Where Are You?

[Deborah13]

You are not reading my statements in their context. But once more, Hussein is a Sunni name. I expect Arab Christians to have regional names, I would be stupid to expect anything else making your question here into a Rhetorical Question. they will not be named any form of Hussein however. Living in the region or living elsewhere but having knowledge of the regional implications, they do not name their children certain names.

How do you know that none of the Christians in the middle east do not come from a Sunni family background and have a Sunni name?

Arabia, the near east, is not a melting pot as is the US of A. Names to all Arabs and to all fundamental Jews define. As a child I was drilled on the meaning of my name, protector of the innocent, and so are Islamic believers and as I've been taught to understand, so do all peoples of the near east.

So what? Do you think children grow up to be what their names mean? Or are you saying that your parents brainwashed you into being a protector of the people?
As a child I knew what my name meant, it didn't make me want to keep my room organized nor does knowing that it is Hebrew make me want to be a judge or a bee, or sit under a palm tree, or learn more about God.....

Our customs are strange to all of the world and this causes much of the world wide hate for Americans and it explains why it is common for Central and South Americans to be called Americano is male and Americana if female but the US and Canadian Americans are known as Norte [pronounced [nor TA] Americano.

 

[th1b.taylor]

How do you know that none of the Christians in the middle east do not come from a Sunni family background and have a Sunni name?


So what? Do you think children grow up to be what their names mean? Or are you saying that your parents brainwashed you into being a protector of the people?
As a child I knew what my name meant, it didn't make me want to keep my room organized nor does knowing that it is Hebrew make me want to be a judge or a bee, or sit under a palm tree, or learn more about God.....

Deb,
I tried being polite and agreeable and you are doing your best to be contentious. I am perfectly fine that not everyone is like me and, sad to say but, those that intend to be disagreeable and must win have issues I'll pray for but God has not equipped me for dealing with this issue.

I pray God's blessing on you but this is over before it grows any more unGod like.

 

[Deborah13]

Deb,
I tried being polite and agreeable and you are doing your best to be contentious. I am perfectly fine that not everyone is like me and, sad to say but, those that intend to be disagreeable and must win have issues I'll pray for but God has not equipped me for dealing with this issue.

I pray God's blessing on you but this is over before it grows any more unGod like.

I don't see a discussion as a competition or a battle to be won or lost.
Sorry, that I could not understand your point.
Blessings to you as well.

 

[Willie T]

I don't see a discussion as a competition or a battle to be won or lost.
Sorry, that I could not understand your point.
Blessings to you as well.

Sadly, many people do. I think some people live for "being right", rather than, "informed."

 

[turnorburn]

Interesting. Do you have sources for the 2008 prediction?

i found this Jethro..

tob

 

[Deborah13]

i found this Jethro..

tob

That was an interesting video. Thank you for sharing it.
Do you think that if Obama tries to turn on Israel or use US troops against Israel that the American people and American military would not stand up against him?
Do you think that taxpayer dollars are being used to support Muslim terrorist organization?

 

[turnorburn]

Truthfully? none of us know how are taxes are being spent.
tob

 

[th1b.taylor]

That was an interesting video. Thank you for sharing it.
Do you think that if Obama tries to turn on Israel or use US troops against Israel that the American people and American military would not stand up against him?
Do you think that taxpayer dollars are being used to support Muslim terrorist organization?

I quit researching this before the 2012 election but I doubt there is any change and all he needs to do is to hold the US Troops out of the mess and as prophecy predicts in Ezekiel 36 through 39, God will defend Israel by Himself. Joel Rosenberg wrote a novel called The Ezekiel Option that in a most entertaining manor explains this option God uses when this happens. Anytime I mention the Ezekiel Option, I am speaking to this action and not to the novel.

 

[th1b.taylor]

Truthfully? none of us know how are taxes are being spent.
tob

Thank you for your time and effort TOB.

 

[jasonc]

Truthfully? none of us know how are taxes are being spent.
tob

i don't see us attacking isreal at this time funding hamas or Hezbollah for me to believe that would take more then this video. if isreal's leadership knew that. i think they would have withdrew themselves from us. they told us about our cuba embargo deal. they said it was stupid. cuba is very anti-isreal and has sent money to hamas and Hezbollah.

 

[Kathi]

Truthfully? none of us know how are taxes are being spent.
tob

Scary thought but true.

 

[Edward]

What you're basically saying is that the fact that he denies that he's a Muslim proves that he's a Muslim. That's the same kind of "logic" that is used in every conspiracy theory - "The government denies it, and that proves it's a conspiracy". Sorry, I don't buy that line of reasoning. If you don't have any actual evidence, then we'll have to agree to disagree. You go ahead and judge the man based on his past rather than what he says today, and I won't judge him at all, but leave it up to God.

The TOG​

So he's Christian because Wiki said he was? Ummm, I dunno how that is proof that he's Christian. At the bottom of the first page of this thread, is a video where Obama talks Islam all up...The horses mouth so to speak. It's worth a look.

It's pretty obvious that Barack Obama is not a Christian due to his actions, however, he could have been saved last night at his bedside, we don't know. It's improbable, but we don't know for sure.

I would hope that the man got saved and became Christian, however, a blurb in Wiki would be not enough to convince me. Let's not show him where we hide the provisions yet, lol.

 

[TOG]

So he's Christian because Wiki said he was?

