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When Did Jesus Rise ?

Lewis

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WHEN DID JESUS RISE FROM THE DEAD?

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The tradition of a Sunday Morning resurrection is very much a part of modern Christianity. Most everyone thinks of a Sunday morning resurrection. After all the Sunrise services seem to imply that this is when Jesus arose from the dead. But Jesus said, "For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth (Matthew 12:40)." "Three days and three nights" means seventy-two hours. Jesus defined the length of a day in John 11:9. Our Lord said, "Are there not twelve hours in a day?" Well, if there are twelve in a day, then there are twelve hours in a night. And therefore, three days and three nights would be 72 hours.

If Jesus was placed in the grave at sundown as the Scriptures teach. See Luke 23:54; "And that day was the preparation, and the Sabbath (Passover Sabbath was Thursday on that week) drew on." Then His resurrection had to be seventy-two hours later at sundown. If you accept a Sunday morning resurrection then Christ stayed in the grave for three days and four nights. Not three days and three nights as Jesus said.

Have you ever wondered how Jesus Christ could be crucified on Friday and be resurrected on Sunday after being buried for three days? Well, that's impossible! You cannot squeeze three days between Friday and Sunday. By no stretch of the imagination is it possible to stretch the period from Friday evening to Sunday morning into "three days and three nights."

We believe that Jesus Christ died on a Wednesday. We do not believe that Jesus died on Friday. Let's turn to Matthew 12:40, and notice Christ's own prophecy pertaining to His death, burial, and resurrection. "For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth (Matthew 12:40)." "Three days and three nights" means seventy-two hours. Jesus defined the length of a day in John 11:9. Our Lord said, "Are there not twelve hours in a day?" Well, if there are twelve hours in a day, then there are twelve hours in a night. And therefore, three days and three nights would be 72 hours. Anything less than 72 hours would not fulfill the prophecy of Jonah or the words of Jesus Christ.

Perhaps you're wondering why the vast majority of Christians accept the Friday-to-Sunday burial of Christ if it is wrong? The only answer that can be given is tradition. "Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. (Colossians 2:8)." This is a tradition not taught in the Bible. Ash Wednesday and Lent also are not in the Bible. Even the word "Easter" is pagan, and it is not found in the Bible. In the King James Version the word "Easter" does occur in Acts 12:4, but is a mistranslation. The word "Easter" comes from the word "Ish-tar" and is the same as Ashtaroth, a pagan deity. We celebrate the resurrection of Christ again from the dead.

In order to explain the Good Friday tradition, the proponents say that Christ was buried during parts of three days and nights. That is Christ was buried for part of Friday, part of Saturday, and a part of Sunday.

Sometimes people ask, "Didn't the Jews count part of a day a whole day or part of a night as a whole night?" Whenever you have the expression "day and night" mentioned together in the Hebrew Scriptures, it always means a full day and a full night. For example, "And the evening and the morning were the first day (Genesis 1:8)"; "And the evening and morning were the second day (Genesis 1:13)"; "And the evening and morning were the third day (Genesis 1:13)"; and so on. Other examples are Esther 4:16; 5:1; II Samuel 30:12-13 and Jonah 1:17, where you will find the expression "three days and three nights," and in every instance it means full days and full nights - not part of a day and part of a night.

Let's see what the scriptures teach us as we look at an example in the life of Christ. The Scripture says, "And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungered (Matthew 4:2)." Jesus fasted forty days and forty nights. If we say, as some do, that "three days and three nights" does not mean "three days and three nights", then we must also say that "forty days and forty nights" does not mean "forty days and forty nights." Where do we stop? Do we say that we really can't be sure about anything? Of course not! We believe the Bible to be literal.

Part of the confusion has come from verses like John 19:31. This verse says, "The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the Sabbath day (for that Sabbath day was an high day), besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away." The Sabbath in John 19:31 is not the regular Saturday Sabbath. It was the Passover Sabbath, which occurred on Thursday of the crucifixion week. Note that John 19:31 says, "For that Sabbath day was an high day." If it were talking of the Saturday Sabbath, then Christ would have been crucified on Friday. All the feast days God gave to Israel were considered Sabbaths though they did not fall on Saturday. Jesus was crucified on the preparation (Wednesday) of the Sabbath (Passover Sabbath) which was Thursday.

Now at what time of the day did Jesus die? It was around three in the afternoon on Wednesday. "And it was about the sixth hour, and there was darkness over all the earth until the ninth hour. And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: And having said thus, he gave up the ghost (Luke 23:44-46)." When it says the ninth hour, it means the ninth hour since the break of day. In other words, it was three o'clock in the afternoon. Jesus was taken away from the cross and hurriedly buried the same afternoon before sundown or 6:00 p.m.

