I think that by definition the "culture" is always totally secular - it cannot be otherwise.I can see how the more secular or atheistic the culture becomes
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I think that by definition the "culture" is always totally secular - it cannot be otherwise.I can see how the more secular or atheistic the culture becomes
Christianity has done its fair share of evils, and killing even one in the name of Christ is too many, but to say "massive through history, and still is," seems to me to be a significant overstatement. Can you provide examples of this in relatively recent history and currently?
I don't know. Do you want the root, or the leaves? The substance, or what's for show ?
Still waiting.Anything that would support your very serious assertion.
God told us not to kill.Paul's does.
Rom 13:1 Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. . . .
Rom 13:4 For he is God's minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God's minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil.
The sword is a symbol of the magistrate's right to inflict capital punishment.
Gen 9:6 "Whoever sheds man's blood, By man his blood shall be shed; For in the image of God He made man.
This penalty of life for life is not to be left to natural law, but man himself, in such a manner and under such safeguards as the civil law in each country shall order, is to execute the Divine command.
Paul says this "governing authority" is God's minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil.
God is not a pacifist.
I am happy you wrote "so-called" Christianity.Realizing in the world so-called christianity has motivated more destruction, death, lies, and oppression than most other ideologies as an ideology.
Actually, "Torah" also means teaching, instruction or guideline, not "law" - as in laws drafted by lobbyists, passed by the congress and signed by the president.Yes.
King JamesGod told us not to kill.
Peter says it was the Holy Spirit:Who inspired Paul to write the letter to Titus that became scripture?
To other apostles Judas was one of them, a Christian as well.Oh, just the opposite! Christians killing others has been massive through history, and still is.
Peter says it was the Holy Spirit:
2Peter 1:21 for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.
Self defense is not a reason for killing someone.King James
Exo 20:13 Thou shalt not kill.
Just about every other version:
Exo 20:13 "You shall not murder.
Exo 21:12 "He who strikes a man so that he dies shall surely be put to death.
Who is supposed to put him to death? Paul tells us in Romans 13.
Yes, you as an individual citizen should not kill anybody except in self defense.
Exo 22:2 If the thief is found breaking in, and he is struck so that he dies, there shall be no guilt for his bloodshed.
For me personally, being 80 years old and living alone, I feel the same. If somebody wants to break into my house and kill me, I'm ready to go.Self defense is not a reason for killing someone.
If God wants you to live, He will interdict in your situation.
I will continue to depend on my abiding in Christ, for my protection.For me personally, being 80 years old and living alone, I feel the same. If somebody wants to break into my house and kill me, I'm ready to go.
But if you are a younger man with a wife and kids, it is your responsibility to protect them.
Exo_22:2 If the thief is found breaking in, and he is struck so that he dies, there shall be no guilt for his bloodshed.
I will paraphrase the above a little:
If the thief has broken in and has a gun and is threatening your wife and kids and he is struck or shot so that he dies, there shall be no guilt for his bloodshed.
I don’t dispute that people and organisations have done dreadful things in the name of Christianity, but get real, the death toll from politically motivated violence in the 20th century far exceeds what Christian organised violence has done in the 2k years it's existed.Realizing in the world so-called christianity has motivated more destruction, death, lies, and oppression than most other ideologies as an ideology.
Apparently you have not heard who was the one power on earth behind the violence, the wars, the world wars, the wars and conflicts today. The religious power is clearly , once revealed, seen in harmony with all Scripture and God's Plan and God's Purpose.I don’t dispute that people and organisations have done dreadful things in the name of Christianity, but get real, the death toll from politically motivated violence in the 20th century far exceeds what Christian organised violence has done in the 2k years it's existed.
World wars 1& 2, the brutal fighting and political motivate acts in Russia, China, alliance and north Korea,
The Korean, and Vietnam wars.
Equally the encyclopedia of wars demonstrates that most wars have a political and economic cause, where religion has caused wars it has not been Christianity.
Lastly Christianity does not teach or preach violence, in fact when Christian have acted against Christian morality.
I'd be interested to see what document you are talking about since the founding of the US predates both Communism and Fascism. Fascism being a creation of the 20th century and Communism the end of the 19th. The US was founded in the 18th.I once was shown, but have not been able to find it since (I didn't look very hard), that in our founding documents as a Christian nation, we identified our nation as one who will always be willing help those who want to be free from fascist dictators or communist rule.
Its more that the US was pretty isolationist until the great war. We were allies to France and our former empire of Britania, but what other countries did outside of trade deals was not to much of our concern. The US got involved in world war 2 mostly because Hitler and Japan were pressing into our allies and attacking our military bases in the Pacific.If you look at our history of war as a nation, Vietnam, Korea, even the two world wars, this seems to have always been the case. People will demonize the U.S. because that's what they do. Islamic terrorist are freedom fighters, and the U.S. is terrorists.
Columbus wasn't respected by the Catholic church and even in his day was seen as being overly brutal. He was interested in trade and people were in the way or a resource to be traded. I am pretty sure its all grouped together because for kids and young adults the key message was that Columbus lead to the European empires seeing the New World as a fertile land to expand to. The Puritans being one of the groups to establish settlements after leaving Holland. By the way the Puritans were not expelled from Holland, but originally took refuge in Holland because it was not under the rule of the Catholic church. The New world offered opportunity to escape Europe as a whole.We started this country fleeing the persecution of the Catholic church by way of kings, Queens, Popes etc. It always amazes me that the puritans are always bunched together with Columbus. The puritans came to America to escape what Columbus stood for.
This web site should have what you are looking for.I once was shown, but have not been able to find it since (I didn't look very hard
Actually they were fleeing the state Anglican Church of England.We started this country fleeing the persecution of the Catholic church by way of kings, Queens, Popes etc.
The power behind the political arrogance that causes is wars is the devil.Apparently you have not heard who was the one power on earth behind the violence, the wars, the world wars, the wars and conflicts today. The religious power is clearly , once revealed, seen in harmony with all Scripture and God's Plan and God's Purpose.
And and the power behind the devil is God who upholds all things by the Word of His power.The power behind the political arrogance that causes is wars is the devil.
God is sovereign, but he is not responsible for the devil's sins or for our sins.And and the power behind the devil is God who upholds all things by the Word of His power.
Actually they were fleeing the state Anglican Church of England.
Some in England insisted that the Anglican Church separate even further from Rome.
They wanted to "purify" it, resulting in them being called "Puritans."
Pilgrim Separatists fled to Holland, and then later to America in 1620.