When Jesus turned the water into wine, is it reasonable to believe the water tasted like wine?

SyrianMariam · Apr 19, 2023

Mungo said:
This is all explained in the thread I started - Transubstantiation

But basically The substance of the bread changes into the substance of Christ's body but the accidents of the bread remain and it is those we perceive with our sight and taste. Similarly with the wine.

Also...why not turn the wine into literal blood? Since your Chruch is the TRUE Church, the Church of Christ Himself, correct? Christ could turn water into wine. Why can't your superior priesthood turn wine into blood?

jaybo · Apr 19, 2023

for_his_glory said:
God’s word can be literal and Spiritual as in the case of the wedding in Cana. The wedding represents the Spiritual being the union between Jesus and his bride whom are the children of God through repentance. Jesus brings his disciples to the wedding to show them the wonders of God through the renewal of his Spirit. I want you to see the relationship we have between the old self in the flesh and the new Spiritual rebirth in Christ. We are called the bride of Christ and I could not find any better example of this as in the story of the first wedding Jesus attended with his disciples, (Ref: John 2:1-11).

The word marriage represents our relationship with Jesus. We are called the bride of Christ which means when we ask Jesus into our life through repentance we become one in the Spirit that is in Christ and have communion with his life, death and resurrection. We are united with Jesus as one body that has been renewed through the Spirit that is God. We become as a bride to the bridegroom as we are joined together as one.

Matthew 9:15 And Jesus said unto them, Can the children of the bridechamber mourn, as long as the bridegroom is with them? But the days will come, when the bridegroom shall be taken from them, and then shall they fast.

Revelation 21:9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will show thee the bride, the Lamb's wife.

The word call means that we do not just happen to fall into a relationship with Jesus as we are called of God or predestined before the world began for Gods purpose and grace. Jesus and his disciples were called to the wedding in Canaan, John 2:1-11 to witness the testimony of Gods power and authority through the miracle of changing water into wine, which was Jesus first miracle. The water and the wine represent the word of God and his Spirit as a renewal of our body and soul through the salvation of Jesus.
(Jeremiah 1:5; 2Timothy 1:9; John 3:5)

Wanting wine meant the disciples wanted understanding of those things Jesus was teaching them as they could not understand with their carnal minds, but did know that Jesus was a prophet sent by God. When Jesus said to his mother my time has not come yet he was speaking of his death and resurrection. Spiritual understanding could not come until Jesus ascended unto the Father and the Holy Spirit that is the Spirit of God be brought down from heaven to open our Spiritual eyes and ears to understand those teachings of Jesus while he walked the earth with his disciples.
(Romans 8:5-8; John 14:26)

The waterpots in themselves are a Jewish tradition of placing these pots outside the wedding feast so everyone could wash their hands and feet before entering into the feast. The significance of there being six water pots of stone is that the number six represents the number of the beast or sinful nations that are being controlled by Satan using others to deceive man like he used a serpent to deceive Adam and Eve as Satan is a spirit that has no form and has to use whatever or whomever he can to work through to deceive man.

When Jesus asked the servants to fill the waterpots with water and then he changed the water into wine is a Spiritual representation of the water being the word of God and the wine being the Holy Spirit as it is only by the word of God and his Holy Spirit that we can see the kingdom of God through a renewed Spiritual rebirth through repentance.

The governor asked Jesus why was the good wine served last after everyone was already drunk as he could not understand such a thing. In the beginning man was pure and knew no sin until they allowed themselves to be deceived by Satan who used the serpent to deceive them thus the knowledge of sin was revealed to them and extended to all generations. The good wine (Gods Spirit come to flesh in Jesus) was sacrificed for the atonement of sin as through repentance we now have the Holy Spirit (Spirit of God – new wine) that renews our inner man through the word of God that we can now have life eternal with the father.
(Revelation 13:18; John 1:14; Colossians 3:5-14; Genesis 3:6-7)

This is a very fanciful, but not factual. You're reading too much into what the text says.

Mungo · Apr 19, 2023

SyrianMariam said:
Does your thread cover the history and process of transubstantiation?

Why ask?
You read the post since you commented immediately afterwards:

SyrianMariam said:
Thank you for posting this.

Mungo · Apr 19, 2023

SyrianMariam said:
Also...why not turn the wine into literal blood?

Because that would be offensive to our senses.

SyrianMariam said:
Since your Chruch is the TRUE Church, the Church of Christ Himself, correct? Christ could turn water into wine.

What is the relevance of this comment?

SyrianMariam said:
Why can't your superior priesthood turn wine into blood?

That's a rather aggressive remark.

Dorothy Mae · Apr 19, 2023

SyrianMariam said:
Did the water remain 'water-like' in its colour, taste, texture, consistency? Or did it become wine in all respects?

The people who drank it said it was the best WINE at the whole wedding. He said most people serve the worse wine towards the end but these people served the BEST wine at the end. God makes good wine...award wining.

Fastfredy0 · Apr 19, 2023