What is a Christian fundamentalist?

[Free]

I don't know. Do you want the root, or the leaves? The substance, or what's for show ?

Anything that would support your very serious assertion.

 

[JLB]

If you've heard the term today, it would no doubt be attached to the idea of extremists, or even far right wing, or better yet, fascism.

What does history show us it really means? Any takers?

Dave

Labels are used to divide Christians into categories.


Labels = Division.


But Jesus knew their thoughts, and said to them: “Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation, and every city or house divided against itself will not stand.
Matthew 12:25

 

[Whatever]

Labels = Division.

1Co 11:19 For there must also be factions among you, that those who are approved may be recognized among you.

The word "factions" is hairesis - G139
properly a choice, that is, (specifically) a party or (abstractly) disunion, sect.

But that is not just in Christianity. Israel had their Pharisee's, Sadducees and I think Essenes that aren't mentioned in the Bible but I think were the ones who hid the Dead Sea Scrolls.

 

[jasonc]

So a Spanish church in Mexico ,should be able to openly understand an American who has never spoken ,been to Mexico and Mexican culture of it's Mayan ,Aztecan and history .

Languages also cause division .

My church has its doctrines in both Korean and English and the Presbytery In south Carolina holds that in both languages as it's translated .

Korean culture is a bit unique.

I can grasp Spanish but I am not fluent . Try selling parts to a person who doesn't speak English and hasn't an idea of what needs .

 

[JLB]

1Co 11:19 For there must also be factions among you, that those who are approved may be recognized among you.

The word "factions" is hairesis - G139
properly a choice, that is, (specifically) a party or (abstractly) disunion, sect.

But that is not just in Christianity. Israel had their Pharisee's, Sadducees and I think Essenes that aren't mentioned in the Bible but I think were the ones who hid the Dead Sea Scrolls.

God does not want the body of Christ divided.


Now I plead with you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.
1 Corinthians 1:10



For when one says, “I am of Paul,” and another, “I am of Apollos,” are you not carnal? Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers through whom you believed, as the Lord gave to each one? I planted, Apollos watered, but God gave the increase. So then neither he who plants is anything, nor he who waters, but God who gives the increase. 1 Corinthians 3:4-7

 

[Christ_empowered]

Side note

I think most people who actively post on here probably qualify under the historical definition maybe not the modern one. And…

I’m still finding myself surprised by how secularization has made basic fundamental Christianity a rather radical faith. Then again…

Jesus Christ Himself says that a human being is for Him or against Him (paraphrasing). That’s the dividing line in humanity. And so…

I do think there should be some way to exercise discernment without causing unnecessary division…

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

Oh, just the opposite! Christians killing others has been massive through history, and still is.

That was taking God's name in vain.

 

[Whatever]

Now I plead with you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.
1 Corinthians 1:10

Yes I agree. That is why each congregation (the Church in Corinth) or denomination should have their own creed or confession. Anybody who wants to be a pastor or leader has to hold to that confession. Not so much average members.
The Church should have catechism classes to teach the regular members and their children what they believe.

 

[Whatever]

I’m still finding myself surprised by how secularization has made basic fundamental Christianity a rather radical faith.

I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, but wondering if you would provide some examples of what you mean.

I can see how the more secular or atheistic the culture becomes, the more hateful Christian truths become to them.

 

[Christ_empowered]

It’s as if people can sometimes be openly atheist openly agnostic and also have a sort of belief in some unnamed higher power…the last category seems to lend itself well to fans of psychotherapy and new age…

But basic Christian beliefs seem distasteful to so many people. Sin as a concept doesn’t sit well with people. Even the Christian perspective on time…creation has beginning middle and end…
Seems controversial especially to the new age set. They’re into cycles .

But…the good news is counterculture in any and all cultures. It’s not just today’s culture…

 

[JLB]

Yes I agree. That is why each congregation (the Church in Corinth) or denomination should have their own creed or confession.

There is one doctrine; the doctrine of Christ.


Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son.
2 John 9


The New Testament is His teaching. It is also referred to as the truth in scripture.

Example:


But shun profane and idle babblings, for they will increase to more ungodliness. And their message will spread like cancer. Hymenaeus and Philetus are of this sort, who have strayed concerning the truth, saying that the resurrection is already past; and they overthrow the faith of some. 2 Timothy 2:16-18

People who fall away or stray away or wander away from the truth are heading in the wrong direction.


