What will happen to Christians who reject the Sabbath?

[Gary K]

Do we need a Levitical priest to lead the service ?
How about the robes and incense and such ?

Where are you going to find a temple? If you're going to get this absurd you might as well go all the way.

 

[donadams]

Do we need a Levitical priest to lead the service ?
How about the robes and incense and such ?

Not Levi that’s old covenant

But public worship in the new covenant requires a ordained priest of Jesus Christ according to the order of melchisedec!

Temple
Altar
Ark
Sacrifice
Etc

 

[Gary K]

Not Levi that’s old covenant

But public worship in the new covenant requires a ordained priest of Jesus Christ according to the order of melchisedec!

Temple
Altar
Ark
Sacrifice
Etc

Really? So where do you find a priest of that order? There is only one in existence that I know of and He's in the temple in heaven. Plus He has already made the all encompassing sacrifice for sin.

I take it you don't believe in public worship.

 

[donadams]

Really? So where do you find a priest of that order? There is only one in existence that I know of and He's in the temple in heaven. Plus He has already made the all encompassing sacrifice for sin.

I take it you don't believe in public worship.

Is Christ “high priest”?

 

[lastofall]

for me anyway I believe the Lord Jesus Christ when He was asked concerning Sabbath, asking Him, "Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath days"? Jesus answered, "It is lawful to do well on the Sabbath days". (Matthew 12:10 + 12)
Again the Lord tells us, saying, "The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath".
We were not made (created) for the day of rest, while there is still doing well to do.

 

[Hopeful 2]

Where are you going to find a temple? If you're going to get this absurd you might as well go all the way.

You won't find a temple.
We of the NT are the temple, in which the Holy Ghost resides.
Our "robes" are the cleanliness of Christ, into whom we have been baptized.

 

[Hopeful 2]

Not Levi that’s old covenant

My point exactly.

But public worship in the new covenant requires a ordained priest of Jesus Christ according to the order of melchisedec!

Scripture please.

Temple
Altar
Ark
Sacrifice
Etc

I have no idea what this is in reference to ???

 

[donadams]

Where are you going to find a temple? If you're going to get this absurd you might as well go all the way.

The mystical body of Christ is a temple!

 

[donadams]

My point exactly.

Scripture please.

I have no idea what this is in reference to ???

T

 

[donadams]

Propitiatory Sacrifice of Christ!

Jn 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

1 Jn 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

1 Jn 4:10 Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.

 

[donadams]

There are two new covenant priesthoods: priesthood in scripture is plural.

“Jesus Christ is high priest of the (ministerial) order of melchisedec”.
acts 10:14
heb 5:1
heb 8:1
heb 8:3


Ministerial priesthood: “apostles & their successors, and those they ordain” “low priests” under the authority of Christ the “high priest”!

With priestly ministry:
Mk 3:14 “ordained”
Matt 22:14 Jn 15:16 “chosen” “ordained”
Jn 20:21 “sent by Christ with His authority”
Jn 20:23 “power to forgive sins”
Acts 1:8 “anointing with power”
acts 1:15-26 “ministry / bishop”
Acts 2:38-39 “administered sacraments”
acts 14:23 “ordained”
Acts 16:4 “ordained “
Rom 15:16 “minister / sanctify”
1 cor 9:14 “ordained”
1 Tim 2:7 “ordained”
1 Tim 3:1-2 “bishop”
1 Tim 4:14 “priest” “priestly ministry”
Phil 1:1 “bishops deacons”
James 5:14 “anointing with oil”

The ministerial priesthood acts in “the person of Christ” so it is Christ who acts thru them vicariously.
2 cor 2:10 Jn 15:5 eph 5:24


Royal priesthood: “baptized members of Jesus Christ”
1 pet 2:5-9


Christ reformed the mosaic covenant into the new and eternal covenant!

The new covenant was a reformation of the mosaic covenant so it has many similarities. Heb 9:10

Old Israel:

Ex 19:6
And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.

New Israel:

1 pet 2:5-9
5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.

6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.

7 Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,

8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.

9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;

Gal 4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

27 For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband.

28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.

Gal 6:16
And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God.

