all throughout false religions. The facts are clear.

caballah worship isn't jewish? odd that is from what source? they do it , they did about ad 100. it wasn't formalized until later. im not for it either but to assume that all false worship is Saturn is too broad of a brush.

is a Mormon a Saturn worshipper?
is an atheist a Saturn worshipper?
is a any lost person. I merely showing that the sources you are using about jews are off. that is it. the link there about Zionism is worded so that no Christians would support isreal of today, a Zionist Is what?

the link again it doesn't work.

 

[jasonc]

there is no clear link from the star of david to the star of rephraim. that is also my point. just because its six sided it doesn't mean its is from that. a messianic jew wouldn't use it it was that obvious yet they do.

the first link please.

 

[YosefHayim]

caballah worship isn't jewish? odd that is from what source? they do it , they did about ad 100. it wasn't formalized until later. im not for it either but to assume that all false worship is Saturn is too broad of a brush.

is a Mormon a Saturn worshipper?
is an atheist a Saturn worshipper?
is a any lost person. I merely showing that the sources you are using about jews are off. that is it. the link there about Zionism is worded so that no Christians would support isreal of today, a Zionist Is what?

the link again it doesn't work.

Like I said nothing but strawman arguments.

 

[jasonc]

I go to the chabad because they are the largest jewish sect. that is why. you might be amazed if one just asks. I asked a master mason what he believe and he told me. we have one here mike s.

 

[YosefHayim]

I go to the chabad because they are the largest jewish sect. that is why. you might be amazed if one just asks. I asked a master mason what he believe and he told me. we have one here mike s.

Hahahaha. Master mason? That's 3rd degree. I'm done here.

I'm sorry you think Kabalah is Jewish. That's to say mormonism and islam are Christian.

 

[jasonc]

Like I said nothing but strawman arguments.

you said t
Saturn worship is all throughout false religions.

since I was a Jehovah's witness and that is a cult. tell me what do they do that is to be found in the Saturn cult?

they don't worship the right god, and they are out there but they also don't do the fertility cult. you do realize that you posted that jewry of today is a fertility cult.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn_(mythology)
edit: to add this and you have that in a link in the Saturn vs islam, Saturn and the black cube.
http://illuminatiwatcher.com/saturn-worship-a-beginners-guide/ I read up on that from the wiki link. its the same what they said about the worship of Saturn. if one is going to call my grandparents and my dad child killers and devil worshippers of that nature I want proof. my dad is jewish and did the caballah. yet he and my grandparents were into sexual purity.

you also mentioned the planet worship. own it and you claimed it and found it. I didn't post the illuminati watch links where it goes into that this is a fertility cult.

 

[jasonc]

Hahahaha. Master mason? That's 3rd degree. I'm done here.

I'm sorry you think Kabalah is Jewish. That's to say mormonism and islam are Christian.

for what its? it is part of what they have. they made it that way.
so is the Talmud and aslo other things. the added that after ad 70 and in part before. the Talmud was oral until about the third century. the Mishnah is older and was around at time of the lord.

so what is the original jewish faith? tell me where to find it? the kariates are small and hard to find but they exist. the Pharisees are the origins of modern jewry. the saducees and essenes were wiped out.

 

[Kathi]

Gotta make sure to keep this thread respectful.Afterall you are talking about God :neutral

 

[YosefHayim]

for what its? it is part of what they have. they made it that way.
so is the Talmud and aslo other things. the added that after ad 70 and in part before. the Talmud was oral until about the third century. the Mishnah is older and was around at time of the lord.

so what is the original jewish faith? tell me where to find it? the kariates are small and hard to find but they exist. the Pharisees are the origins of modern jewry. the saducees and essenes were wiped out.

Kabalah is the attempt of meshing the occult and the OT! This is why this conversation is worthless. Same as Mormonism, which has Masonic rootes, which has Kabalistic root, which has Babylonian roots! I rest my case on Amos 5:26 and the word of God. Seek and ye shall find indeed. I would not be claiming things that can be easily researched.

And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people,
that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
Revelation 18:4​

 

[jasonc]

Kabalah is the attempt of meshing the occult and the OT! This is why this conversation is worthless. Same as Mormonism, which has Masonic rootes, which has Kabalistic roots, which has Babylonian roots! I rest my case on Amos 5:26 and the word of God.

And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people,
that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
Revelation 18:4​

I never said it was good, only that you assumed that its from the Saturn cult which does what?