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Christianity has done its fair share of evils, and killing even one in the name of Christ is too many, but to say "massive through history, and still is," seems to me to be a significant overstatement. Can you provide examples of this in relatively recent history and currently?
I don't know. Do you want the root, or the leaves? The substance, or what's for show ?
Anything that would support your very serious assertion.
Still waiting.
 
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Paul's does.

Rom 13:1 Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. . . .
Rom 13:4 For he is God's minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God's minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil.

The sword is a symbol of the magistrate's right to inflict capital punishment.

Gen 9:6 "Whoever sheds man's blood, By man his blood shall be shed; For in the image of God He made man.

This penalty of life for life is not to be left to natural law, but man himself, in such a manner and under such safeguards as the civil law in each country shall order, is to execute the Divine command.
Paul says this "governing authority" is God's minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil.

God is not a pacifist.
God told us not to kill.
I will obey Him.
 
Realizing in the world so-called christianity has motivated more destruction, death, lies, and oppression than most other ideologies as an ideology.
I am happy you wrote "so-called" Christianity.
Real Christianity turns the other cheek, and prays for its enemies.
 
God told us not to kill.
King James
Exo 20:13 Thou shalt not kill.

Just about every other version:
Exo 20:13 "You shall not murder.

Exo 21:12 "He who strikes a man so that he dies shall surely be put to death.
Who is supposed to put him to death? Paul tells us in Romans 13.

Yes, you as an individual citizen should not kill anybody except in self defense.

Exo 22:2 If the thief is found breaking in, and he is struck so that he dies, there shall be no guilt for his bloodshed.
 
Who inspired Paul to write the letter to Titus that became scripture?
Peter says it was the Holy Spirit:

2Peter 1:21 for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.
 
Oh, just the opposite! Christians killing others has been massive through history, and still is.
To other apostles Judas was one of them, a Christian as well.
Nothing could have been further from the truth, as for just a few pieces of silver he arranged the execution of Christ .
Point being you don't who is a Christian any more than the Apostles did.
 
Peter says it was the Holy Spirit:

2Peter 1:21 for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.

Amen.

Here is what Paul wrote -


But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His. Romans 8:9


Is the Spirit of God and the Spirit of Christ and the Holy Spirit one?
 
King James
Exo 20:13 Thou shalt not kill.

Just about every other version:
Exo 20:13 "You shall not murder.

Exo 21:12 "He who strikes a man so that he dies shall surely be put to death.
Who is supposed to put him to death? Paul tells us in Romans 13.

Yes, you as an individual citizen should not kill anybody except in self defense.

Exo 22:2 If the thief is found breaking in, and he is struck so that he dies, there shall be no guilt for his bloodshed.
Self defense is not a reason for killing someone.
If God wants you to live, He will interdict in your situation.
He did it for me, Thanks be to God !
Of course that is no reason not to run liken a scalded dog either.
 
Self defense is not a reason for killing someone.
If God wants you to live, He will interdict in your situation.
For me personally, being 80 years old and living alone, I feel the same. If somebody wants to break into my house and kill me, I'm ready to go.

But if you are a younger man with a wife and kids, it is your responsibility to protect them.
Exo_22:2 If the thief is found breaking in, and he is struck so that he dies, there shall be no guilt for his bloodshed.

I will paraphrase the above a little:
If the thief has broken in and has a gun and is threatening your wife and kids and he is struck or shot so that he dies, there shall be no guilt for his bloodshed.
 
For me personally, being 80 years old and living alone, I feel the same. If somebody wants to break into my house and kill me, I'm ready to go.

But if you are a younger man with a wife and kids, it is your responsibility to protect them.
Exo_22:2 If the thief is found breaking in, and he is struck so that he dies, there shall be no guilt for his bloodshed.

I will paraphrase the above a little:
If the thief has broken in and has a gun and is threatening your wife and kids and he is struck or shot so that he dies, there shall be no guilt for his bloodshed.
I will continue to depend on my abiding in Christ, for my protection.
Keep praying nobody accosts you, and know that He answers prayers of the faithful.
 
Realizing in the world so-called christianity has motivated more destruction, death, lies, and oppression than most other ideologies as an ideology.
I don’t dispute that people and organisations have done dreadful things in the name of Christianity, but get real, the death toll from politically motivated violence in the 20th century far exceeds what Christian organised violence has done in the 2k years it's existed.
World wars 1& 2, the brutal fighting and political motivate acts in Russia, China, alliance and north Korea,
The Korean, and Vietnam wars.
Equally the encyclopedia of wars demonstrates that most wars have a political and economic cause, where religion has caused wars it has not been Christianity.

Lastly Christianity does not teach or preach violence, in fact when Christian have acted against Christian morality.
 
I don’t dispute that people and organisations have done dreadful things in the name of Christianity, but get real, the death toll from politically motivated violence in the 20th century far exceeds what Christian organised violence has done in the 2k years it's existed.
World wars 1& 2, the brutal fighting and political motivate acts in Russia, China, alliance and north Korea,
The Korean, and Vietnam wars.
Equally the encyclopedia of wars demonstrates that most wars have a political and economic cause, where religion has caused wars it has not been Christianity.

