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[AirDancer]

Just as a note of reminder here, and is not directed at any particular person: Foundation of Faith forum is a non-debate forum.

 

[Brother Mike]

He's saying the exact opposite actually.

What do you believe "ye might well bear with him" means?

To me it sounds like Paul is afraid they might, if they're not careful, put up with and accept another Jesus, another spirit, another gospel. I don't see how that can be interpreted any other way.
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No, it says what I said it says.......... Corintithians did fine, it was the Church in Galatians that blew it.

2Co 11:3-4 YLT 3 and I fear, lest, as the serpent did beguile Eve in his subtilty, so your minds may be corrupted from the simplicity that is in the Christ; 4 for if, indeed, he who is coming doth preach another Jesus whom we did not preach, or another Spirit ye receive which ye did not receive, or other good news which ye did not accept--well were ye bearing it ,

2Co 11:4 amp For you seem readily to endure it] [/B]if a man comes and preaches another Jesus than the One we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the [Spirit] you [once] received or a different gospel from the one you [then] received and welcomed; you tolerate [all that] well enough!

2Co 11:19 amp For you readily and gladly bear with the foolish, since you are so smart and wise yourselves!

Corninth had bad guys come and preach things that were not right, the church did fine. Paul said that because the Gospel is so simple, He had fear Satan could bring something that sounded more complex and believable. The Church shut them out though.

Remember Paul warned that church that Satan can appear as an angle of light even.

It was the Church in Galatians that started back in the practice of the law.

I don't watch horror flick, I haven't watch much of those. I mentioned the flood, the judgement of the Egyptians where by babies were slain.. what did the baby do that he was slain by the LORD himself? you said he wasn't innocent, and yet you said a child couldn't be held for the actions of another. yet the angel of the Lord did take them. so how can that be?

so how does baby, one day, one year, and up to the time they still don't know what is sin be judged? you said god doesn't slay his own. funny. moses died. he sinned, we all sin. no man will ever die sinless. yet god has ordained a meeting. by your argument if we obey, we simply wont die!

It's not like I have not seen some of your other post, so I have to wonder if I am wasting my time here.

It was no Angel of the Lord that destroyed the first born of Eqypt, it was the destroyer whom God kept watch to make sure he did not wipe everyone out.

God don't kill babies, and Babies not under the Parents covenant with God are subject to destruction. Hose 4:6.

Remember God said choose life, choose blessing that your seed may live? It's up to the parents, not the child.

If God appointed a specific time to die, then I would not be able to post lots of scriptures God gives us to extend our life and see many good days.

We have to die, everyone is appointed to die. That is not like in a specific time thing, it just means someday, we have to die.

Death and life are in the power of the Tongue. We decided to live long and do all we are called to do, or we go crosswise with scripture, speak death and stupid things and cut life short.

Why did it say God killed David's baby? God did have a part, but it was not God that killed the baby.

Why does it say God caused David to number the troops, and in other book it says Satan caused David........... Same reason it says God killed David's baby.

Go figure it out.

Steer away from this no fault reliegion where everything is God's fault, and we have no responsibilty on our part to walk by faith and believe what God said. God is never at fault, we are....... And there are tons of scriptures to believe that will get your needs met, Healed, blessed, favored, and full of God's wisdom.

Now if you ever seen God keep you and protect you, then that does not mean God just decideds to stop doing that someday. He never changes, we change on Him.

 

[Brother Mike]

Just as a note of reminder here, and is not directed at any particular person: Foundation of Faith forum is a non-debate forum.

Nobody is debating, we are getting scriptures sorted out. As you know we can all be saying the same thing, but just not made the connections yet. Debating is saying your wrong, and bla, bla, bla............ We are walking through this.

 

[Gary]

No, it says what I said it says..........

Okay.
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[Brother Mike]

Okay.
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Gary, I am not saying false teachers are good and not to blame. They get their reward.

A person to believe a false teacher though, has itchy ears, there is a reason in their heart they believe the false Teacher. People like to hear things that appeal to flesh, and their understanding.

Those that are sold out to God, to do the will of God, Jesus said they will know sound doctrine.
Just like the Church of Corninth shut out the messengers of Satan who can appear as a angel of light. Paul was concerend, but comended them on not buying into the false teaching.

Galatians, started up keeping the law again. Paul said, "Who has Bewitched you."
IN other words, what happened to your brains and thinking to make you want to start up practicing the law again.

Something was wrong to start for them to start up the practice of the Law.

I was working with a Apostolic Pastor, He had a membership of 15 for Sunday morning, church was empty. He could not figure out why. He thought if He painted the door a different color and moved to a better location, then things would get better.

It did not take a rocket scientist to figure out why.The bondage doctrine they preached, along with their "ONENESS" doctrine was way off. I bared with him.

He even suggested I might not be saved, because I was not baptisted in the name of Jesus. You can't be saved if your baptised in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

I said, I speak in tongues, now How can I not be saved, and speak in tongues........ He did not know.

Now, I went to God to help this guy and asked the Lord what it would take to increase membership.

The Lord said this to me............ "Even if I helped change this church around with sound doctrine and filled the seats, those coming here would leave to find what they want to hear. All churches are like that, if every Chruch only preached sound doctrine, that would only start just as many churches to hold those who can not bare sound doctrine."

I realized it was not what was being preached, but the hearers of what was being preached. Chruches that preach carnal things like Homosexuality is good, fill up with Homosexuals. If you change that, then all the Homosexuals leave and you have a empty church until those who really love God and are seeking truth come in.

I am not disagreeing with you, I am saying there is more to it than just the one giving the false message.

Be blessed.