what did jesus look like??

[jasonc]

do atheist have plans to offer kids to the altar? you also did claim that. so now you change. if you are going to post a link be sure you actually read what they say. I try to. that link implied modern fertility cults. Judaism nor Mormonism do that. that is all im saying. but they are those that hate jews that imply that.

http://www.talmudblasphemy.com/
the first page. says just that.

ok now I know where you stand. use better links next time. I know what the caballah is, even though its questionable if it came from the Babylonians. which well jews were there.

 

[YosefHayim]

I never said it was good, only that you assumed that its from the Saturn cult which does what?

The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly. John 10:10

 

[jasonc]

The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly. John 10:10

see next post. that really isn't what is used to support that.

 

[YosefHayim]

do atheist have plans to offer kids to the altar? you also did claim that. so now you change. if you are going to post a link be sure you actually read what they say. I try to. that link implied modern fertility cults. Judaism nor Mormonism do that. that is all im saying. but they are those that hate jews that imply that.

http://www.talmudblasphemy.com/
the first page. says just that.

ok now I know where you stand. use better links next time. I know what the caballah is, even though its questionable if it came from the Babylonians. which well jews were there.

I never said Jews worship Saturn. The star of Saturn was adopted by them. Most religions don't even know what they're worshiping to begin with, so you expect them to know what else they stem from (1 Cor 10:20) ?

In essence, here's what I said: False religions have evidence of Saturn(aka cronos) in them.

Here's what you think I said: Everyone in the entire world knowingly worships Saturn.

http://www.factsbehindfaith.com/Satan-astrology.html
https://kabbalastrology.wordpress.com/category/saturn-2/
http://gnosticteachings.org/courses/kabbalah-1-klipoth/72-klipoth-7-saturn.html

Orphics sometimes identified the Golden Age with the era of the god Phanes, who was regent over the Olympus before Cronus. In classical mythology however, the Golden Age was associated with the reign of Saturn.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Age
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http://www.openbible.info/topics/golden_age

 

[jasonc]

knowingly worships Saturn? I was into the occult and I didn't worship Saturn.

that is again to broad of a a brush. many will inadvertently admit it. if they didn't how else would the anti-masons have imagery of masonry worshipping satan?

the caballah is whacky but they don't worship that planet. just because its so on the internet doesn't mean it is. there is mis info on that. If I wanted to see If some anti-muslim person is right about the quran. I should take his word because he is a Christian? I shouldn't read it myself? that is kinda what im saying. I do read that for reasons. to see what they say and also to know. that aint a sin.

see my link about jews being called akin to islam, a group of pedophiles.

 

[jasonc]

I never said Jews worship Saturn. The star of Saturn was adopted by them. Most religions don't even know what they're worshiping to begin with, so you expect them to know what else they stem from (1 Cor 10:20) ?

In essence, here's what I said: False religions have evidence of Saturn(aka cronos) in them.

Here's what you think I said: Everyone in the entire world knowingly worships Saturn.

http://www.factsbehindfaith.com/Satan-astrology.html
https://kabbalastrology.wordpress.com/category/saturn-2/
http://gnosticteachings.org/courses/kabbalah-1-klipoth/72-klipoth-7-saturn.html

Orphics sometimes identified the Golden Age with the era of the god Phanes, who was regent over the Olympus before Cronus. In classical mythology however, the Golden Age was associated with the reign of Saturn.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Age
​

http://www.openbible.info/topics/golden_age

if you are going to another of those links about the name of God being NOT Jehovah, don't bother. if they cant get that right that its unknown and not a major matter I don't bother. the YHWH is what it is. the vowels are from the combination of adonai with it. its not really known what the Name was. so I don't stick with it. when they do that they are a cult to me. im not swapping a cult for a cult. I came from a cult. the jw.

they don't know, funny they do tell you how to do that on chabad. how to read it and use it. its not some secret thing or iniation. shh were lying. its not. its out there but its all in the open. silly me. I do read that stuff.

often argued here and in the kaballah.
nephilum
gap theory.

 

[YosefHayim]

knowingly worships Saturn? I was into the occult and I didn't worship Saturn.

that is again to broad of a a brush. many will inadvertently admit it. if they didn't how else would the anti-masons have imagery of masonry worshipping satan?

the caballah is whacky but they don't worship that planet. just because its so on the internet doesn't mean it is. there is mis info on that. If I wanted to see If some anti-muslim person is right about the quran. I should take his word because he is a Christian? I shouldn't read it myself? that is kinda what im saying. I do read that for reasons. to see what they say and also to know. that aint a sin.

see my link about jews being called akin to islam, a group of pedophiles.

