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What do Muslims think about Jesus?

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Muhsen

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What do Muslims think about Jesus?


Muslims love and respect Jesus. They consider him one of the greatest of God's prophets and messengers to humankind. A Muslim never refers to him simply as "Jesus," but always adds the phrase "may the peace and blessing of God be upon him." The Qur'an confirms his virgin birth, and a special chapter of the Qur'an is entitled "Mary." The Qur'an describes the Annunciation as follows:

"The Angels said, 'O Mary! God has chosen you, and purified you, and chosen you above all the women of all nations…'

'O Mary, God gives you good news of a word from Him, whose name is the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, honored in this world and in the Hereafter, and one of those brought near to God. He shall speak to the people in infancy and in old age, and shall be of the righteous.'

She said: ' O my Lord! How shall I have a son when no man has touched me?' He said: 'Even so; God creates what he wills. When He decrees a thing, he says to it, "Be!" and it is."' (Qur'an 3:42, 45-7)

Just as God created Adam without a mother or a father, He caused Jesus to be conceived without a father:

"Truly the example of Jesus in relation to God is as the example of Adam. He created him from dust and then said to him, "Be!" and he was." (Qur'an 3:59)

During his prophetic mission, Jesus performed many miracles. The Qur'an tells us that he said: "I have come to you with a sign from your Lord: I make for you out of clay, as it were, a figure of a bird, and breathe into it and it becomes a bird by God's leave. And I heal the blind, and the lepers, and I raise the dead by God's leave." (Qur'an 3:49)

Jesus, like Muhammad, came to confirm and renew the basic doctrine of the belief in One God brought by earlier prophets. In the Qur'an, Jesus is reported as saying that he came: "To attest the Torah that was before me. And to make lawful to you part of what was forbidden to you; I have come to you with a sign from your Lord; so be conscious of God and obey me." (Qur'an 3:50)

The Prophet Muhammad said: "Whoever believes that there is no deity except God, alone without partner, that Muhammad is his messenger, that Jesus is the servant and messenger of God; His word which he bestowed on Mary and a spirit proceeding from Him, and that Paradise and Hell are true, shall be received by God into Heaven."
 
Do Muslims follow Jesus' teachings?

IF Muslims love and respect Jesus, why don't they follow His teachings?

In particular:

  • (1) There is no "Golden Rule" in Islam.... "Therefore, whatever you want men to do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets." (Matthew 7:12 NKJV)

    (2) Why don't they follow his teaching to "love your enemies"?
These are 2 well known sayings from Jesus. Did God forget them?

Muhammad taught the totally opposite message to these two commandments from Jesus.

:) :)
 
Gary_Bee said:
Do Muslims follow Jesus' teachings?

IF Muslims love and respect Jesus, why don't they follow His teachings?

In particular:

  • (1) There is no "Golden Rule" in Islam.... "Therefore, whatever you want men to do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets." (Matthew 7:12 NKJV)

    (2) Why don't they follow his teaching to "love your enemies"?
These are 2 well known sayings from Jesus. Did God forget them?

Muhammad taught the totally opposite message to these two commandments from Jesus.

:) :)
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Muslims follow the true teachings and true message of prophet Jesus (peace be upon him), which is agreeing with message of prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him).
That true message is the monotheism to worship God without partner no son no partner
 
What did Jesus teach about relationships with neighbors and enemies?

You seemed to have missed the main thrust of my questions. Let us leave the question of God out of this discussion for a moment. I am talking about a man's relationship with his fellow-man.

So I ask again......

  • (1) Why is there is no "Golden Rule" in Islam? "Therefore, whatever you want men to do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets." (Matthew 7:12 NKJV)

    (2) Why don't Muslims follow Jesus' teaching to "love your enemies"? (Matthew 5:43-47)

These are 2 well known sayings from Jesus. Did God forget them?

Muhammad taught the totally opposite message to these two commandments from Jesus. Can you explain that?
:) :) :)
 
Muhsen said:
Muslims follow the true teachings and true message of prophet Jesus (peace be upon him), which is agreeing with message of prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him).
That true message is the monotheism to worship God without partner no son no partner
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My friend, welcome.

If Jesus is embraced as a messenger of God by Muhammad, than why does Muhammad reject the messages that Jesus brought?

I welcome your positions and you, as well as I appreciate the kindness with which you've currently shown within your postings, according to your beliefs.
 
Sara929 said:
Muhsen said:
Muslims follow the true teachings and true message of prophet Jesus (peace be upon him), which is agreeing with message of prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him).
That true message is the monotheism to worship God without partner no son no partner
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My friend, welcome.

If Jesus is embraced as a messenger of God by Muhammad, than why does Muhammad reject the messages that Jesus brought?