Now remember that the Jewish day always begins at sundown or at about 6:oo p.m. Our day begins at midnight, but the Jewish day began at sunset. In Leviticus 23:32, the Lord said, "From even unto even shall ye celebrate your Sabbath."

If you count 72 hours from late Wednesday afternoon at around 6:00 p.m., then Jesus would have been in the tomb until late Saturday evening at about 6:00 p.m.

So, a Sunday morning resurrection is not what the Bible teaches. We believe that Jesus was resurrected on Saturday evening at about 6:00 p.m. Jesus was placed in the tomb at around 6:00 p.m. on Wednesday. Seventy-two hours later would be at around 6:00 p.m. on Saturday, exactly when the first day began (Sunday). Even at this hour the Jewish Sunday night begins at Saturday night at 6:00 p.m.

When the women arrived at the tomb early Sunday morning, Jesus was already gone. The Gospel is summed up in I Corinthians 15:3-4, "...Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures and that He was buried, and that He rose again the third day according to the Scriptures." Those who arrived early Sunday morning simply discovered an empty tomb. The angel said, "He is not here, for He is risen (Luke 24:6)." So the discovery occurred in the morning. Not the resurrection.

One objection to a Wednesday crucifixion is found in Luke 24:21, which says, "But we trusted that it had been He which should have redeemed Israel: and beside all this, today is the third day since these things were done." This conversation takes place on Sunday, the day of resurrection. The answer is found in the word "since." Counting from this verse, Sunday is the third day, Saturday the second day, Friday is the first day SINCE the Passover. The Thursday Passover (Jewish reckoning) had its night on what we would call Wednesday night and twilight of that night, meaning between 3:00 p.m. and 6:00 p.m., is when Christ was crucified. The twilight of Thursday afternoon would have counted as the twilight of Friday night, which began at 6:00 p.m. by Jewish reckoning. So we see there is no conflict.

The real issue is not really what day was Christ crucified on, but the need to be careful Bible students, lest we miss what the Bible teaches about how to be saved. We know that nothing could wash away our sins but the blood of Jesus Christ. If you have not trusted Jesus Christ and His shed blood as your only means of reaching heaven, then do so now.
 
Jesus rising on a Sunday has always bothered me' because if you read the Bible right it does not add up to Sunday. I have not talked about this on this board in about 6 years. But I was thinking about it and decided to give it a fresh look. And I sitll don't see Sunday as the day.
 
What? It's only New Year's Eve and we're already debating the timing of Easter? I didn't expect that for a couple of months yet, but okay...

Besides the problem with counting 3 days and 3 nights, there is at least one other problem I know of with a Sunday morning resurrection. All the annual festivals described in the books of Moses point to Christ in some way. Passover points to his crucifixion, and the Feast of First Fruits points to his resurrection. The Feast of First Fruits was on the day after the weekly Sabbath during the Days of Unleavened Bread. Just before the end of the Sabbath, the priests would go into a nearby barley field and wait for the sun to set. Once they had confirmed that the sun was set and the Sabbath had ended, they would harvest one sheaf of barley and take it back to the temple. The following morning they would thresh and winnow it and bake two loaves of bread from it, which they would offer as a wave offering.

I believe Jesus rose at the same time the priests were harvesting the barley. The following morning, he told Mary "Do not thou touch me, for I have not yet ascended to my Father" (John 20:17). The reason he said this was that the time for offering the wave offering had not yet come. He would have gone to his Father to present himself as the First Fruits offering at the same time that offering was being made in the Temple, a few hours after he spoke to Mary. If Jesus rose early on Sunday morning, none of this could fit.

The TOG​
 
[QUOTEWe my have the day off but Jesus did rise after three days, this we do not have wrong.][/QUOTE]
yeah but it wasn't on a Sunday
 
Well with your definition through Scripture of the "day," why wouldn't this work? Unless you're saying the 3rd day ENDS on Saturday at 6pm? Because if it would start there, then a Sunday morning resurrection would still make sense, because a day consisted of the evening and the following morning.

Christmas is also probably not when Jesus was born...does that matter?
 
Navigator did you read the article and checked out the math ? No and it does not matter when he was born' but this is also a site of study' we learn here and it is good to know as much as you can. Some here will go on to preach like me' so it is good to know all that you can.
 
