What do Calvinists really believe?

[mlqurgw]

Thats a shame..

Perhaps it is but I would still like for you to explain it.

 

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THIS is what CalvInists 'really' believe in 'their heart' and from their own lips:

"If anyone believes that lie, that Christ died for everyones sins in the world without exception, you have been deceived, and unless God gives you repentance, you are on your way to hell, forever !"

 

[savedbygrace57]

Perhaps it is but I would still like for you to explain it.

Its simple, Preaching Christ, and who He died for, and what His death accomplished are one and the same message. You cannot effectively Preach Christ without uplifting His Glorious Accomplishments for His Chosen.

You said:

Now I want you to understand that effectual atonement and electing love are not the focus of my messages Christ is.

That statement does not make sense to me. Now do you understand ? If not, thats all the explaining i am going to do.

 

[mondar]

In thinking more about this thread, and what defines the term "Calvinism." It is hard to narrow "Calvinism" down to one short simple statement. Anytime this is done, there is much that is missed. The closest one can come to defining "Calvinism" would be the words "penal/substutitionary atonement." While many non-Calvinist views borrow from Calvinist theology, it leads to internal inconsistencies within their one systematic theology.

 

[mlqurgw]

Its simple, Preaching Christ, and who He died for, and what His death accomplished are one and the same message. You cannot effectively Preach Christ without uplifting His Glorious Accomplishments for His Chosen.

I wholeheartledy agree.

You said:



That statement does not make sense to me. Now do you understand ? If not, thats all the explaining i am going to do.

Apparently you have never been around folks who preach the doctrines as though they are the Gospel without ever preaching Christ. The doctrines are the focus for them not Christ. You hear a great deal of the doctrines but very little of Christ. Christ is what makes the doctrines beautiful not the other way around. One can rejoice in the doctrines and never know Christ. That is why I said before that I have known many dead Calvinists. All that they have are the doctrines.

 

[savedbygrace57]

mlq:

I wholeheartledy agree.

It does not sound like it, since you made the distinction..

 

[mlqurgw]

mlq:



It does not sound like it, since you made the distinction..

Fine. Is there anyone with whom you can get along?

 

[savedbygrace57]

Fine. Is there anyone with whom you can get along?

The True Jesus Christ and His Truth..

 

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The True Jesus Christ and His Truth..

You aren't the first guy I've met who believes they are the only one saved. Many fall into that dark pit where disagreement over a SINGLE WORD will bring eternal death or torture in fire forever from within such hearts.

Such will be the fate at the summation of EVIL for all given to such. They will be A CHURCH OF one,

...themself and their IMAGINARY Jesus.