What is 'original sin'?

[Whatever]

Nowhere in this definition indicates we're guilty of Adam's personal sin. It simply traces the existence of all sins back to Adam.

Right here:
As a people who from our birth are corrupted by sin, we share in Adam’s guilt before God, a guilt imputed to us under the covenant of works.

 

[electedbyHim]

Right here:
As a people who from our birth are corrupted by sin, we share in Adam’s guilt before God, a guilt imputed to us under the covenant of works.

Like Christ's righteoussness is imputed to all believers.

Adams sin is imputed to all humans.

According to the Bible, Adam’s sin is imputed to all humans, meaning that when Adam sinned in the Garden of Eden, his guilt and condemnation were attributed to every person born after him. This doctrine is rooted in several key passages:

1. Romans 5:12-14: “Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned.” This verse emphasizes that Adam’s sin had a universal impact, affecting all humanity.
2. Romans 5:18: “Therefore, just as one trespass resulted in condemnation for all people, so also one righteous act resulted in justification and life for all.” This passage highlights the imputation of Adam’s sin, making all people guilty and condemned before God.
3. 1 Corinthians 15:22: “For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive.” This verse underscores the connection between Adam’s sin and humanity’s mortality, as well as the redemptive work of Christ.

The imputation of Adam’s sin is not a matter of inherited guilt or a physical transmission of sin from one generation to the next. Rather, it is a theological concept that emphasizes the representative nature of Adam as the “father” of humanity. When Adam sinned, he acted as a federal head, and his guilt was imputed to all his descendants, including every person born after him.

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

Right here:
As a people who from our birth are corrupted by sin, we share in Adam’s guilt before God, a guilt imputed to us under the covenant of works.

No, Adam's sin is his own, our sin originates from him. You don't seem to be a bright one capable of critical thinking.

 

[electedbyHim]

No, Adam's sin is his own, our sin originates from him. You don't seem to be a bright one capable of critical thinking.

You sure like to put people down, and are very condescending.

You would do well to do a study on humility.

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

You sure like to put people down, and are very condescending.

You would do well to do a study on humility.

All I did was exposing the trick of conflating origin of sin with accountability of sin.

 

[Whatever]

No, Adam's sin is his own, our sin originates from him. You don't seem to be a bright one capable of critical thinking.

I am understanding this from a Biblical viewpoint. God makes covenants with people. Adam was the first man; he was essentially the first Priest. He was the representative for the human race. What he did effected all his posterity.

Romans 5:19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so also by one Man's obedience many will be made righteous.

By Adam's disobedience many were made sinners.
By Jesus obedience many will be made righteous.

If you were not made a sinner in Adam, you will not be made righteous in Jesus.

This is the rule. The way God set it up. Those obsessed with man's free will cannot accept it.

 

[Beetow]

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POSIT: The conventional concept of original sin is an error because the Bible
says a man's posterity isn't held accountable for his mistakes.

"The soul who sins is the one who will die. The son will not share the guilt of the
father, nor will the father share the guilt of the son. The righteousness of the
righteous man will be credited to him, and the wickedness of the wicked will be
charged against him." (Ezek 18:20, cf. Deut 24:16)

REPLY: The secret to this is simply timing. According to Deut 5:2-4 and Gal 3:17,
the laws of God-- especially His codified rules and regulations --are not enforced ex
post facto, i.e. they aren't retroactive.

NOTE: This principle works to everyone's advantage.

Jesus was a Jew (Heb 7:14) born under the jurisdiction of Moses' law (Gal 4:4) and
circumcised the 8th day (Luke 2:21). Well, the thing is: human sacrifices are
outside the law, i.e. they are illegal and Moses cannot be revised to accept them.

● Deut 4:2 . . You shall not add anything to what I command you or take anything
away from it, but keep the commandments of the Lord your God that I enjoin upon
you.

● Deut 5:29-30 . . Be careful, then, to do as the Lord your God has commanded you.
Do not turn aside to the right or to the left: follow only the path that the Lord your
God has enjoined upon you

However; Jesus was designated, and scheduled, for the cross not only prior to
Moses, but also prior to the cosmos itself. (Mic 5:2, 1Pet 1:18-20, Rev 13:8)
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[Carry_Your_Name]

I am understanding this from a Biblical viewpoint. God makes covenants with people. Adam was the first man; he was essentially the first Priest. He was the representative for the human race. What he did effected all his posterity.

