Who checks the facts?

[JohnDB]

I'm going to take a moment to remind everyone that this is a no debate forum.

Debate is welcome and encouraged in several forums on this website... Just not this one.

 

[OzSpen]

I'm going to take a moment to remind everyone that this is a no debate forum.

Debate is welcome and encouraged in several forums on this website... Just not this one.

John,

In the index of CFnet, nothing is said that 'The Lounge' is NOT a debate forum. See: http://christianforums.net/Fellowship/index.php

Would you please fix this so that those of us who post in 'The Lounge' are told clearly that no debating should take place?

Oz

 

[OzSpen]

I'm going to take a moment to remind everyone that this is a no debate forum.

Debate is welcome and encouraged in several forums on this website... Just not this one.

John,

Nothing is said in 'The Lounge' index on CFnet that it is a no debate forum. I think this should be stated clearly so that we will all know that debating a topic is not permitted. See: http://christianforums.net/Fellowship/index.php

Oz

 

[Not_Now.Soon]

NNS,

This is not a personal argument between Douglas and me. It has nothing whatsoever to do with personal issues. I deal with the content of what a person writes. This is the fruit by which we recognise each other on this forum (see Matt 7:16 NIV).

Oz

Fair enough. I think I've learned and considered quite a few things from this thread. So I thank you, Douglas, and everyone else so far that has contributed.

 

[Not_Now.Soon]

NNS,
Are you married?
I think I love you.
Oh. Wait. I'M married!!
Too bad.
You're such a level headed guy.

No kidding. You're so level headed. Everything you say is true. Not too many people can see both sides of the coin...

Oz deserves respect and admiration for all the work he's put into learning about the Word of God.
I've read some of his articles and they are truly incredible and rich in detail.

Douglas Summers is also correct is saying that a non-believer or new believer will need to learn spiritual matters before historical matters.

BOTH are necessary. There should be no argument of this.

BTW, ALL flowers are beautiful, no matter their name or what family of flower they come from!

Now, to get back to your question:
So here's my question. How can we check the facts after they are accepted as facts? If it's noted that "scholars agree that ________" but over all don't give any more detail for why they agree or how to back it up then how can we check those fact to ensure they are accurate?

My original point was that if one is seeking to know the history of the bible BEFORE coming to accept Jesus as Lord and Messiah, it makes me doubt the sincerity.

OTOH, some people might actually need history to be convinced. In this case, Oz seems to have provided you with names of books and links which could be very useful. You should check out this link from him:
https://spencer.gear.dyndns.org/2013/09/25/why-is-apologetics-in-such-low-demand-in-the-church/

Wondering

Thanks Wondering. I liked your point of trusting the apostles and the church through the Holy Spirit. In this case I think I've found my answer regarding my original issue, but still I'm learning more things to consider then I would have hoped. Thanks again.

... Thanks for the compliment too. I'm also married, and so so happy because of my wife. Tell your husband I say hi, and I hope you guys are having a good year.

 

[JohnDB]

John,

In the index of CFnet, nothing is said that 'The Lounge' is NOT a debate forum. See: http://christianforums.net/Fellowship/index.php

Would you please fix this so that those of us who post in 'The Lounge' are told clearly that no debating should take place?

Oz

This forum is for light discussions. Disagreement will happen of course because with two people you get three opinions. But the heavy duty debate of apologetics and theology has a forum. This one is for those not interested in that heavy of a debate. And the forum header states that already.

This is the fluffy forum for discussions of a lighter and more congenial nature.

But I really would appreciate that this debate be started and carried on in the A&T forum because to me it is interesting to hear all the points.

 

[OzSpen]

This forum is for light discussions. Disagreement will happen of course because with two people you get three opinions. But the heavy duty debate of apologetics and theology has a forum. This one is for those not interested in that heavy of a debate. And the forum header states that already.

This is the fluffy forum for discussions of a lighter and more congenial nature.

But I really would appreciate that this debate be started and carried on in the A&T forum because to me it is interesting to hear all the points.

Thanks, John.

Now I know that this is for the fluff:

(courtesy pinterest.com)

Oz