I did but I think I'm just confusing myself. haha. Regardless of the math, though, does it matter what day of the week? I know there was a comment at the bottom about it being more about being "careful Bible students," which I totally agree with, but I don't think the day of the week is something to be "careful" with. The main point is that Jesus was dead and rose after 3 days and nights.

Can I ask why this bothers you so much?
 
you are correct His rising is our foundation. But also it is important to know much truth' God designed us to be curious.
 
I did but I think I'm just confusing myself. haha. Regardless of the math, though, does it matter what day of the week? I know there was a comment at the bottom about it being more about being "careful Bible students," which I totally agree with, but I don't think the day of the week is something to be "careful" with. The main point is that Jesus was dead and rose after 3 days and nights.

Can I ask why this bothers you so much?

I know this question wasn't directed at me, and I can only answer for myself, but I'd like to answer anyway. There are two things involved here - the timing (number of days) and the exact day of the week. Both are important to me, for a number of reasons, mostly having to do with prophesy. When asked for a sign to prove he was who he said, Jesus answered:

An evil and adulterous generation seeks for a sign, but no sign will be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah. For just as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. (Matt. 12:39-40 ESV)​

Jesus himself said that the only sign we would have that absolutely proves that he is who he claimed to be is that he will be in the heart of the earth 3 days and 3 nights. If Jesus was crucified on a Friday and resurrected on Sunday, then that's only 1 day (Saturday) and 2 nights (Friday night and Saturday night). Even if we assume, as many seem to do, that Jews in the first century didn't know how to tell time and count anything from a few seconds (it was still dark when the women came to the tomb) to a few minutes as a whole day, then that still gives us only 3 days (most likely less than an hour Friday, all day Saturday and anywhere from a few seconds to a few minutes Sunday) and two nights (Friday night and Saturday night). We're still one night short of fulfilling the only sign Jesus said we have that proves who he is.

As I said earlier, if Jesus rose at any time other than close to the end of the weekly Sabbath and beginning of the first day of the week (could have been either side of sunset), then he didn't fulfill the prophecies inherent in the Feast of First Fruits.

So, both the timing between the crucifixion and the resurrection as well as the actual day of the week are important.

The TOG​
 
I don't see the need to convert 3 days into exactly 72hrs. I also believe it is important that He not be raised on what was considered a Sabbath, simply for the symbolism with regards to the Law. In other words, from 3-6pm Wednesday until some time between 6pm Saturday and 6am Sunday.
 
I agree that having exactly 72 hours and not a minute more or less is not important. I also agree that Jesus probably would have "rested" in the tomb on the Sabbath. As I see it, what fits best with prophesy is the resurrection taking place shortly after sunset on what we would call Saturday evening. That's when the first fruits of the barley were being harvested, and that's probably when the first fruits from the dead (I Cor. 15:20) rose from the dead.

The TOG​
 
I will say this' He did not rise on a Sunday, and people are openly being fooled to think that He was.
 
[QUOTEWe my have the day off but Jesus did rise after three days, this we do not have wrong.]
yeah but it wasn't on a Sunday[/quote]

Jesus was crucified on Friday.
Friday evening the Sabbath started.
He rose on the third Day. Sunday.
The Lord 's day is Sunday.

JLB
 
I agree that having exactly 72 hours and not a minute more or less is not important. I also agree that Jesus probably would have "rested" in the tomb on the Sabbath. As I see it, what fits best with prophesy is the resurrection taking place shortly after sunset on what we would call Saturday evening. That's when the first fruits of the barley were being harvested, and that's probably when the first fruits from the dead (I Cor. 15:20) rose from the dead.

The TOG​

That makes sense since the evening and morning are the first Day.
 
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Night, Day, Night, Day, Night, rise ON the third Day. Some 12 hours short of a literal 72 hour 3 days and 3 nights, but it fits all descriptions in the Bible including Luke 24:21.
 
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Night, Day, Night, Day, Night, rise ON the third Day. Some 12 hours short of a literal 72 hour 3 days and 3 nights, but it fits all descriptions in the Bible including Luke 24:21.

When the women came to the tomb, it was still dark and Jesus had already risen (John 20:1). There's no way you can count Sunday as the third day.

The TOG​
 
Sunday for the Jews began at sunset the evening before. It was the third day.

Look again at the chart and count back to the day the people on the road to Emmaus referred to.
 
Sunday for the Jews began at sunset the evening before. It was the third day.

Look again at the chart and count back to the day the people on the road to Emmaus referred to.

But doesn't your chart show Him crucified on the Passover?
 
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