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Why does it need to say that it is ?Corinthian said:Can anyone answer this question on authority? And on that note where in the Bible does it say that the Church does not have the Authority?
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Why does it need to say that it is ?Corinthian said:Can anyone answer this question on authority? And on that note where in the Bible does it say that the Church does not have the Authority?
Who has the final authority to 'interpret' scriptures in your church?francisdesales said:Some people say it is a major sin to abort a baby, others do not.
Some people say baptism is necessary for salvation, others say it is an ordinance.
Some people say they are saved by faith alone, others say we are saved by faith and love.
Some people say that the Eucharist is the Body of Christ, some say it is not.
Some people say that one can lose their eternal inheritance to heaven, others say you cannot.
And so forth. It is impossible that the Bible is the ONLY source of authority for Christians, JUST BASED ON THIS ALONE! God's Spirit is not a Spirit of confusion!
Having the Bible is not enough to receive the intent of the Sacred Author. Have you ever had a conversation with another Protestant and you disagreed? WHAT became the deciding factor, since there is no authority except the bible?
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Many Protestants say it, with different words. You can see it if you read some of the other current threads taking place right now...
Here is the attitude:
"Since the Bible is the Word of God, and it alone, than how I interpret it is the Word of God".
mondar said:I am getting off topic and ranting a little. In any case, why should I care that some protestant sunday school teacher has no idea what sola scriptura means?
francisdesales said:mondar said:I am getting off topic and ranting a little. In any case, why should I care that some protestant sunday school teacher has no idea what sola scriptura means?
True, you are ranting. You seem more concerned about the definition of Sola Scriptura and its "pure meaning", which you seem to believe you possess. By complaining about my "misunderstanding of sola scripture", all you are doing is desperately trying to deflect attention away from the topic of this thread:
Where does the bible say it is the sole authority?
All you are doing is taking us on a wild-goose chase over the "proper definition". Please stay on topic and defend where the bible itself says it is the sole authority for Christians. Prove to me the idea even exists in reality. The fact that Protestants use the same "infallible bible" and come up with numerous interpretations should be evidence enough for an unbiased person to realize that the whole idea (bible is the sole authority) is false.
Regards
Heidi said:We have told you; John 1:1-2, John 1;14, Hebrews 4:12, 2 Timothy 3:16, etc., but you refuse to listen to us.
aLoneVoice said:Francis - I believe you need to calm down!
You say that those of us who are not followers of Rome should not suggest that you "worship Mary" - yet here you are spouting off about Heidi worshipping the "bible".
Gee - pot calling the kettle black?
aLoneVoice said:2 Tim 3:16 clearly shows that it is SCRIPTURE that is PROFITABLE. The verse even outlines what it is PROFITABLE for.
aLoneVoice said:Here is the amazing thing about God - He is not bound by our time line. It is possible, with the guidance of the Holy Spirit - that God knew exactly what He was writting in 2 Tim 3:16 knowing that at sometime in the future HE and HE ALONE would PERSERVE His WRITTEN Word?
aLoneVoice said:Before I enter this discussion even farther - how about YOU provide what YOU believe Sola Scriptura IS or ISN'T? Is that fair?
aLoneVoice said:Francis - I am sorry that you equate what I believe to shames. If it wasn't so sad, it would be funny, but you will go around chastizing others in regards to Rome. You get all bent out of shape when articles are posted against the teachings of Rome.
aLoneVoice said:Francis - here is the thing... YOU happen to disagree with the arguements brought forth. That doesn't mean the arguement is false - it merely means that YOU disagree with it.
You are not the final authority on what is "false".
aLoneVoice said:Francis - we are going to disagree here. But please, you do not want others to belittle Rome, so please stop belittling what others believe.
aLoneVoice said:I would suggest, if you haven't read the thread, read the thread about the origins of the term Protestant. The term originating from the treatement Lutherans were experiencing from "Rome".
quote by Mondar:
The enemies of "sola scriptura" will continue twisting the doctrine into things that it simply does not mean. They will subtly introduce you to things that their own sources of authority must be equal to the scriptures, but remember, the word of God has pronounced only the scriptures to:
Have infallible and innerrant authority
θεÃŒÀνεÅÃĀοÂ---inspired
and be sufficient for the man of God
αÃÂÄιοÂ-----------complete
εξηÃÂÄιÃμÎÂνοÂ--to furnish perfectly
And this, my friends, is the doctrine of "sola scriptura."