When Does God's Law Take Presedence?

[Rollo Tamasi]

I think of the Inquisition.
The law said become Roman Catholic or die.
Many chose to obey God and die.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

...the clergy person is bound to be subject to these laws. However, for the clergy person to marry this couple would mean denying God's premise that marriage is between one man and one woman. Which is the correct choice for this clergy person to make?

End your official recognition by the government as clergy.

Other than for tax purposes, I can't think of any reason why the pastoral leadership of the church has to be known and recognized as such outside of the church. Especially when the gov't starts leveraging it against them.

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

Ah yes, tax purposes.

 

[jasoncran]

you could but then you would have to ask more in tithes as you must pay in taxes for what you buy. but that I think isn't a bridge we will cross. I posted what the dod about the gay marriages issue for the chaplains.

 

[Sparkey]

The marriage issue is an example of a choice: following what is known in the heart as God's Will over man's wishes. It really doesn't matter if those wishes are voted on or made official or just overt. Consider the mundane choice. Our government calls children over eighteen years of age "consenting adults".

When does God take precedence?

 

[jasoncran]

The marriage issue is an example of a choice: following what is known in the heart as God's Will over man's wishes. It really doesn't matter if those wishes are voted on or made official or just overt. Consider the mundane choice. Our government calls children over eighteen years of age "consenting adults".

in jewish thought even at the time of Christ a man was a man at age 13 after he recited his torah. is that what we should do? not that 18 makes on mature or that its based on science.

 

[Sparkey]

Jason? I don't know how to respond to some of your statements. Pardon me.

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

I think Jason is right.
When we reach an age when we understand and can make our own decisions in life, that's when God takes precedence.

 

[jasoncran]

Jason? I don't know how to respond to some of your statements. Pardon me.

the idea of an 18 year old as an adult is less then a century old. in the both the Greco-Roman world and the jewish nation boys were men at age 13, they couldn't vote and decide important matters thus they had limited rights and didn't earn full rights until parenthood or 30.

 

[jasoncran]

I have been overseas, in Afghanistan a boy age 13 to as young as six have been known to sell drugs,women, and also try to kill you.

 

[Sparkey]

Okay, I have no doubt that what you are saying is fact but difficult is encountered when I try to tie what you're saying back into the conversation that WIP's question concerned itself over. The moral dilemma that arises while considering following Governmental Authority or not especially when there are no clear and distinct lines drawn.

Sometimes it is indeed a slippery slope.

 

[jasoncran]

Okay, I have no doubt that what you are saying is fact but difficult is encountered when I try to tie what you're saying back into the conversation that WIP's question concerned itself over. The moral dilemma that arises while considering following Governmental Authority or not especially when there are no clear and distinct lines drawn.

Sometimes it is indeed a slippery slope.

the comment you made was about what is an adult in the eyes of god. see post 25. the fact is that in town with the famous hunt vs smith case, the lesbian teen/adult relationship was indeed ok in some eyes in that the teenage year of 14 is the age of consent to some. in the roman days boys were allowed to be lovers of men at that age. that is what paul is damning in romans 1. now then. carry on. pedastery will come in some form after polyamory and legalized prostution