Romans 5:19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so also by one Man's obedience many will be made righteous.

By Adam's disobedience many were made sinners.
By Jesus obedience many will be made righteous.

If you were not made a sinner in Adam, you will not be made righteous in Jesus.

This is the rule. The way God set it up. Those obsessed with man's free will cannot accept it.

Nobody is "made" a sinner, everyone is BORN a sinner in need of salvation from God through Jesus, there is none righteous without him, that's why you must be born again so that you can inherit the kingdom of God in an incorruptible body in the next life. Sin is not acquired or learned behavior, but human nature, "free will" on the other hand is God given power to overcome this nature and glorify God. Nobody needs to be taught to kill, steal and destroy, we're naturally inclinded to do that, because that's the path of least resistance, to kill what others have conceived, steal what others have earned, destroy what others have built; it takes time, effort, education and resolve to conceive, earn and build by yourself, that's what free will is for.

Most people cannot accept this, they're brainwashed with Nitzschean view that human nature is inherently good, everyone was born as a "blank canvas", anything bad is the society's, the world's, their parents', their peers' fault, they're just victimized. That is not biblical.

 

[Whatever]

Nobody is "made" a sinner

So you want to contradict Paul?

Rom 5:19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners . . .

"Made" = G2525 kathistēmi
From G2596 and G2476; to place down (permanently), that is, (figuratively) to designate, constitute, convoy: - appoint, be, conduct, make, ordain, set.

 

[RandyK]

I can't find the term 'original sin' in the Bible...

Why are you looking for the term? There are a lot of concepts in the Bible that dodn't assume the form by which others title it.

The concept of the origin of sin has already been given to you. Apparently you aren't really looking for an answer?

For those who are serious, the answer given was that Adam and Eve, motivated by selfish interest, pursued a course in opposition to God's express word to them--do not eat of that tree. They assumed the prideful position of being superior to their Creator, even though it stemmed from a deception.

This rebellious nature from that point on remained with them, and is passed on, spiritually, to their descendants. We are born with this tendency towards rebellion.

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

So you want to contradict Paul?

Rom 5:19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners . . .

"Made" = G2525 kathistēmi
From G2596 and G2476; to place down (permanently), that is, (figuratively) to designate, constitute, convoy: - appoint, be, conduct, make, ordain, set.

So you suggest Paul contradicts himself? 5:19 against 5:12? Original sin can be traced back to the OT, for Adam's sin the whole earth was cursed, as long as we live on this earth we suffer from the consequences of Adam's sin.

Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin my mother conceived me. (Ps. 51:5)
“Cursed is the ground for your sake; in toil you shall eat of it all the days of your life. (Gen. 3:17)

 

[Whatever]

So you suggest Paul contradicts himself? 5:19 against 5:12?

I don't see the contradiction you think is there.

Rom 5:19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so also by one Man's obedience many will be made righteous.

Rom 5:12 Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned

I assume you are grabbing the "because all sinned" to mean "because every person committed his own personal sins."

This is how we see it:
Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers
For that all have sinned.—.Rather, for that, or because, all sinned—i.e., not by their own individual act, but implicitly in Adam’s transgression. They were summed up, and included in him as the head and representative of the race.

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

I don't see the contradiction you think is there.

Rom 5:19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so also by one Man's obedience many will be made righteous.

Rom 5:12 Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned

I assume you are grabbing the "because all sinned" to mean "because every person committed his own personal sins."

This is how we see it:
Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers
For that all have sinned.—.Rather, for that, or because, all sinned—i.e., not by their own individual act, but implicitly in Adam’s transgression. They were summed up, and included in him as the head and representative of the race.

Doesn't that actually seal the deal of the original sin? If anyone were made a sinner by his or her own sin, then you can say sin is made by nurture; but that's clearly not the case here, many were made sinners by ADAM's sin, and did Adam sin before or after they were born? Before? Good, then all were born sinners. In this particular context, what "made" many sinners is Adam's sin because all sins originated from Adam's sin, and as this commentary says, summed up in Adam's sin, and all sinners are represented by Adam.