Heidi said:
We have told you; John 1:1-2, John 1;14, Hebrews 4:12, 2 Timothy 3:16, etc., but you refuse to listen to us.
Heidi,
You have told me nothing with these verses, except that you may be an idolater because it appears you worship the Bible... Have you actually read them? Do ANY of them discuss that the Bible is the sole authority for Christians?
Let's look at some of these so-called "proofs"...
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with the God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with the God. John 1:1-2
What on earth does that have to do with the Sacred Scriptures? Are you joking? The "Word" is Jesus Christ HIMSELF, not written Scriptures! Are you suggesting that the Bible was "with God and the Bible was God". Heidi, do you worship the Bible?
John 1:14, same comments!!!
For the word of God [is] alive and efficient and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and [is] a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. Heb 4:12
Heidi, have you read the next verse???
Neither is there any created thing that is not manifested in his presence, but all things [are] naked and opened unto the eyes of him of whom we speak. Heb 4:13
Obviously, the Scriptures are speaking of the WORD of God, the Son of God HIMSELF, not the bible! "...all things are ...open unto the eyes of him of whom we speak"!!!
Does the bible have eyes? These verses are speaking of a living Being, not a book.
All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works. 2 Tim 3:16-17
Where does it say or imply ANYTHING about the Scriptures are the SOLE AUTHORITY for Christians? Again, it says PROFITABLE... Lots of things are PROFITABLE to perfect Christians. Prayer and almsgiving are profitable for building virtue. Suffering and denying of self is profitable.
Not only does this Scripture fail your doctrinal assumption, it doesn't even tell us WHAT IS Scriptures! In this particular account, Paul is speaking of the Old Testament, the Scriptures that Timothy knew AS A YOUTH! If anything, Protestants prove too much by begging people to accept this verse as the verse that tells us that the Bible is the sole authority for Christians. To follow it, we'd have to cut out the New Testament!!
Really, I am asking you to provide a verse. ONE verse is all I ask for. SOMETHING that tells me that the Scriptures ALONE was God's intent to train Christians and to reveal His doctrine to mankind. All this Sola Scriptura is is a "tradition of men". It is an invention NOT found in Scriptures and it TAKES AWAY part of the Word of God. As such, it fits the definition that Jesus laid out for a "tradition of men", an attempt to circumvent God's Word, for example...
Therefore, brethren, stand fast and retain the doctrine which ye have been taught, whether by word or our epistle. 2 Thes 2:15
YOUR tradition erases part of God's WORD!!! WHERE does the Bible tell us that oral tradition blew away or that the written word has abrogated the oral? NOWHERE. Thus, YOU TEACH A TRADITION OF MEN.
Heidi, you need to seriously re-consider your theological stance on this issue, because it is built upon sand and wishful thinking.
Regards