Brethren, if anyone among you wanders from the truth, and someone turns him back, let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save a soul from death and cover a multitude of sins. James 5:19-20



God, who “will render to each one according to his deeds”: eternal life to those who by patient continuance in doing good seek for glory, honor, and immortality; but to those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness—indignation and wrath. Romans 2:6-8

 

[Dave...]

The inspiration of the Bible by the Holy Spirit and the inerrancy of Scripture as a result of this.
The virgin birth of Christ.
The belief that Christ's death was an atonement for sin.
The bodily resurrection of Christ.
The historical reality of Christ's miracles
Are what I understand to be what are the fundamental beliefs of Christianity.

Look at this quote above from 'Who Me'. Which one of you would be against this?

Do we not have a right to define the terms that we use to describe what we believe? These are fundamental doctrines, thus we are Christians who believe that these essential doctrines, or rather fundamental doctrines must be right if you are to be considered reasonably sound in your belief. This thought is often condensed into the term, or phrase, Christian fundamentalist. What does this term have to do with war? Only the redefining of it does.

If you fall for the redefinition of terms, then good luck, because our enemy already owns your mind.

Dave

 

[Who Me]

Isn't terrorism basically fueled by politics though?

Terrorism hasseveral motivating ideologies, Christianity is not one of them.

 

[Whatever]

There is one doctrine; the doctrine of Christ.

You do know that the word "doctrine" simply means teaching? Here is something from Paul:

Tit 2:11 For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men,
Tit 2:12 teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly in the present age

A teacher can talk about "Christ" all day long and never teach people to be denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, and living soberly, righteously, and godly.

Also the word "creed" simply means "I believe."
Middle English crede, from Old English crēda, from Latin credo, from credere to believe, trust, entrust; akin to Old Irish cretid he believes

"No creed but Christ" is deceptive. Somebody knocks on your door that has never been there and asks, what do you guys believe. You say "We have no creed but Christ."
But we only baptize by full immersion. We only baptize believing adults. We only have men as Elders and on and on with a thousand other things you disagree with from the other Church down the street.

 

[Whatever]

That would depend on your definition of a Christian.
My version, does not kill anyone.

Paul's does.

Rom 13:1 Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. . . .
Rom 13:4 For he is God's minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God's minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil.

The sword is a symbol of the magistrate's right to inflict capital punishment.

Gen 9:6 "Whoever sheds man's blood, By man his blood shall be shed; For in the image of God He made man.

This penalty of life for life is not to be left to natural law, but man himself, in such a manner and under such safeguards as the civil law in each country shall order, is to execute the Divine command.
Paul says this "governing authority" is God's minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil.

God is not a pacifist.

 

[JLB]

You do know that the word "doctrine" simply means teaching?

Yes.

 

[JLB]

You do know that the word "doctrine" simply means teaching? Here is something from Paul:

Tit 2:11 For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men,
Tit 2:12 teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly in the present age

A teacher can talk about "Christ" all day long and never teach people to be denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, and living soberly, righteously, and godly.

Also the word "creed" simply means "I believe."
Middle English crede, from Old English crēda, from Latin credo, from credere to believe, trust, entrust; akin to Old Irish cretid he believes

"No creed but Christ" is deceptive. Somebody knocks on your door that has never been there and asks, what do you guys believe. You say "We have no creed but Christ."
But we only baptize by full immersion. We only baptize believing adults. We only have men as Elders and on and on with a thousand other things you disagree with from the other Church down the street.

Who inspired Paul to write the letter to Titus that became scripture?

 

[follower]

That was taking God's name in vain.

Yes. Very common - "massive" throughout history!

 

[follower]

Terrorism hasseveral motivating ideologies, Christianity is not one of them.

Realizing in the world so-called christianity has motivated more destruction, death, lies, and oppression than most other ideologies as an ideology.

 

[Christ_empowered]

I dunno
Looking back we can say oh they weren’t really Christians. But think about the crusades and other wars approved by the church ️ then…

And how the forever wars were a ok with many USA churches.

Plus…

The people who declared war rarely fought the wars. The people who fought the wars were also all too often neglected upon returning home. Ugh that’s not an anti USA sentiment btw…

That’s often been the case across different countries and eras.