Apostles / bishops were ordained priests by Jesus Christ at the last supper: 1 cor 11:24-26
do this in memory of me. offer this in memory of me, the Passover was a sacrifice. Ex 12:27 1 cor 5:6-8

Worship:

Adoration: rev 7-12
Propitiatory reparation: Jn 1:29
rom 3:25 1 Jn 2:2 1 Jn 4:10
1 Jn 2:2 1 Jn 4:10
Thanksgiving: Phil 4:6
Petition: Phil 4:6

Spirit and truth:

John 4:24
God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
Offering the eternal sacrifice of Christ for the salvation of all men!

Christ is Eternal priest:

Heb 7:17 For he testifieth, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.

Christ is High priest:

Heb 8:1 Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens;

Low priests / priesthood:

There must be low priests in the same order for a high priest to be over them. And the word in scripture “priesthood” is plural.

Jn 20:21-23 apostles have authority to forgive sins.

 

[donadams]

1 cor 5:7 …For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:

8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

Malachi 1:11

For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down of the same my name shall be great among the Gentiles; and in every place incense shall be offered unto my name, and a pure offering: for my name shall be great among the heathen, saith the Lord of hosts.

A pure offering:
A Clean oblation:
An Unbloody sacrifice:

 

[donadams]

New covenant Temple: (the body of Christ) Jn 2:19
Ark of the new covenant: (Mary) Lk 1:35
Altar: (the cross) heb 13:10
New covenant Sacrifice: (the eternal propitiatory sacrifice of Christ)
Acts 20:28 Eph 2:13 heb 9
heb 10:19
Priesthood: (the new covenant priesthood of Christ) heb 7:17
High priest: (Christ is high priest) heb 8:1
Low priests (the order of melchisedec) heb 7:17
Golden censor with incense: rev 8:3

 

[Hopeful 2]

T

Where is there any scripture saying I need an ordained priest in order to worship God ?
The priesthood died with the temple and all the other facets of the OT.

 

[donadams]

Where is there any scripture saying I need an ordained priest in order to worship God ?
The priesthood died with the temple and all the other facets of the OT.

Christ is not a priest?
Christ is not high priest?

Is that your statement?

 

[Gary K]

Is Christ “high priest”?

But He's not on this earth and you don't have a Jewish temple any more. That's why your comment is a fallacy.

 

[Gary K]

New covenant Temple: (the body of Christ) Jn 2:19
Ark of the new covenant: (Mary) Lk 1:35
Altar: (the cross) heb 13:10
New covenant Sacrifice: (the eternal propitiatory sacrifice of Christ)
Acts 20:28 Eph 2:13 heb 9
heb 10:19
Priesthood: (the new covenant priesthood of Christ) heb 7:17
High priest: (Christ is high priest) heb 8:1
Low priests (the order of melchisedec) heb 7:17
Golden censor with incense: rev 8:3

Your fallacy is showing again with your next to the last comment. There are no low order priests any more. The last priest of the order of Melchesedic was Jesus.

 

[Gary K]

Is Christ “high priest”?

Yea, but He;s no longer on this earth.

 

[donadams]

But He's not on this earth and you don't have a Jewish temple any more. That's why your comment is a fallacy.

We’re not Jewish but Christian
The body of Christ is a Temple!
Jn 2:21

 

[donadams]

Your fallacy is showing again with your next to the last comment. There are no low order priests any more. The last priest of the order of Melchesedic was Jesus.

You can’t be a high priest unless you have authority over lower priests of the same order!

Ministerial priesthood: “apostles & their successors, and those they ordain” “low priests” under the authority of Christ the “high priest”!

With priestly ministry:
Mk 3:14 “ordained”
Matt 22:14 Jn 15:16 “chosen” “ordained”
Jn 20:21 “sent by Christ with His authority”
Jn 20:23 “power to forgive sins”
Acts 1:8 “anointing with power”
acts 1:15-26 “ministry / bishop”
Acts 2:38-39 “administered sacraments”
acts 14:23 “ordained”
Acts 16:4 “ordained “
Rom 15:16 “minister / sanctify”
1 cor 9:14 “ordained”
1 Tim 2:7 “ordained”
1 Tim 3:1-2 “bishop”
1 Tim 4:14 “priest” “priestly ministry”
Phil 1:1 “bishops deacons”
James 5:14 “anointing with oil”

The ministerial priesthood acts in “the person of Christ” so it is Christ who acts thru them vicariously.
2 cor 2:10 Jn 15:5 eph 5:24