I welcome your positions and you, as well as I appreciate the kindness with which you've currently shown within your postings, according to your beliefs.
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You are welcome sister,

Muhammad does not reject the messages that Jesus brought?
Muhammad confirm his message, but his message wasn't never to worship him as God or Son of God but to follow him as prophet, and to worship God without partner
 
Gary_Bee said:


Muhammad taught the totally opposite message to these two commandments from Jesus.
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Everybody know how Islam is dealing with others. kindly and magnanimity
 
How Islam treats others....

Gary:

(1) Why is there is no "Golden Rule" in Islam? "Therefore, whatever you want men to do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets." (Matthew 7:12 NKJV)

(2) Why don't Muslims follow Jesus' teaching to "love your enemies"? (Matthew 5:43-47)

Muhammad taught the totally opposite message to these two commandments from Jesus.

Muhsen said:
Everybody know how Islam is dealing with others. Kindly and magnanimity
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Gary: Actually, we are getting to know, more and more, that Islam does not treat others kindly. You have given no Quran surah/verses so I will help you.

Sura 5:54 "O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors. They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust."

Sura 5:36-38 "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Apostle, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land. That is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the hereafter, except for those who repent before they fall into your power. In that case, know that Allah is oft-forgiving, most merciful. O ye who believe! Do your duty to Allah. Seek the means of approach unto Him, and strive with might and main in His cause, that ye may prosper."

Sura 9:123 "O ye who believe! Fight the unbelievers who gird you about, and let them find firmness in you, and know that Allah is with those who fear Him."

Sura 9:111 "Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods. For theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise). They fight in His cause, and slay and are slain."

Sura 9:52,73 "Say, ‘Can you expect for us (any fate) other than one of two glorious things - (martyrdom or victory)? But we can expect for you either that Allah will send His punishment from Himself, or by our hands. So wait (expectant). We too will wait with you.’ ... O Prophet! Strive [Jihad] hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites, and be firm against them. Their abode is hell - an evil refuge indeed."

Sura 9:38,39,41 "O ye who believe! What is the matter with you, that when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the hereafter. Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place ... Go ye forth, (whether equipped) lightly or heavily, and strive [Jihad] and struggle with your goods and your persons, in the cause of Allah. That is best for you, if ye (but) knew."

Sura 9:29-31 "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the last day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Apostle, nor acknowledge the religion of truth, (even if they are) of the people of the Book, until they pay the jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. The Jews call Uzair [Ezra] a son of God, and the Christians call Christ the Son of God ... Allah's curse be on them; how they are deluded away from the truth! They take their priests and their anchorites to be their lords in derogation of Allah, and (they take as their Lord) Christ the son of Mary. Yet they are commanded to worship but One God ..."

Do you call that "kind"?
 
(2) Why don't they follow his teaching to "love your enemies"?

That Teaching was meant for a specific people, for a specific time period. The Jews were a hardened nation and had forgotten the meaning of mercy and forgiveness. Thats why this message was brought, for the Jews. Islam was brought to the whole of mankind, and for all periods. However the overall message of Jesus and Islam is the same, to worship no one but God, to associate no partners with him, to pray, to fast, to give charity. Islam confirmed what Jesus had brought, however we believe that the original Gospel of Jesus, the one that he himself preached, exists only in fragments in the Gospels and The New Testament. The 'Injil' that was revealed to him by God, and the one that he preached does not exist anymore.
 
Golden Rule in Christianity but not in Islam

Thanks Qasim.

You still have not explained why there is no "Golden Rule" in Islam. "Therefore, whatever you want men to do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets." (Matthew 7:12 NKJV)

What happened to this commandment?

By the way, do you agree with this commandment? Please explain.

:)
 
"Love you enemies" in Christianity but not in Islam

Gary: Why don't Muslims follow Jesus' teaching to "love your enemies"?
(Matthew 5:43-47)

Qasim: That Teaching was meant for a specific people, for a specific time period. The Jews were a hardened nation and had forgotten the meaning of mercy and forgiveness. Thats why this message was brought, for the Jews. Islam was brought to the whole of mankind, and for all periods. However the overall message of Jesus and Islam is the same, to worship no one but God, to associate no partners with him, to pray, to fast, to give charity. Islam confirmed what Jesus had brought, however we believe that the original Gospel of Jesus, the one that he himself preached, exists only in fragments in the Gospels and The New Testament. The 'Injil' that was revealed to him by God, and the one that he preached does not exist anymore.

Gary: So please explain further. Jesus brought a message of "love your enemies". Has that since fallen away? Who says so? When did it fall away? Do you not think that "love your enemies" is a much higher standard of ethics than "hate your enemies" --- the message that Muhammad brought? Or do you think "hate your enemies" is a better moral standard?

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Gary: So please explain further. Jesus brought a message of "love your enemies". Has that since fallen away? Who says so? When did it fall away? Do you not think that "love your enemies" is a much higher standard of ethics than "hate your enemies" --- the message that Muhammad brought? Or do you think "hate your enemies" is a better moral standard?



