What were these LIVE ORACLES FROM GOD! Act 7:38

[Elijah674]

As far as the Law for gentiles, to understand this, one has to understand that the Law and the Old Covenant were not one in the same thing. The Law was the Law and has been around since the beginning. The Old Covenant was the agreement between God and the nation of Israel. Gentiles could be "grafted" in by accepting God as their God and renouncing their former pagan ways. (Sound familiar?) The Ten Commandments on the other hand, were around long before the Covenant. They are the Law of God, not the Old Covenant. The Old Covenant was the agreement that if Israel obeyed God's Law, He would give them many wonderful blessings.

Wow! Now that makes sense, God had NO LAW! Very deceitful!

--Elijah

PS: Whatever?

 

[John 8:32]

As far as the Law for gentiles, to understand this, one has to understand that the Law and the Old Covenant were not one in the same thing. The Law was the Law and has been around since the beginning. The Old Covenant was the agreement between God and the nation of Israel. Gentiles could be "grafted" in by accepting God as their God and renouncing their former pagan ways. (Sound familiar?) The Ten Commandments on the other hand, were around long before the Covenant. They are the Law of God, not the Old Covenant. The Old Covenant was the agreement that if Israel obeyed God's Law, He would give them many wonderful blessings.

Wow! Now that makes sense, God had NO LAW! Very deceitful!

--Elijah

PS: Whatever?

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Where did you get that idea? What I posted is that the Law (Ten Commandments) has been from before creation and all are subject to it, Israelite and Gentile alike. I think you misread what I stated.

 

[Elijah674]

As far as the Law for gentiles, to understand this, one has to understand that the Law and the Old Covenant were not one in the same thing. The Law was the Law and has been around since the beginning. The Old Covenant was the agreement between God and the nation of Israel. Gentiles could be "grafted" in by accepting God as their God and renouncing their former pagan ways. (Sound familiar?) The Ten Commandments on the other hand, were around long before the Covenant. They are the Law of God, not the Old Covenant. The Old Covenant was the agreement that if Israel obeyed God's Law, He would give them many wonderful blessings.

Wow! Now that makes sense, God had NO LAW! Very deceitful!

--Elijah

Where did you get that idea? What I posted is that the Law (Ten Commandments) has been from before creation and all are subject to it, Israelite and Gentile alike. I think you misread what I stated.

Sorry for the mis......?

--Elijah

 

[jasoncran]

the fact you choose to ignore the verse in the that the church council said about the shabat, as that is under the law of moses says that you choose a pretext over context.the law of moses wasn't given to Abraham, sir but to moses at horeb. Abraham didn't do shabat nor taught the children of isreal, they already did the circumcision before the Sinai experience and that chapter I quoted proved that.

This is going no-where.
Gen. 26:25 has God Christ stating a FACT...

[1] And there was a famine in the land, beside the first famine that was in the days of Abraham. And Isaac went unto Abimelech king of the Philistines unto Gerar.
[2] And the LORD appeared unto him, and said, Go not down into Egypt; dwell in the land which I shall tell thee of:
[3] Sojourn in this land, and I will be with thee, and will bless thee; for unto thee, and unto thy seed, I will give all these countries, and I will perform the oath which I sware unto Abraham thy father;
[4] And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;
[5] Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, [[[my commandments,]]] my statutes, and my laws.

--Elijah

when you have been allowed to see this fact.

3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name Jehovah was I not known to them.

that is exodus 6.

and yet Abraham did this. so whom is lying then? moses or Abraham or god?

And Abraham called the name of that place Jehovahjireh: as it is said to this day, In the mount of the LORD it shall be seen." – Genesis 22:14 (KJV)

ok when you do listen and realize that genesis was in fact written after the Sinai experience and with said bias to the Hebrews that were told the Name of the Lord then you will see why I say that

the word torah doesn't mean laws like you say but teachings. for that is what it does. it teaches you. the jews call the torah like a parent giving instruction to a child and that is how God see isreal.

"isreal is my firstborn"

Abraham was given a set of instructions. was it the torah as in ten commandments? why would the Hebrews need to know what they had already been told. they already circumcised,

Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God:
20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.

why then did the Jerusalem council the not tell the gentiles to do the shabat?

considering this?

But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.

uhm the law of moses is the torah! including the ten commandments. the jews were saying that they think they need to the feasts and the circumcision and the shabat, yet we know that early church had the tanach, so they knew the idea of sins was still the same.