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Pride, inherent tendency to rebel against God. It's the greatest of the seven deadly sins, for which Satan was cast out of heaven for superseding God, all other six stemmed from pride - envy, gluttony, greed, lust, sloth, wrath. Please keep in mind of two things: first, the original sin is OUR personal sin which originated FROM Adam, not Adam's person sin or any of our ancestor's personal sins, some people deliberately conflate one with another; second, original sin is in our human nature, not particular immoral behaviors.Curious
according to the bible it was Adam and his wife . never trust a womanhuh? who?
who says we have 'original sin'?Pride, inherent tendency to rebel against God. It's the greatest of the seven deadly sins, for which Satan was cast out of heaven for superseding God, all other six stemmed from pride - envy, gluttony, greed, lust, sloth, wrath. Please keep in mind of two things: first, the original sin is OUR personal sin which originated FROM Adam, not Adam's person sin or any of our ancestor's personal sins, some people deliberately conflate one with another; second, original sin is in our human nature, not particular immoral behaviors.
Yes, Romans 5:12 talks about sin of Adam (original sin):Rom. 5:12
And where does that sin come from? Yes death reigned from Adam to Moses, but do people still die? Are we still subject to mortality or not? If yes, then that's the "wages of sin", and that's necessary - "Foolish one, what you sow is not made alive unless it dies?" (1 Cor. 15:36)Therefore, people are not under the original sin anymore. Everyone is responsible for his/her own sins (Compare Exodus 20:5 and Jeremiah 31:29,30).
lol you guys never seem to be able to agreeYes, Romans 5:12 talks about sin of Adam (original sin):
Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned.
However, Romans 5:14 says:
Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses.
Notice, that death from the original sin reigned only until Moses or until Old Covenant was in effect. Why not after Moses? Because by his death Yahshua the Messiah atoned for the sin of Adam (Romans 5:18):
Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
Therefore, people are not under the original sin anymore. Everyone is responsible for his/her own sins (Compare Exodus 20:5 and Jeremiah 31:29,30).
"Original Sin is a term that defines the nature of mankind’s sinful condition because of Adam’s fall. It teaches that all people are corrupted by Adam’s sin through natural generation..." https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/essay/original-sin/And where does that sin come from? Yes death reigned from Adam to Moses, but do people still die? Are we still subject to mortality or not? If yes, then that's the "wages of sin", and that's necessary - "Foolish one, what you sow is not made alive unless it dies?" (1 Cor. 15:36)
You're playing the exact trick I pointed out in my previous post - conflating the ORIGIN of sin with accountability of sin. "Original sin" indicates the ORIGIN of sin which entered the world through Adam. Adam disobeyed God, hid from God, and made excuse by subtly blaming God when he was caught, have you done something similar to that? Disobeying your parents, hiding from them, making excuse, playing blame game? If so, you're under the original sin.
Yes, Romans 5:12 talks about sin of Adam (original sin):
Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned.
However, Romans 5:14 says:
Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses.
Notice, that death from the original sin reigned only until Moses or until Old Covenant was in effect. Why not after Moses? Because by his death Yahshua the Messiah atoned for the sin of Adam (Romans 5:18):
Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
Therefore, people are not under the original sin anymore. Everyone is responsible for his/her own sins (Compare Exodus 20:5 and Jeremiah 31:29,30).
Look at this in a Biblical sense "original" usually means the first sin that is found in the Bible that begins with the sin of disobedience to God's command. Adam was the first to disobey Gods command and from that time all have fallen short of the glory of the Lord.I can't find the term 'original sin' in the Bible...
There is a web site that has articles on some of these things:Curious
It is a doctrine, or many variations of a doctrine or teachings, that various assemblies use to control other people and trying to look smart.Curious
I can't find the term 'original sin' in the Bible...
Nowhere in this definition indicates we're guilty of Adam's personal sin. It simply traces the existence of all sins back to Adam."Original Sin is a term that defines the nature of mankind’s sinful condition because of Adam’s fall. It teaches that all people are corrupted by Adam’s sin through natural generation..." https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/essay/original-sin/