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Where is the "Real" Body of Christ These Days ?

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Fish Catcher Jim

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Hello Every One,
My heart is troubled and heavy burdened for what I have been seeing these days with those who are the Body Of Christ. I know how I am feeling and it brings tears to my eyes and I am to the place that I am almost embarrassed
to identify my self as a Christian in many area's of this world. So this brings me to my question, How would God see us if we did not have the Blood of Jesus covering us ? Here is what I am talking about.

Jesus died on the cross so we could live life abundantly and free from the curse of the law. Through Christ God has given us everything we will ever need to live a victorious life through Christ Jesus from glory to glory. He heals us of our diseases and blesses our food and multiplies our seed sown.
He gives us peace and power over the enemy the devil. Jesus made the way that we can go boldly to the throne of God any time we want. The things Jesus has done for us could fill up this entire forum.

So here we are dwelling in this earth with all the resources we could ever need right at our finger tips. God said to us to BE HIS HANDS AND MOUTH while we are here on this earth. His light shining brightly in this dark world. To be His example of Blessed people amongst those lost and hurting people.
He is counting on us. Jesus is ever praying for us and this should be the easiest things we ever do for when God calls you to something He AUTHORISES you to do it which means HE HAS SUPPLIED EVERYTHING that we will need and has EMPOWERED US to carry out the task.

So look around and tell me what you see ? You will find the body of Christ fighting amongst each other and living a sloppy life full of lack and sickness and cant even agree on the WRITTEN WORD OF GOD. You have believers falsely accusing servants of God of preaching false doctrines and such and claiming those ministries that grow big in every way are steeling from the people to live a fat life for them selves and so forth.

Christians are even making the news these days. Oh yea watch their foul evil protest claiming to speak for God Himself. Oh don't they look so cute with their little signs reading God hates Gays and so forth. We attack churches for allowing gay and drunkards and such into their churches and condemn those who are not of the christian life style. Sad sight in Heaven we must be.

No where in the written word of God does it command us to tear down another Mans ministry. No place does it tell us to judge them and broadcast it all over the world. It does say that if you judge some one then this same judgement will be upon you or another words you just took the level of how you must be so high that you will not be able to rise above it. WE are to judge our selves. Judge what is good for us. If it is not of God it will eventually fall but if it is of God you may find your self fighting against God.

God is not holding anything against any of these people. He loves them. He hates their sin but He hates the sin in our life too and why is this ? Because it destroys man, for God hates anything that destroys man. However look at the body of Christ.. So caught up on who will get into Heaven and who will not and those gays wont ever get in unless they change and live life like us.
I got some news for you.......that is simply words from the dung hill.

God loves them all and is not holding anything against them. John 3:16 is for each and every one of them....Just as they are they can receive Christ and be born again and saved and washed with the Blood of Christ and get into Heaven. God will work on cleaning them up and perfecting them. Our Job is to LOVE them and show them the LOVE OF GOD, as far as changing them that is Gods place and out of our hands.

God teaches us to LOVE our enemies and neighbors and those who persecute us and those who are lost. He commands us to and He commands us to forgive them as well. Well now Brother Jim it will be a sad day in hell before my church lets gays make out in the pews. Yea well guess what.......Come hell or high water NO CHRISTIAN COUPLES will make out in my church either.. Get a grip.....We got Christians fighting for their so called Christian rights to refuse doing any kind of business with any person who is not correct according to their religion.....

Yep that's showing them the love of Christ alright...... God commands us to love them. Sad things is if they continue to pass these laws they are hurting their own communities way beyond acceptable.

So in all of this I ask where is THE REAL BODY OF CHRIST ? The ones that Jesus died for and redeemed and only ask to share His love and see the captives set free and bring the lost into the light ? What chance does the lost have with a bunch of fighting so called believers these days ? The devil our enemy is having a field day within the church getting us to fight and bicker and become sloppy all the while hindering our ability to destroy his strong holds and kingdom on this earth. He hood winks the body of Christ and he gets an easier time in steeling - killing and destroying...

Wow Just think........Him ( Jesus ) with our sins and US with His RIGHTEOUSNESS........and look at us.......God help us all......

I hope this will wake some of you up and if it angers you that I speak these words good because it angers me just as well.
Please lets get back to the BASE, the written word of God and lets live it according to His word and not our beliefs of the day.


Blessings and Love in Christ
Jim
 
Dear Brother Jim, God without Christ having taken our sin would see us as “There is none righteous, no, not one (Rom 3:10)”. How does God see us?
1 Jn 5:18 “We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not (1 Jn 5:18).” God regardless of our life sees us only in the new nature of Christ.

Is there then reason to walk after the Holy Spirit instead of the flesh (Rom 8:4)? Oh yes, there is not only consequence of following the world, there is reward for walking and standing in the perfect and complete in all the will of God (Col 4:12).

I believe what you are noticing is different stages of growth in Christians. Paul said it this way in Rom 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
John described this growth in the body of Christ as progressing from little children, to young men, to fathers in 1 Jn 2:13. I write unto you, fathers, because ye have known him that is from the beginning. I write unto you, young men, because ye have overcome the wicked one. I write unto you, little children, because ye have known the Father.