I can't see into a man's heart and mind. If a man says he is a Christian and believes in the redemptive work of Jesus Christ, then I believe him.

Ummm, I dunno how that is proof that he's Christian. At the bottom of the first page of this thread, is a video where Obama talks Islam all up...The horses mouth so to speak. It's worth a look.

putting together a bunch of 2 second clips cut out of the middle of sentences and taken completely out of context doesn't prove anything.

It's pretty obvious that Barack Obama is not a Christian due to his actions, however, he could have been saved last night at his bedside, we don't know. It's improbable, but we don't know for sure.

Because he's the president, the media is watching Obama's every move, and every time he does or says something that they interpret as negative, it's on the front page. Could your walk with Christ stand up to that kind of scrutiny? Do all of your actions prove that you are a Christian, or would it be just as "obvious" that you're not a Christian if we looked close enough? I know I wouldn't want people examining my life as closely as Obama's is.

I would hope that the man got saved and became Christian, however, a blurb in Wiki would be not enough to convince me. Let's not show him where we hide the provisions yet, lol.

And a few 2 second clips isn't enough to convince me.

The TOG​

 

[Deborah13]

i don't see us attacking isreal at this time funding hamas or Hezbollah for me to believe that would take more then this video. if isreal's leadership knew that. i think they would have withdrew themselves from us. they told us about our cuba embargo deal. they said it was stupid. cuba is very anti-isreal and has sent money to hamas and Hezbollah.

Israel's intelligence and security is very likely the best in the world. I rather doubt that they would allow us to have a radar facility in their country either if they believed our military is working for the other side. That would just be crazy.

 

[jasonc]

Israel's intelligence and security is very likely the best in the world. I rather doubt that they would allow us to have a radar facility in their country either if they believed our military is working for the other side. That would just be crazy.

thus why im a bit skeptical. remember fox news is a pro religious right site. and well didn't we have their parent company do something most anti-semetic? the massad . victory by deception.

 

[Deborah13]

I can't see into a man's heart and mind. If a man says he is a Christian and believes in the redemptive work of Jesus Christ, then I believe him.

I can't say that I believe him but I not about to call him a liar either. And I'm not about to claim that he is a Muslim either.

putting together a bunch of 2 second clips cut out of the middle of sentences and taken completely out of context doesn't prove anything.

From those snippets I heard a politician walking around in Arab robes, holding the hand of a Saudi prince, and kissing his cheek.
As far as him bowing, he bowed to the leader of Japan as well. It's a custom in the east, it does not signify that on the world stage they are above you. But that you are in their country, where they are the leader, so you follow their customs.

Because he's the president, the media is watching Obama's every move, and every time he does or says something that they interpret as negative, it's on the front page. Could your walk with Christ stand up to that kind of scrutiny? Do all of your actions prove that you are a Christian, or would it be just as "obvious" that you're not a Christian if we looked close enough? I know I wouldn't want people examining my life as closely as Obama's is.



And a few 2 second clips isn't enough to convince me.

The TOG​

 

[jasonc]

I can't say that I believe him but I not about to call him a liar either. And I'm not about to claim that he is a Muslim either.


From those snippets I heard a politician walking around in Arab robes, holding the hand of a Saudi prince, and kissing his cheek.
As far as him bowing, he bowed to the leader of Japan as well. It's a custom in the east, it does not signify that on the world stage they are above you. But that you are in their country, where they are the leader, so you follow their customs.

yet the Japanese pm didn't bow first. i don't want to derail with that custom of bowing. if were to greet you, i would bow really low and then you lower and i lower until we are both on the ground. usually that is done with something that is said in a manner of thanks. one is thanking the other and the giver is thanking the receiver for allowing him to serve. in the case of Obama, i don't think they go that far but the pm didn't return the bow. which would be an insult if he didn't extend his hand as in a handshake

 

[Deborah13]

So he's Christian because Wiki said he was? Ummm, I dunno how that is proof that he's Christian. At the bottom of the first page of this thread, is a video where Obama talks Islam all up...The horses mouth so to speak. It's worth a look.

It's pretty obvious that Barack Obama is not a Christian due to his actions, however, he could have been saved last night at his bedside, we don't know. It's improbable, but we don't know for sure.

What are you thinking of that he has done that is not Christian like, in his personal life since he says he became a Christian.
Because remember as President he does not just represent Christians but all the people in the country.

I would hope that the man got saved and became Christian, however, a blurb in Wiki would be not enough to convince me. Let's not show him where we hide the provisions yet, lol.

 

[Deborah13]

yet the Japanese pm didn't bow first. i don't want to derail with that custom of bowing. if were to greet you, i would bow really low and then you lower and i lower until we are both on the ground. usually that is done with something that is said in a manner of thanks. one is thanking the other and the giver is thanking the receiver for allowing him to serve. in the case of Obama, i don't think they go that far but the pm didn't return the bow. which would be an insult if he didn't extend his hand as in a handshake

Is it normally the custom for the PM to bow in these circumstances?
No handshake, kind'a like throwing a shoe. I don't know that Ruth threw her shoe but she certainly took it off and gave it to him in some way.

 

[jasonc]

Is it normally the custom for the PM to bow in these circumstances?
No handshake, kind'a like throwing a shoe. I don't know that Ruth threw her shoe but she certainly took it off and gave it to him in some way.

he would bow first but he didn't. he was respecting our customs. and Obama didn't honor that. that could be taken as an insult.