What Is Wrong With The NIV Bible ?

[JudaicChristian]

Tip of the day: Steer manure makes a great stocking stuffer.

 

[ronniechoate34]

"Would it surprise you that the holder of the Copyright of the New International Version Bible also holds the copyright for Hustler magazine - pornography. Rupert Murdock, called "Media's prince of Darkness" by Chicago columnist Mike Royco, owns the copyright & exclusive printing rights on the most sold newer Bible version in the world, the NIV (through Zondervan Publishing House, Grand Rapids Michigan, which he owns). Murdoch also owns the copyright on another corrupt Bible version, the Amplified Version."

I've already addressed this. The copyright of the NIV is owned by the International Bible Society.

What''s your point? They are simply another satanic outfit disguised under the cloak of Jesus Christ and good works. That's apparent. Why else would they allow Rupert Murdoch to hold the right to the NIV? Use some discernment when looking into these things will ya'? I can guarantee you that the IBS, or Biblica as it is now known, holds some pretty radical doctrine to be the truth, when in fact it isn't the truth at all.


Why don't you address all of the issues?

 

[Free]

I've already addressed this. The copyright of the NIV is owned by the International Bible Society.

What''s your point? They are simply another satanic outfit disguised under the cloak of Jesus Christ and good works. That's apparent. Why else would they allow Rupert Murdoch to hold the right to the NIV? Use some discernment when looking into these things will ya'? I can guarantee you that the IBS, or Biblica as it is now known, holds some pretty radical doctrine to be the truth, when in fact it isn't the truth at all.

And your proof of this is where?

 

[Aero_Hudson]

"Would it surprise you that the holder of the Copyright of the New International Version Bible also holds the copyright for Hustler magazine - pornography. Rupert Murdock, called "Media's prince of Darkness" by Chicago columnist Mike Royco, owns the copyright & exclusive printing rights on the most sold newer Bible version in the world, the NIV (through Zondervan Publishing House, Grand Rapids Michigan, which he owns). Murdoch also owns the copyright on another corrupt Bible version, the Amplified Version."

I've already addressed this. The copyright of the NIV is owned by the International Bible Society.

What''s your point? They are simply another satanic outfit disguised under the cloak of Jesus Christ and good works. That's apparent. Why else would they allow Rupert Murdoch to hold the right to the NIV? Use some discernment when looking into these things will ya'? I can guarantee you that the IBS, or Biblica as it is now known, holds some pretty radical doctrine to be the truth, when in fact it isn't the truth at all.


Why don't you address all of the issues?

Let me make sure I understand what you are saying. The NIV translation is satanic? Really? Is that what you are claiming here? If so, I think that is taking it way overboard.

 

[ronniechoate34]

Let me make sure I understand what you are saying. The NIV translation is satanic? Really? Is that what you are claiming here? If so, I think that is taking it way overboard.

Yes the NIV is satanic. But I don't wanna' fight about it.

 

[Menno]

And the KJV1611 version has masonic handshakes all over it, and we all know that masonic handshakes are satanic:

http://www.cuttingedgeministries.net/news/k1002.cfm

Seriously, it says so right there in the link....


[/sarcasm]

 

[Free]

Let me make sure I understand what you are saying. The NIV translation is satanic? Really? Is that what you are claiming here? If so, I think that is taking it way overboard.

Yes the NIV is satanic. But I don't wanna' fight about it.

Do you want to at least provide evidence of such an assertion?

 

[ronniechoate34]

Let me make sure I understand what you are saying. The NIV translation is satanic? Really? Is that what you are claiming here? If so, I think that is taking it way overboard.

Yes the NIV is satanic. But I don't wanna' fight about it.

Do you want to at least provide evidence of such an assertion?

Why? Does it make a difference? Of course it doesn't, and of course, I don't feel like wasting my time.


M't:7:6: Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

 

[Free]

Yes the NIV is satanic. But I don't wanna' fight about it.

Do you want to at least provide evidence of such an assertion?

Why? Does it make a difference? Of course it doesn't, and of course, I don't feel like wasting my time.


M't:7:6: Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

Trust me, this is most definitely not a case of casting pearls before swine.

Of course it makes a difference. One cannot go about making such strong assertions about something and then not provide any evidence to back it up. Is it a waste of time to try and show the truth of a matter?

If you don't want to provide evidence that's up to you, but until you do so, your assertion will be held as utterly false.

 

[Timothy]

Why? Does it make a difference? Of course it doesn't, and of course, I don't feel like wasting my time.


M't:7:6: Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

Making a statement like that without backing it up is the same as saying everything I've said is a lie.

 

[ronniechoate34]

Have an of you ever tried to show a blind person anything?

 

[ronniechoate34]

Trust me, this is most definitely not a case of casting pearls before swine.

Of course it makes a difference. One cannot go about making such strong assertions about something and then not provide any evidence to back it up. Is it a waste of time to try and show the truth of a matter?

If you don't want to provide evidence that's up to you, but until you do so, your assertion will be held as utterly false.

There is already a lot of evidence given by many people. Look into that.

 

[ronniechoate34]

Why? Does it make a difference? Of course it doesn't, and of course, I don't feel like wasting my time.