As children of God, He is at work in our lives and we read in Php 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ, and as the old cliché: He ain‘t done with us yet. God gives the increase and we might well be surprised when one day we are before Him receiving that reward He will have with Him which is the result of knowing just what each of us needed to attain to that place He wants to seat us.
Blessings in Christ Jesus. :wave2
 
The Body of Christ is all around... We are His body He is the Head .. He does not fail.....


Fish Catcher Jim, why do you not see His Body as Healthy Wealthy Victorious? Should the same message spoken to other Christians about their health wealth victory also apply to what we 'speak' about His Body?
 
The issues you are discussing will probably tax your belief system, or at least tax a belief system you feel is absolutely correct in all aspects.

I Corinthians 1:23
But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;

II Corinthians 4:5
For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake.

I Peter 2:21
For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:

Do I preach myself as the example, or do I preach Jesus as the example? I am a wretched man in the flesh, but justified in the spirit. I do not preach myself. I preach Christ Jesus.

With compassion I can follow where you spring from. That Christ is preached is our goal. Not I but Christ that dwelleth in me.

If you say yes, but.......... Then I can say no more.

eddif
 
Where is the "Real" Body of Christ These Days ?
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The genuine body of Christ are those sheep that Jesus was referring to. The ones that hear His voice. The ones that He claims cannot be snatched from His hand. The genuine body of Christ are the Elect.

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Fish Catcher Jim said:
So look around and tell me what you see ? You will find the body of Christ fighting amongst each other and living a sloppy life full of lack and sickness and cant even agree on the WRITTEN WORD OF GOD.
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I'm going to need to disagree, Jim. I know, full well, you are my brother in Christ and I know, full well, that you and I agree on the Basic Essentials of Christianity. I know, full well, that you and I understand a few different points from different perspectives.

I could go on until you would pray that I never use full well again but that would remain fruitless. But you see not all that call His name for their own are not Christian except that their name is on some, man made, Church Membership Roll.
 
Abigail123 said:
They're being perfected into the image of Christ to become His beautiful bride.

They're taking care of the orphans, widows, the poor and those in need, and across the globe they're being killed for claiming the name of Christ.
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Simply another excuse made as we sweep this all under the rug and hope it goes away.
 
reba said:
The Body of Christ is all around... We are His body He is the Head .. He does not fail.....


Fish Catcher Jim, why do you not see His Body as Healthy Wealthy Victorious? Should the same message spoken to other Christians about their health wealth victory also apply to what we 'speak' about His Body?
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Reba not sure what you are getting at here so I will keep my type quiet so as not to say the wrong thing.
I believe it is best if i ask you what it is your are saying first.... Been there and done that and learned from it too. :agreed Thanks Reba and blessings
 
th1b.taylor said:
I'm going to need to disagree, Jim. I know, full well, you are my brother in Christ and I know, full well, that you and I agree on the Basic Essentials of Christianity. I know, full well, that you and I understand a few different points from different perspectives.

I could go on until you would pray that I never use full well again but that would remain fruitless. But you see not all that call His name for their own are not Christian except that their name is on some, man made, Church Membership Roll.
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Hello My Brother and Friend,
Beleive me when I say I understand full well what you are saying. :idea
The awesome thing that set me free was this......God said We Have to love one another and Love or Brethren even as He loves the brethren....However He did not say we havbe to agree or even like each other. I mean I can my co worker in Christ and not like him very much as he stirs up a lot of trouble. Now then do not take that wrong way for you know full well that I not only love you my friend but I even like you a lot too.

Bill Here is a portion of the point I am trying to make.
Yet there is still another side that is not being seen correctly.
It does not matter if we know some say they are Christians and are not and if we know some churches are not operating correctly under the Lord Jesus Christ. However it DOES MATTER VERY MUCH that the world which is in the dark does not understand this and see's this all as one, "His Church and Body"

We are His light in this world. All the excuses the body of Christ can make will NOT remove the picture the lost are seeing daily. Google Christian things and find so many so called Christians cclaiming direct revelation from God about all these false teachers and such. You find churches fighting churches and the body of Christ fighting over preachers having to much money. It is all orchestrated from HELL issued by satan to turn the body of Christ into carnal minded christians all the while he is operating within the shadows penetrating deep within the church.

It's time we wake up for the time for excuses and sweeping this under the rug has come and gone. It has reached His throne room and He is going to raise up some young Sheppard's who Love Him and will preach His Righteousness and Grace and are NOT afraid of the so called religious circles. This is the day....Ever hear hear Christians talk about "SOME DAY" Well God said this is THAT DAY and if you are not able to go with His flow then you wont be of the ones He will use.... in this day and hour.

It's past time for the Body of Christ to wake up,
This is what I am talking about
Blessings
Jim
 
It's past time for the Body of Christ to wake up,
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John 10
27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me.
28 And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand.
29 My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father’s
hand.


The Body is wide awake.

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Gary said:
John 10
27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me.
28 And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand.
29 My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father’s
hand.


The Body is wide awake.

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I would have to say you are speaking by Faith other wise it is simply not true. Yes those scriptures are very true however not every one listens or follows for they are to caught up in amking a living on this earth.
 
Fish Catcher Jim said:
I would have to say you are speaking by Faith other wise it is simply not true. Yes those scriptures are very true however not every one listens or follows for they are to caught up in amking a living on this earth.
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That's why they don't fall into the Body of Christ category.

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We are now getting very close to who is born again and who is not.
This goes on in every church.
Are we to make that judgment?
 
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