The links I post were both from Christian and Non-Christian sources. There's no bias there. To say "just cos its on the net, doesn't make it true" is nothing more than a fight or flight response to disregard sources. I really don't think you know much about the Occult. That's because that is how the occult is designed. You have to go deeper and deeper and deeper. Occult means "hidden knowledge". That is why a 3rd degree mason is a terrible source. How about high level masons? 33rd degree masons such as Pike, Hall, and Crowley which have all admitted (being themselves masons) that lodges are religious temples of the religion of masonry. They have doctrine which hates the grace and work of Christ. Just because you were in the occult now means you know everything about the occult, and that because you never heard of saturn means it's not true? I don't even know everything. But the facts speak for themselves.

 

[jasonc]

that guy is out there.
so modern church is wrong but the Essenes a jewish sect we don't know if they believed in the messiah gets it right and paul quotes (paul was a Pharisee and those and the Essenes didn't get along and there was none of them on the Sanhedrin.

http://www.factsbehindfaith.com/default.aspx?intContentID=13
that link endorses enoch! odd. most churches to include the rcc didn't. and the jews didn't either. the Masoretic text starts from the essenes orally. yet they didn't use that in jewry.

 

[YosefHayim]

that guy is out there.
so modern church is wrong but the Essenes a jewish sect we don't know if they believed in the messiah gets it right and paul quotes (paul was a Pharisee and those and the Essenes didn't get along and there was none of them on the Sanhedrin.

http://www.factsbehindfaith.com/default.aspx?intContentID=13
that link endorses enoch! odd. most churches to include the rcc didn't. and the jews didn't either. the Masoretic text starts from the essenes orally. yet they didn't use that in jewry.

The reason I posted those links were because they were occult links talking about Saturn. I don't hold their views. You said that the occult has nothing to do with saturn. Now that I post links showing it, it's because those in the occult are now wrong? Double standards?

 

[jasonc]

The links I post were both from Christian and Non-Christian sources. There's no bias there. To say "just cos its on the net, doesn't make it true" is nothing more than a fight or flight response to disregard sources. I really don't think you know much about the Occult. That's because that is how the occult is designed. You have to go deeper and deeper and deeper. Occult means "hidden knowledge". That is why a 3rd degree mason is a terrible source. How about high level masons? 33rd degree masons such as Pike, Hall, and Crowley which have all admitted (being themselves masons) that lodges are religious temples of the religion of masonry. They have doctrine which hates the grace and work of Christ. Just because you were in the occult now means you know everything about the occult, and that because you never heard of saturn means it's not true? I don't even know everything. But the facts speak for themselves.

occult means hidden knowledge. if that is the case then why with masonry can just walk up and take a pic? its that easy. I have a route that starts a masonic lodge. masonry only goes up to the mastor mason level. the York rite and Scottish rite aren't masons , they require one to be a mason to do them rites but I can if I so choose to be a mason not go there. that is what masonry says.

I went to a seminar on this and they had some facts wrong about the elks. I asked an elk said something in err. and looked it up and they were right. they don't do that anymore.

if you were to tell me that I was wrong about jw and said something stupid like oh jw are gay rights supporters , I would say something.i used to be a jw. they do change. once they didn't allow blood donation , and now they do, same with college and also life savings. they changed that.i had former jw after me tell me that. I guess I shouldn't take their word for that.even though I did find that out from the watchtower and tract society

 

[jasonc]

The reason I posted those links were because they were occult links talking about Saturn. I don't hold their views. You said that the occult has nothing to do with saturn. Now that I post links showing it, it's because those in the occult are now wrong? Double standards?

nope, you didn't make it clear that you said that you didn't hold that view. I said if one is going to use a person who says that is an occult. and then say well I don't agree with them, say it first one link said the YHWH is oculltic! that is found long before the Lord came. its old. its in the oldest known translation and the dead sea scrolls aren't also the oldest and earliest.

 

[YosefHayim]

occult means hidden knowledge. if that is the case then why with masonry can just walk up and take a pic? its that easy. I have a route that starts a masonic lodge. masonry only goes up to the mastor mason level. the York rite and Scottish rite aren't masons , they require one to be a mason to do them rites but I can if I so choose to be a mason not go there. that is what masonry says.

