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Bible Study What do you think the Bible has to say about pride?

Kathi said:
Many Christians and nonChristians suffer with pride.
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Hi Kathi, yes they do. Because I was a pastor for so many years, I got to fellowship with many other preachers. I'm surprised that anyone outside the clergy has pride because we have it all.:rofl2Pride is a terrible thing, Scripture says it goes before a fall. It is worse than witchcraft as well. Pride always wants the attention. Always want the credit for a job well done, but worse of all, it is a heart issue. Pride acts like an idol, it steals from God. Pride has brought down many good men, and Satan uses it as his #1 tool for discrediting folk who therwise would have gone on and been a great tool for God.

Sometimes we see pride in people when it's really their confidence and faith in God to accomplish something.

Because I was a successful business man when I got saved, I've had to battle pride my entire life. The success that came to the churches that I was the pastor was a hard thing to deal with because of how people thanked me and other preachers applauded me.
 
Pride comes from a weak self esteem. A healthy self esteem doesn't mind being humble. But a weak one either leads to self-loathing, pain and depression; or it becomes bloated in order to protect itself ad leads to narcissistic pride. In both cases the person is preoccuppied with their success, their standing, their power, their rank, etc. So while healthy egos are naturally humble and kind, the broken ones appear self-centered and full of pride.

So, contrary to what many would think, in order to get rid of pride people's egos must be strengthened in order to bring them to the point that they can actually crucify their selves and surrender to God.

Sorry if that's not a biblical answer.
 
Claudya said:
Pride comes from a weak self esteem. A healthy self esteem doesn't mind being humble. But a weak one either leads to self-loathing, pain and depression; or it becomes bloated in order to protect itself ad leads to narcissistic pride. In both cases the person is preoccuppied with their success, their standing, their power, their rank, etc. So while healthy egos are naturally humble and kind, the broken ones appear self-centered and full of pride.

So, contrary to what many would think, in order to get rid of pride people's egos must be strengthened in order to bring them to the point that they can actually crucify their selves and surrender to God.

Sorry if that's not a biblical answer.
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Claudya said:
Pride comes from a weak self esteem. A healthy self esteem doesn't mind being humble. But a weak one either leads to self-loathing, pain and depression; or it becomes bloated in order to protect itself ad leads to narcissistic pride. In both cases the person is preoccuppied with their success, their standing, their power, their rank, etc. So while healthy egos are naturally humble and kind, the broken ones appear self-centered and full of pride.

So, contrary to what many would think, in order to get rid of pride people's egos must be strengthened in order to bring them to the point that they can actually crucify their selves and surrender to God.

Sorry if that's not a biblical answer.
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Actually, I don't think your answer is against anything in the scriptures. As a matter of fact you point out one of the methods that the Apostles used to edify (lift up) the members in the Church. They said things like, "But as for you...".
They'd list the sin in world and then say, we see better things in you. Kinda' paraphrased.
 
Matthew 16:24
Then Jesus told his disciples, “If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me."
If I look at Jesus Christ, how He lived, and then look at myself, by comparison. How I live...

Self-Pride pretty much goes out the window.
 
Everyone who is proud in heart is an abomination to the LORD; Assuredly, he will not be unpunished. Proverbs 16:5 NASB

The #1 killer in the world for preventable deaths in a hospital is the pride of doctors, nurses, and firefighters. The scripture says, "Be of sober spirit, be on the alert. Your adversary, the devil, prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour" - 1 Peter 5:8 NASB. The enemy will apply pressure to the flesh of doctors, nurses, and firefighters to distract them while at the same time causing them to become complacent. The enemy also knows they will never give God the glory...their pride tells them that medical science along with their skills should get the credit. Any person who does not seek the Kingdom of God and His righteousness FIRST, has the sin of pride and idolatry.

God will never tempt anyone, but He will send the enemy to afflict you to get your attention. The scripture teaches us, "when the hedge is up the enemy can't strike" - Ecclesiastes 10:8. Has your security been breeched because of pride? The enemy on his own can only attack three ways; the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eye, and the pride of life.
 
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On this topic I like to focus on the Lord Jesus, Who, with no sin of His own, humbled Himself and became obedient unto death, even the death of the Cross (Philippians 2) and Who is now exalted and glorified.

Blessings.
 
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sadly we can become proud of our humbleness... We fail so often, Praise the Lord for His Mercy and Grace
 
On a subject like this, especially, it's healthy to keep 'looking unto Jesus' (Hebrews 12).

Blessings.
 
