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What power is there in prayer?
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stovebolts
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I think your right. I need to get out of my pity party and be the spiritual leader for my Son. God, help me with my unbelief...
From my meagre experience - I'm only 25 - God can say no to all sorts of things, but not understanding? It just seems like God encourages us to have such a never-ending conversation with Him, instead of the short one-sided prayer.
Maybe you've already done this though, and if so, apologies for being redundant.
Maybe you've already done this though, and if so, apologies for being redundant.
stovebolts
Member
No apologies needed friend and I'd say your experience is spot on. I accepted God into my live over 30 years ago and it's not always been this pleasant experience with blue skies and rainbows like I've heard Christ preached by others. It's not having the right head knowledge and saying the right things when you feel the complete opposite inside. God can't transform us or heal us if we're not honest with ourselves first. Thanks for your encouragement and your insight.
Claudya
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I know it's more than just your son's wrestling matches.
But as for the wrestling, I'd hesitate to pray for the result of a sports competition. If God would intervene into such a situation He'd violate the spirit of the competition. Why would God favour your son over the other boys that probably been through the same amount of training and who's families might be praying for them, too, and who would be just as devastated about losing as your son would be?
On the other hand after reading this thread I really feel like disregarding the stuff I just wrote. I'd like to pray for your son to make it.
Sorry, I'm really a baby christian with very little wisdom, so I'm unworthy of helping you.
But as for the wrestling, I'd hesitate to pray for the result of a sports competition. If God would intervene into such a situation He'd violate the spirit of the competition. Why would God favour your son over the other boys that probably been through the same amount of training and who's families might be praying for them, too, and who would be just as devastated about losing as your son would be?
On the other hand after reading this thread I really feel like disregarding the stuff I just wrote. I'd like to pray for your son to make it.
Sorry, I'm really a baby christian with very little wisdom, so I'm unworthy of helping you.
stovebolts
Member
Claudia,
My wife says that perhaps the other boy was praying too... It makes it no less frustrating.
The father of the boy actually came up to me in the hallway and asked me if I thought my son won. I had no idea it was the father of the kid. With respect I told him no, I didn't think my son lost. Then he told me that he didn't think his son won either and thought the table screwed up the points, but his coach said the points were right. I told him that his son had been blessed, and he asked me in an awkward way what I meant. Right then his son came to his Fathers side and I said, "You've been given a gift today. I don't think you won that match, but I'm not saying your a bad wrestler. Your an excellent wrestler. What I'm saying is that you have recieved a gift. Your going to state. Now don't let go of that gift. Go out and make something with it at State. Make your Daddy and your team proud of you. He nodded his head and the Father said, "Do you know Trent Henckel? I said yes, and that was terrible. He said his son wrestled with Trent and they had also worked all summer to get here.
The dialog was good, and after a bit I thanked him for coming to me,and that he was a good man.
I know God was working in that situation. But there is the other side of me that had to let go of a dream to see my son achieve what he wanted, and I wanted it for him. It's hard to let go of a years worth of prayer and work as it turns into thorns. Perhaps they were thorns from a rose though... It just sucks getting pricked.
My wife says that perhaps the other boy was praying too... It makes it no less frustrating.
The father of the boy actually came up to me in the hallway and asked me if I thought my son won. I had no idea it was the father of the kid. With respect I told him no, I didn't think my son lost. Then he told me that he didn't think his son won either and thought the table screwed up the points, but his coach said the points were right. I told him that his son had been blessed, and he asked me in an awkward way what I meant. Right then his son came to his Fathers side and I said, "You've been given a gift today. I don't think you won that match, but I'm not saying your a bad wrestler. Your an excellent wrestler. What I'm saying is that you have recieved a gift. Your going to state. Now don't let go of that gift. Go out and make something with it at State. Make your Daddy and your team proud of you. He nodded his head and the Father said, "Do you know Trent Henckel? I said yes, and that was terrible. He said his son wrestled with Trent and they had also worked all summer to get here.
The dialog was good, and after a bit I thanked him for coming to me,and that he was a good man.
I know God was working in that situation. But there is the other side of me that had to let go of a dream to see my son achieve what he wanted, and I wanted it for him. It's hard to let go of a years worth of prayer and work as it turns into thorns. Perhaps they were thorns from a rose though... It just sucks getting pricked.
stovebolts
Member
I just wanted to give a little update.
My son wanted to talk about Trent last night, and we did for a bit. Then we talked about his match that he lost and I asked how his shoe came off and he told me that it comes off a little every time he drags his heal. He wasn't sure how it came all the way off but he was surprised. I told him, regardless of the points, if his shoe had not come off he would have won that match. He agreed and has accepted the quirk. He knows he's a good wrestler.