Qasim: Muhammed did not teach us to hate our enemies. He taught us to strive hard against those those who persecute you. By the way, by Enemy we meen a person who physically tries to hurt and persecute, you and wants to make war on you, or to plot to hurt you. This is the classification of an enemy for a Muslim. Its only natural that you strive hard against those who try to stop you from practising your religion, or try to kick you out of thier land.
 
hmm Faithfreedom.org, been to it, read it, but then found faithfreedom.com which corrected all the misunderstandings from it.
 
http://WWW.FAITHFREEDOM.ORG

Qasim: hmm http://www.Faithfreedom.org been to it, read it, but then found faithfreedom.com which corrected all the misunderstandings from it.

Gary: Oh really?!?... LOL.. then why not claim your $50,000!!??

A CHALLENGE

http://www.faithfreedom.org/challenge.htm

I receive many mails from angry Muslims who ask me to remove this site. If you disagree with this site and want me to remove it, I invite you to disprove my accusations against Muhammad and Islam. If you can show that what I say is unfounded I promise to remove this site not before confessing that I was wrong and Islam is a true religion.

I am not wealthy. But I have a house and some equity in it. Since January 2005 I promised to give

:bday: $50,000 U.S. dollars :bday:

to anyone who can prove Islam is a true religion in an objective (not subjective) way and disprove my charges against Muhammad and the Quran. This is to thank you for showing me the right way. Hey, what is $50.000 dollars compared to eternity?

The challenge is:

Disprove my accusations against Muhammad and Islam.

I accused Muhammad of being:

a rapist
a pedophile (had sex with a child)
an assassin
a mass murderer
a lecher
a misogynist
a narcissist
a looter
a mentally deranged (was paranoid, heard voices, hallucinated of seeing jinns, Satan and angels, used to think he had sex with his wives when he did not, suffered from depression and had suicidal tendencies).

Ali Sina

http://www.faithfreedom.org/challenge.htm

:wink:
 
Golden Rule in Christianity but not in Islam

Qasim, you still have not explained why there is no "Golden Rule" in Islam. "Therefore, whatever you want men to do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets." (Matthew 7:12 NKJV)

What happened to this commandment from Jesus?

By the way, do you agree with this commandment? Please explain.

:)
 
The closest Golden Rule saying I have heard of in Islam is

"None of you [truly] believes until he wishes for his brother what he wishes for himself." Number 13 of Imam "Al-Nawawi's Forty Hadiths."

Quath
 
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Booty and The Love of Islam
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In order for the Religion of Peace to show the proper love for their enemies, regulations on booty and its distribution had to be promulgated.

30.3a. The fifth –
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When the Muslims gain booty by having fought and won it, their leader takes one fifth and divides the remaining four-fifths between those doing the fighting. It is better for this dividing up to take place where the battle was fought.

30.3b Which booty is divided –
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Only booty that has been fought for using horses and camels or taken after combat is to be divided up in this way.

30.3c Use of food or fodder
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– If part of the spoils consist of food or fodder, there is no harm in any who need it taking some before the division takes place.

30.4a Those actively involved in jihad –
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A share of the booty is only given to those who take part in the fighting or who are prevented from doing so by being occupied with the jihad in some other way.

30.4b If someone is ill
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– Anyone who falls sick is given a share as is any horse that falls sick.

30.4c The share of the horse –
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A horse gets two shares

30.4d The share of the rider – and a rider gets one share
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30.4e Slaves, women and children –
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Slaves do not get a share nor do women nor do children, unless the children are really able to fight, have been given permission by the Imam, and do actually participate in the fighting in which they are given a share.

30.4f Servants – A hired servant is not given a share unless he actually fights.
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Kind Regards,
Farside
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Your (Muslim) brother...

Good point Quath.... however, there are two additional facts that you should consider. Firstly, it is in the Hadith (collected some 150 years AFTER the Quran)

"No one of you is a believer until he desires for his brother that which he desires for himself."

Secondly, we know that Islam discriminates against those who are NOT "your brother". The Hadith above applies ONLY to "your brother" i.e. your fellow-Muslim.

The one you quoted is from An-Nawawi's Forty Hadiths. This is the book of the Islamic scholar Yahia bin Sharaful-Deen An-Nawawi (1233-1277). The book is now known as "An-Nawawi's Forty Hadiths". This is a popular small book in which the author gathered forty two of the sayings of prophet Muhammed.
--CLICK HERE --

I think that Christians probably prompted this Hadith using the same challenge I used.

It is also recorded in Bukhari (probably the most important Hadith collector there was).
--CLICK HERE --

Bukhari: Volume 1, Book 2, Number 12:
Narrated Anas:
The Prophet said, "None of you will have faith till he wishes for his (Muslim) brother what he likes for himself."

:-?
 
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