Lastly Christianity does not teach or preach violence, in fact when Christian have acted against Christian morality.
Apparently you have not heard who was the one power on earth behind the violence, the wars, the world wars, the wars and conflicts today. The religious power is clearly , once revealed, seen in harmony with all Scripture and God's Plan and God's Purpose.
 
I once was shown, but have not been able to find it since (I didn't look very hard), that in our founding documents as a Christian nation, we identified our nation as one who will always be willing help those who want to be free from fascist dictators or communist rule.
I'd be interested to see what document you are talking about since the founding of the US predates both Communism and Fascism. Fascism being a creation of the 20th century and Communism the end of the 19th. The US was founded in the 18th.

The US also wasn't founded as a Christian nation and our earliest treaties stated as such. The US was founded as a Democratically elected Republic with the freedom to practice religion as one chooses. Even our Bill of rights states that congress won't endorse any specific religion and won't prevent anyone from joining any specific religion.

The US is more a challenge to Monarchy. We reject the rule of worldly kings. This makes sense since Monarchy was a very standard form of government at the time of the birth of the nation. Colonialism ran high and Europe was split amongst empires.


If you look at our history of war as a nation, Vietnam, Korea, even the two world wars, this seems to have always been the case. People will demonize the U.S. because that's what they do. Islamic terrorist are freedom fighters, and the U.S. is terrorists.
Its more that the US was pretty isolationist until the great war. We were allies to France and our former empire of Britania, but what other countries did outside of trade deals was not to much of our concern. The US got involved in world war 2 mostly because Hitler and Japan were pressing into our allies and attacking our military bases in the Pacific.

The cold war came about due to the competition between the newly economically dominant US and the rising power of the USSR trying to grab ground and make allies to establish dominance. The US and USSR both did horrible things to other countries that didn't do what either wanted. With both of our nations emerging as economic power houses it was a mess. The US went from being saviors and great back up in world war 2 to being a more espionage and interventionist power in the mid to late 20th century. This isn't saying we were bad, its just historical fact. Both the US and the USSR toppled nations, armed rebels, and squashed uprisings. Its not as simple as US good or bad, but complicated politics of the time.

We started this country fleeing the persecution of the Catholic church by way of kings, Queens, Popes etc. It always amazes me that the puritans are always bunched together with Columbus. The puritans came to America to escape what Columbus stood for.
Columbus wasn't respected by the Catholic church and even in his day was seen as being overly brutal. He was interested in trade and people were in the way or a resource to be traded. I am pretty sure its all grouped together because for kids and young adults the key message was that Columbus lead to the European empires seeing the New World as a fertile land to expand to. The Puritans being one of the groups to establish settlements after leaving Holland. By the way the Puritans were not expelled from Holland, but originally took refuge in Holland because it was not under the rule of the Catholic church. The New world offered opportunity to escape Europe as a whole.
 
I once was shown, but have not been able to find it since (I didn't look very hard
This web site should have what you are looking for.

We started this country fleeing the persecution of the Catholic church by way of kings, Queens, Popes etc.
Actually they were fleeing the state Anglican Church of England.
Some in England insisted that the Anglican Church separate even further from Rome.
They wanted to "purify" it, resulting in them being called "Puritans."
Pilgrim Separatists fled to Holland, and then later to America in 1620.
 
The one power behind the
Apparently you have not heard who was the one power on earth behind the violence, the wars, the world wars, the wars and conflicts today. The religious power is clearly , once revealed, seen in harmony with all Scripture and God's Plan and God's Purpose.
The power behind the political arrogance that causes is wars is the devil.
 
Actually they were fleeing the state Anglican Church of England.
Some in England insisted that the Anglican Church separate even further from Rome.
They wanted to "purify" it, resulting in them being called "Puritans."
Pilgrim Separatists fled to Holland, and then later to America in 1620.

Here it is called "residues of Roman Catholicism".

"Puritans were English Protestants who wished to reform and purify the Church of England of what they considered to be unacceptable residues of Roman Catholicism. In the 1620s leaders of the English state and church grew increasingly unsympathetic to Puritan demands. They insisted that the Puritans conform to religious practices that they abhorred, removing their ministers from office and threatening them with "extirpation from the earth" if they did not fall in line. Zealous Puritan laymen received savage punishments. For example, in 1630 a man was sentenced to life imprisonment, had his property confiscated, his nose slit, an ear cut off, and his forehead branded "S.S." (sower of sedition).

Beginning in 1630 as many as 20,000 Puritans emigrated to America from England to gain the liberty to worship God as they chose. Most settled in New England, but some went as far as the West Indies. Theologically, the Puritans were "non-separating Congregationalists." Unlike the Pilgrims, who came to Massachusetts in 1620, the Puritans believed that the Church of England was a true church, though in need of major reforms. Every New England Congregational church was considered an independent entity, beholden to no hierarchy. The membership was composed, at least initially, of men and women who had undergone a conversion experience and could prove it to other members. Puritan leaders hoped (futilely, as it turned out) that, once their experiment was successful, England would imitate it by instituting a church order modeled after the New England Way."