I went to a seminar on this and they had some facts wrong about the elks. I asked an elk said something in err. and looked it up and they were right. they don't do that anymore.

if you were to tell me that I was wrong about jw and said something stupid like oh jw are gay rights supporters , I would say something.i used to be a jw. they do change. once they didn't allow blood donation , and now they do, same with college and also life savings. they changed that.i had former jw after me tell me that. I guess I shouldn't take their word for that.even though I did find that out from the watchtower and tract society

The York, and Scottish rite aren't masons? Well if that's not nonsense, I don't know what is. And yes, occult means hidden knowledge. I'm sorry that's hard to grasp.

Well I'm done being taken out of context with nonsensical claims. I've posted information, and hopefully someone else's eyes will be opened to the spiritual battle around us. Like I said, this conversation is not worth it. I don't know why I bothered to respond to furthering silliness.

God's word points out Saturn, many people that have come out of the occult and research the occult have pointed out saturn, and once one learns it will become easy to see.

I walked past a presbyterian church in DC. And just like the occult koral castle, there was a sun, saturn, and moon depicted in the window. Lo and behold they pridefully hung a gay flag. If you can't see this stuff, you're blind.

 

[jasonc]

The York, and Scottish rite aren't masons? Well if that's not nonsense, I don't know what is. And yes, occult means hidden knowledge. I'm sorry that's hard to grasp.

Well I'm done being taken out of context with nonsensical claims. I've posted information, and hopefully someone else's eyes will be opened to the spiritual battle around us. Like I said, this conversation is not worth it. I don't know why I bothered to respond to furthering silliness.

God's word points out Saturn, many people that have come out of the occult and research the occult have pointed out saturn, and once one learns it will become easy to see.

I walked past a presbyterian church in DC. And just like the occult koral castle, there was a sun, saturn, and moon depicted in the window. Lo and behold they pridefully hung a gay flag. If you can't see this stuff, you're blind.

they aren't. you do know that. they don't have a first degree in there. he cant go there.

one has to be a master mason first. there is no York temple or Scottish rite here in my town.they are here but they aint meeting openly.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/York_Rite
always not quite masonry. one can be a mason but not a York rite holder. that is what mike s and said and my friend.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_Rite

note it says in the us one has to be a master mason first. changed in 2000. they aren't that unified. france does it differently. and Australia.
.

 

[Edward]

I wish I could find it, but I have a video somewhere which explains how the artist of this painting is wrapped up in new age stuff. I think it had to do with indigo children or something like that. I forget.

found it

Wow brother, i thought this was a light hearted thread, what did Jesus look like? But I guess it's turned into bash Christians instead. Why do you want to beat up on the little girl for? Does the picture 'Prince of Peace' misquote the gospel or something, spout lies? What are you thinking brother?

Maybe Akiane or her family is backslidden now? Like no one has ever backslid before eh? Or went a different direction in their lives after having met the Lord? Yep, it's been proven...Akiane and her family are real humans, unperfect and with bad judgment. So what's your point? That we shouldn't look at the picture because Akiane isn't perfect?

 

[Willie T]

What kind of a person quotes a book, while saying they have never even read it? That was enough for me to just shut off the video. It made me feel that anything else she might have to say could just be hear/say, too.

 

[YosefHayim]

Wow brother, i thought this was a light hearted thread, what did Jesus look like? But I guess it's turned into bash Christians instead. Why do you want to beat up on the little girl for? Does the picture 'Prince of Peace' misquote the gospel or something, spout lies? What are you thinking brother?

Maybe Akiane or her family is backslidden now? Like no one has ever backslid before eh? Or went a different direction in their lives after having met the Lord? Yep, it's been proven...Akiane and her family are real humans, unperfect and with bad judgment. So what's your point? That we shouldn't look at the picture because Akiane isn't perfect?

If shes wrapped up in new age, how do we know that picture is genuinely Jesus? That if is she's messing with spiritual things.

 

[Willie T]

If shes wrapped up in new age, how do we know that picture is genuinely Jesus? That if is she's messing with spiritual things.

Honestly! What in the world is with you?!?!?!

 

[Gary]

If shes wrapped up in new age, how do we know that picture is genuinely Jesus? That if is she's messing with spiritual things.

It's not. There's no such thing as a "genuine" picture of Jesus.

 

[Edward]

If shes wrapped up in new age, how do we know that picture is genuinely Jesus? That if is she's messing with spiritual things.

Colton said it was Jesus too. Do they have a conspiracy going together?

 

[KevinK]

The first thing I said the first time I saw Akiane's most famous painting of Jesus was, "That's what He really looks like!". I have no idea why I said that (I did not see Jesus when I had my own OOB experience).