What Most Christians Believe

[Catholic Crusader]

well, okay

 

[turnorburn]

This man is a heretic I agree! terrified? and why would he be terrified I ask? This heretic as you
call him, his heresy was against the Pope and his church. Your infallible Pope :wink:
As for being terrified look, he knows the second his tormentors have finished their wicked
task he'll be in the arms of Jesus. There is another kind of heretic, one that blasphemes
God, he's the one who should be terrified And that man is the Anti-Christ himself the entire
world will worship the beast, your doing it every day. Its quite simple, I worship Jesus Christ,
and you worship the man, you know his picture on your avatar? him! :

In His Service,
turnorburn

Daniel Rambaut, of Vilario, the father of a numerous family, was apprehended, and, with several others, committed to prison, in the jail of Paysana. Here he was visited by several priests, who with continual importunities did all they could to persuade him to renounce the Protestant religion and turn papist; but this he peremptorily refused, and the priests finding his resolution, pretended to pity his numerous family, and told him that he might yet have his life, if he would subscribe to the belief of the following articles:

Yes, a terrifying ordeal for this heretic...

It is really easy to judge people using our own mentality and societal ideals. Before you judge too quickly, consider this...

First, these "Inquisitors" actually BELIEVED they were trying to save the soul of this individual. Recall, the BIG picture is our eternal destiny, not the suffering we undergo today. With that mentality, one can see, to a degree, how they were able to torture someone with the end result of bringing one's soul to salvation. Now, the Church teaches that "the end does NOT justifiy the means". This teaching was obviously not well-adhered to during the Inquisition...

Secondly, are WE so innocent and holy that we can toss condemnation upon people of other ERAS? What would THEY say about euthanasia and abortion and contraception? No doubt, I hit upon one that you probably are not adverse to. THEY would consider you "un-Christian" for practicing or even being neutral about any of these attacks upon life. What right do WE have of condemning another age and their way of life when WE, despite our technology and knowledge and foresight - STILL cannot feed people in our country, MILLIONS. Have a divorce rate of 50%. Have disgusting forms of entertainment that is hardly censured. Really. Are we in a position to judge men who used "evil" means to save a soul? At least there was SOME justified reason. What reason do we have for aborting children? Because we want to buy a new car???

And finally, I could certainly post very similar stories, even worse, of English Catholic martyrs, men whose entrails were ripped out while they hung from a yardarm still alive - and worse. Posting such things as that do very little to advance the desire of Christ - that they be one.

Know this. Christ established only ONE Church... There is no salvation outside of it. Pray that God considers you part of that one Church, my friend. Pray that your rejection is based upon "invincible ignorance".

Regards

 

[Catholic Crusader]

....There is another kind of heretic, one that blasphemes
God, he's the one who should be terrified And that man is the Anti-Christ himself the entire
world will worship the beast, your doing it every day. Its quite simple, I worship Jesus Christ,
and you worship the man...

HEY! You're out of line! We don't worship men and you know it! Take all that antichrist stuff somewhere else. WE ARE CHRISTIANS, and, I might add, we are Christians who do not condemn our fellow Christians like you do!

 

[francisdesales]

This man is a heretic I agree! terrified? and why would he be terrified I ask? This heretic as you
call him, his heresy was against the Pope and his church. Your infallible Pope :wink:
As for being terrified look, he knows the second his tormentors have finished their wicked
task he'll be in the arms of Jesus.

That is unknown. Only presumptuous Christians claim they KNOW they will be taken "into the arms of Jesus" upon their death.

There is another kind of heretic, one that blasphemes God, he's the one who should be terrified. And that man is the Anti-Christ himself the entire world will worship the beast, your doing it every day

Yes, blaspheming God's Church, established by Christ, somehow gets "brownie points" for you? I am sure satan is pleased with your misrepresentations of Truth...

It is saddening that there is always one anti-Catholic who comes here and ruins perfectly friendly conversation between people who love God yet disagree on particulars. Satan always seems to be able to dredge up another "loving" and "self-righteous" soul who is convinced that he knows more about Christ than 2000 years of Christians who in many cases gave their lives to God, whether in cloister, the priesthood, or martydom - while you sit in your cozy house casting your vitrolic accusations at such people. Well, good for you, I hope you are proud of yourself...

Its quite simple, I worship Jesus Christ, and you worship the man, you know his picture on your avatar? him! :

I don't worship St. Francis de Sales, nor do you worship Jesus Christ. If you did, it would be evident in your behavior...

Whosoever hates his brother is a murderer and ye know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him. 1 John 3:15

I'll ask the great Saint to pray for you, as will I.

Regards

 

[biblecatholic]

This man is a heretic I agree! terrified? and why would he be terrified I ask? This heretic as you
call him, his heresy was against the Pope and his church. Your infallible Pope :wink:
As for being terrified look, he knows the second his tormentors have finished their wicked
task he'll be in the arms of Jesus. There is another kind of heretic, one that blasphemes
God, he's the one who should be terrified And that man is the Anti-Christ himself the entire
world will worship the beast, your doing it every day. Its quite simple, I worship Jesus Christ,
and you worship the man, you know his picture on your avatar? him! :

In His Service,
turnorburn

Every time you write you show how little you know or understand. Your understanding of history is abysmal, your understanding of the scriptures are as well. But Christ can see your heart so I hope what He sees is an open Heart to Him. You worship a "Jesus Christ" you don't even know, but God is merciful and you are trying.

 

[Vic C.]

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