We are now focusing on this Saturday where we will wrestle the MYWAY league. And yes, we will pray that he makes it to state this time.
This is in memory of Trent.
[video=youtube;5tYl3uKHT70]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tYl3uKHT70[/video]
My son wanted to talk about Trent last night, and we did for a bit. Then we talked about his match that he lost and I asked how his shoe came off and he told me that it comes off a little every time he drags his heal. He wasn't sure how it came all the way off but he was surprised. I told him, regardless of the points, if his shoe had not come off he would have won that match. He agreed and has accepted the quirk. He knows he's a good wrestler.
We are now focusing on this Saturday where we will wrestle the MYWAY league. And yes, we will pray that he makes it to state this time.
This is in memory of Trent.
[video=youtube;5tYl3uKHT70]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tYl3uKHT70[/video]
stovebolts
Member
Yeah it is.
It was soo funny last summer. His Dad build a pole barn and turned it into a wrestling room. (Yeah, they have money and lots of it). After practice Trent wanted to go swimming in the lake and Jace and I were the only ones who stayed after to go swimming. It was a blast. They had a big rope on a tree that swung out to the lake (over the dock) and Trents Dad asked Jace if he wanted to swing... and Jace swung out, let go of the rope and barely cleared the dock. Gave us all a heart attack!
Anyway, here is a video of Jace getting his butt whooped by Trent last year. Although I do have to say Jace held his own.
Jace is in Black
[video=youtube;TTXd6re6itg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTXd6re6itg[/video]
stovebolts
Member
Jason,
It's just a standard youtube video. Do you have the latest flashplayer installed for your browser?
Don't reach back LOL! too funny!
Anyway, I wish we could have gone to more practices at Trent's house, but at 15 bucks a practice that would have added 60 bucks a month for one practice a week. Something that we couldn't do.
It's just a standard youtube video. Do you have the latest flashplayer installed for your browser?
Don't reach back LOL! too funny!
Anyway, I wish we could have gone to more practices at Trent's house, but at 15 bucks a practice that would have added 60 bucks a month for one practice a week. Something that we couldn't do.
stovebolts
Member
Install Chrome lol!
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JCitoL
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honestly, it would not at all be surprisingly if God doesn't answer prayers of a parent who thereby asks Him to make its son to become a professional wrestler, or a boxer, or any other suchlike thing - He is not a maker of aggressive acts, but if you mean solely a sport wrestling then the chance to be answered to your prayers is bigger - after all the true God is not thor or odin
Blessings
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stovebolts
Member
I understand.
Do me a favor. Watch this video of my son wrestling a boy named Hunter just a few weeks ago. This kid beat my son earlier this season and my son patted the kid on the back and told him "Nice match" at the end. Now then, my son beat this kid in this match, but if you don't watch the whole match, watch the very end of the match when my son wins. Look what he does and look how he responds to this kid.
[video=youtube;eILDpKxoxJE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eILDpKxoxJE[/video]
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JCitoL
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in such circumstances i can only say: May the true God and Jesus guide you, your son and all your house. Amen.
Blessings
stovebolts
Member
You didn't offend me at all Edward and thanks for your comments.
We do pray for his safety. Last year a kid pulled out his rotator cuff and he was out for several weeks. He still is very conscious of his rotator cuff. I don't have a crystal ball, so what you say could very well be.
I must say that I was a bit overwhelmed with emotion Sunday. Both having my son loose the way he lost and finding out about Trent. Emotions can run high with me at times and I think I'm pretty much over my temper tantrum. I still don't know exactly what to think of the matter, but I know where I need to keep my focus. And that's why I started this topic. I just needed some support from some Brothers and Sisters.
We do pray for his safety. Last year a kid pulled out his rotator cuff and he was out for several weeks. He still is very conscious of his rotator cuff. I don't have a crystal ball, so what you say could very well be.
I must say that I was a bit overwhelmed with emotion Sunday. Both having my son loose the way he lost and finding out about Trent. Emotions can run high with me at times and I think I'm pretty much over my temper tantrum. I still don't know exactly what to think of the matter, but I know where I need to keep my focus. And that's why I started this topic. I just needed some support from some Brothers and Sisters.
iLOVE
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Careful: when the Christian Believer stop believing they reject Jesus. The #1 sin in the bible is unbelief!
<SUP class=versenum>8 </SUP>But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars<SUP class=crossreference value='(A)'></SUP>—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur.<SUP class=crossreference value='(B)'></SUP> This is the second death.†Revelation 21:8<SUP class=crossreference value='(C)'></SUP>
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JCitoL
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people, we do not want to confuse anyone of you, and forgive us for inserting this here, but do not you think that any thing is a luxury as opposed to the situation of the needy and the ailing people who suffer and die without there be even who to pray for them?!
Blessings
Blessings