Pride seperates us from each other. If you need to guard your fragile ego you have no chance but to see others as competitors and rivals. Everyone else is an opponent who could possibly harm and humiliate (in a negative way). But real confident humble people don't need to guard their self-esteem, because they are confident in themselves. So they can look at others as potential friends, mentors or companions. People like that can love and empower others instead of fight each other.

Okay we all agree that pride is baaaaaaad.
But how do we get rid of it? That's the interesting question. Like I said earlier it's often necessary to actually strengthen a person's self.esteem and confidence in order to get them into the position where they can be humble and self-less. Some lucky people have grown up as truly confident people, they never worried about their ego and have no pride issues or only minor ones in isolated areas. I know a few (not many, really) people who are like that and they are really pleasant uncomplicated and fun fellows who emanate the love of God. They usually have more stable relationships of any kind and are more successfull in most areas of life. But the vast majority of humans get hurt and broken at some point and their ego never recovers. They become preidefull because they feel the need to protect their hearts from humiliation. Since those people either get avoidant and withdrawn, or aggressive, or nercissistic they will often remain unsuccessfull when it comes to bonding with people,and thus find their fears confirmed and "protect".themselves even more. They become pridefull and self-oriented.
Now what can those people do to reverse that negative circle? Or is it impossible to reverse it and we have to learn to live with that sense of pride?
 
Claudya said:
Pride seperates us from each other. If you need to guard your fragile ego you have no chance but to see others as competitors and rivals. Everyone else is an opponent who could possibly harm and humiliate (in a negative way). But real confident humble people don't need to guard their self-esteem, because they are confident in themselves. So they can look at others as potential friends, mentors or companions. People like that can love and empower others instead of fight each other.

Okay we all agree that pride is baaaaaaad.
But how do we get rid of it? That's the interesting question. Like I said earlier it's often necessary to actually strengthen a person's self.esteem and confidence in order to get them into the position where they can be humble and self-less. Some lucky people have grown up as truly confident people, they never worried about their ego and have no pride issues or only minor ones in isolated areas. I know a few (not many, really) people who are like that and they are really pleasant uncomplicated and fun fellows who emanate the love of God. They usually have more stable relationships of any kind and are more successfull in most areas of life. But the vast majority of humans get hurt and broken at some point and their ego never recovers. They become preidefull because they feel the need to protect their hearts from humiliation. Since those people either get avoidant and withdrawn, or aggressive, or nercissistic they will often remain unsuccessfull when it comes to bonding with people,and thus find their fears confirmed and "protect".themselves even more. They become pridefull and self-oriented.
Now what can those people do to reverse that negative circle? Or is it impossible to reverse it and we have to learn to live with that sense of pride?
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Your recent posts have been very informative and down to earth. I'm reminded of what an old preacher told young preachers in a pastor's conference he said "Keep the cooky jar down where the kids can get them" Boy is that true! Claudya, you're the greatest! your posts of late have been very helpful. You have a good handle on issues of the mind. You have been a good student of psychology. :dancing
 
Cant really add too much to this one. Always seems im doing damage control for this in my house. The young impressionables have to be steered away instantly so nothing takes root.

National pride, gender pride, sexual orientation pride, ethnic pride...just to name a few. Sources are usually directly government or government sponsored media and they slyly propogate all of that junk. Sad, but sorta expected knowing the enemy they serve.

Mostly rant, /rant off lol
 
Thinking the english language may be a bit at fault in some ways.... .... Dad , Dad look i got an A in that class..... wipe that smile off your face son do not show pride... or make sure the cake you are baking falls better a fallen cake then pride. Attitude of our hearts often has more bearing the words used....
 
Chopper said:
Your recent posts have been very informative and down to earth. I'm reminded of what an old preacher told young preachers in a pastor's conference he said "Keep the cooky jar down where the kids can get them" Boy is that true! Claudya, you're the greatest! your posts of late have been very helpful. You have a good handle on issues of the mind. You have been a good student of psychology. :dancing
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I'd love to accept that compliment, but unfortunately my handle on mental issues fails when it comes to my own mind. And I have no clue how to get rid of the pride issue.
 
Claudya said:
I'd love to accept that compliment, but unfortunately my handle on mental issues fails when it comes to my own mind. And I have no clue how to get rid of the pride issue.
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That's funny that you should say that. I was just sitting here, when I saw that you had posted, I thought "I'll ask Claudya if she has read anywhere how to get rid of pride." Any idea's? I think I will investigate and see what I can come up with. Do you want to do the same thing if you have the time? We could team up and shake the psych world. :nod
 
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