And the second question: (I told you that we are miles apart!;))
Acts 15
[1] And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved.
(THIS IS THE ONLY THING THAT IS BEING CONSIDERED! The Law of MOSES.)
[2] When therefore Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and disputation with them, they determined that Paul and Barnabas, and certain other of them, should go up to Jerusalem unto the apostles and elders about [[[this question]]].
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[4] And when they were come to Jerusalem, they were received of the church, and of the apostles and elders, and they declared all things that God had done with them.
[5] But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed,
saying, [[[That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses]]].
[6]
And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter.
(and that is as CLEAR as SUNLIGHT! 'IF' one is SINCERE!?)
[7] And when there had been much disputing
Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles, by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.
(do you remember Peter's 3 TIME VISION???)
[8] And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us;
[9] And put no difference between us
and them, purifying their hearts by faith.
(now again, the ONLY ISSUE was what???? It was NOT THE LAW OF GOD, but the Gal. 3:19 'ADDED' LAW THAT MOSES PENNED!)
[10] Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?
[11] But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.
[12] Then all the multitude (THE WHOLE CHURCH ibid 4 AS WELL!) kept silence, and gave audience to Barnabas and Paul, declaring what miracles and wonders God had wrought among the Gentiles by them.
[13] And after they had held their peace, James answered, saying, Men and brethren, hearken unto me: (even note that James was the presiding Elder here, not Peter!)
[14] Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name.
[15] And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it is written,
[16]
After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up:
[17] That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things.
[18] Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world.
[19] Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God:
(and this had NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ETERNAL GOVERNMENT LAW OF THE UNIVERSE, the Ten Commandments!! James 2:8-12)
[20] But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.
[21] For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.
[22] Then pleased it the apostles and elders, with the whole church,
to send chosen men of their own company to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas; namely, Judas surnamed Barsabas, and Silas, chief men among the brethren:
[23] And they wrote letters by them after [[this manner;]] The apostles and elders and brethren send greeting unto the brethren which are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia:
[24]
Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment:
[25] It seemed good unto us, being assembled with one accord, to send chosen men unto you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul,[26] Men that have hazarded their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.
[27] We have sent therefore Judas and Silas, who shall also tell you the same things by mouth.
[28] For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things;
[29] That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.
[30] So when they were dismissed, they came to Antioch: and when they had gathered the multitude together, they delivered the epistle:
[31] Which when they had read, they rejoiced for the consolation.
[32] And Judas and Silas, being prophets also themselves, exhorted the brethren with many words, and confirmed them.
And friend(s) if you can find the ONLY PORTION OF THE WORD OF GOD SEEN IN THIS CHAPTER, then 'i' know what group of only TWO that you are in! Matt. 6:24 And yes it is known what ONE COMMANDMENT that satan hates the most! Dan. 7:25! REMEMBER THE 7th DAY SABBATH AND KEEP IT HOLY!
And this is TODAY STILL the only one that most of the Rev. 17:1-5 are STILL BREAKING! How come, do you have any real idea???? LONG LONG PAST Gen. 6:3's STRIVING OF THE HOLY SPIRIT FOR ACCEPTANCE!
--Elijah