M't:7:6: Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

Making a statement like that without backing it up is the same as saying everything I've said is a lie.

Not even close.

 

[Free]

Trust me, this is most definitely not a case of casting pearls before swine.

Of course it makes a difference. One cannot go about making such strong assertions about something and then not provide any evidence to back it up. Is it a waste of time to try and show the truth of a matter?

If you don't want to provide evidence that's up to you, but until you do so, your assertion will be held as utterly false.

There is already a lot of evidence given by many people. Look into that.

I have looked into much of this so-called evidence and have found the majority of it to be fallacious claims by largely very legalistic groups. If you don't want to give evidence, then don't make such claims.

 

[Timothy]

Why? Does it make a difference? Of course it doesn't, and of course, I don't feel like wasting my time.


M't:7:6: Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

Making a statement like that without backing it up is the same as saying everything I've said is a lie.

Not even close.

If you aren't willing to back anything up then you shouldn't have said anything. I don't like or even use NIV so don't think I'm saying for or against either view point. I don't have a view on this as it just doesn't pertain to me at all. Just making the point that you don't start an argument and not back it up, specially something like what you did.

Wisdom would have been to avoid the topic completely rather then try to convince people with statements of opinion without fact based behind it. You didn't even provide even questionable evidence, merely made a statement and called everyone swine. LOL not the best way to make an argument, and it speaks volumes in and of itself. So to save yourself from foolishness of your words I might suggest either an apology or something that explains your viewpoint. Without one or the other your just looking to stir a hornet's nest.

To truly not cast pearls before swine would mean avoiding disputable matters that you were not willing to follow through with. For the rest I would suggest proverbs 23: 9. It's not worth the trouble to argue someone who's not willing to have a real discussion.

 

[ronniechoate34]

If you aren't willing to back anything up then you shouldn't have said anything. I don't like or even use NIV so don't think I'm saying for or against either view point. I don't have a view on this as it just doesn't pertain to me at all. Just making the point that you don't start an argument and not back it up, specially something like what you did.

Wisdom would have been to avoid the topic completely rather then try to convince people with statements of opinion without fact based behind it. You didn't even provide even questionable evidence, merely made a statement and called everyone swine. LOL not the best way to make an argument, and it speaks volumes in and of itself. So to save yourself from foolishness of your words I might suggest either an apology or something that explains your viewpoint. Without one or the other your just looking to stir a hornet's nest.

To truly not cast pearls before swine would mean avoiding disputable matters that you were not willing to follow through with. For the rest I would suggest proverbs 23: 9. It's not worth the trouble to argue someone who's not willing to have a real discussion.

You see, here is the problem. I have been over this and over this time and again with people on these forums. These people have belittled not only my intelligence but the intelligence of anyone who agrees with me. These people, these Westcott and Hort only people, they always insult my convictions and many of them deny that I have ever encountered the Holy Ghost, much less learned anything of value from Him.


If you were not going to do any of that then forgive me. But if you were then I stand by what I said, all of it, including the scripture I used.

 

[Timothy]

You see, here is the problem. I have been over this and over this time and again with people on these forums. These people have belittled not only my intelligence but the intelligence of anyone who agrees with me. These people, these Westcott and Hort only people, they always insult my convictions and many of them deny that I have ever encountered the Holy Ghost, much less learned anything of value from Him.


If you were not going to do any of that then forgive me. But if you were then I stand by what I said, all of it, including the scripture I used.

I've no plans to do any of that. As I said I don't like NIV, I don't use it and don't have an opinion on it. I prefer another translation. I won't have an opinion of NIV mainly because the translation just doesn't read right for me. Note i said for me, I'm not making any inference into it's origin or nature of it.

Just if you've been through this before, avoid the topic, don't continue arguing the same things with same people. But also know that new people will wander through threads from time to time. I didn't read through it till today. Making a bold statement such as you did, that has no reference to fact or proof, only serves to shoot yourself in the foot. Immediately i will dismiss such statements but if someone points something out to me I will check it out even for the issue of satisfying my curiosity.

I wouldn't say it was an issue of casting pearls before swine. I understand this may be an important issue to you, and you feel mistreated by some forum posters here. But it undercuts any argument by bringing emotional responses into it. They don't have to agree with you to be a brother even if they let their anger and emotions dictate their responses from time to time it doesn't excuse our responses back. I've seen more then one person post judgemental and emotional responses toward me for my beliefs on these forums but I will always try and post to my convictions in return and avoid the same pitfall they fell into. Sometimes I fail at that, more then not I can maintain the high ground. I've also learned when people are willing to listen here and when they aren't. And when they aren't i ignore the discussion, no point spinning my wheels.

 

[Vic C.]

I'm cheap; if it's free, it's for me. I like public domain like KJV,YLT, etc.

I'll leave you all with this tidbit I got from a fortune cookie:

NIV= Nearly Inspired Version. :biglaugh

 

[ronniechoate34]

I'm cheap; if it's free, it's for me. I like public domain like KJV,YLT, etc.

I'll leave you all with this tidbit I got from a fortune cookie:

NIV= Nearly Inspired Version. :biglaugh

I've always thought that the NIV was the Non Inspired Version.

 

[Lewis]

Read this http://www.jesus-is-lord.com/nivmusli.htm