[__ Science __ ] WHO IS DEAD? GOD OR DARWIN?

[TMal3]

You very much WANT Genesis to be wrong and that any word used that can also be thought of as solid has to be solid here. I do look up the Hebrew and that word, Raquia is used twice.

Do not tell me what I want. Do not speak for me for what you think I very much want. I "very much want" Scripture to be accurately taught. Why don't you stop worrying about me and stop trying to argue with me, and instead just deal with the standard Bible concordances. That's where my information is coming from. So, like I said take it up with them if you don’t like it. And take it up with NIV translation committee. Ask the NIV translation committee and the Bible concordance committees why they "very much WANT Genesis to be wrong."

Raqia

Stereoma

 

[TMal3]

And yet that word is NEVER used to describe a solid surface, just the area outside of earth.
Can you please not put your cut and paste bits in extremely large type. It is not necessary to shout

And yet it IS, because that is literally what the words mean, unless you think the Bible concordances are wrong. The "area outside the earth" called "Sky" is called a "solid support" stereoma in the Bible that separates the waters above from the waters below

 

[Dorothy Mae]

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Do not tell me what I want. Do not speak for me for what you think I very much want. I "very much want" Scripture to be accurately taught. Why don't you stop worrying about me and stop trying to argue with me, and instead just deal with the standard Bible concordances. That's where my information is coming from. So, like I said take it up with them if you don’t like it. And take it up with NIV translation committee. Ask the NIV translation committee and the Bible concordance committees why they "very much WANT Genesis to be wrong."

Raqia

Stereoma

Does it tell the word is used exactly twice and only in reference to the cosmos? Never ever to a solid surface?

 

[Dorothy Mae]

Do not tell me what I want. Do not speak for me for what you think I very much want. I "very much want" Scripture to be accurately taught. Why don't you stop worrying about me and stop trying to argue with me, and instead just deal with the standard Bible concordances. That's where my information is coming from. So, like I said take it up with them if you don’t like it. And take it up with NIV translation committee. Ask the NIV translation committee and the Bible concordance committees why they "very much WANT Genesis to be wrong."

Raqia

Stereoma

The NIV translation committee didn’t translate that Hebrew word as “solid surface.”

 

[TMal3]

The NIV translation committee didn’t translate that Hebrew word as “solid surface.”

"Vault"! It doesn't seem like you've read over the Bible concordance entries I've now posted 3-4 times that address all this that refer to "the vault of heaven, or firmament regarded by Hebrew as solid, and supporting the waters above"

 

[Dorothy Mae]

TMal3

Where is Genesis changed to reflect modern science? You claimed it is. Where, I asked.

“Dom” is certainly a terrible choice of words and is the opposite of modern science.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

"Vault"! It doesn't seem like you've read over the Bible concordance entries I've now posted 3-4 times that address all this

I don’t understand what you’re referring to. One translation used the word “vault” which misses the mark pretty far for either science or scripture. I read the entries. What do you mean?

 

[TMal3]

TMal3

Where is Genesis changed to reflect modern science? You claimed it is. Where, I asked.

“Dom” is certainly a terrible choice of words and is the opposite of modern science.

I have answered your question several times. I even stated translations like the NLT that mistranslate as "space"

 

[TMal3]

I don’t understand what you’re referring to. One translation used the word “vault” which misses the mark pretty far for either science or scripture. I read the entries. What do you mean?

We are obviously having difficulty communicating for some reason and I'm not sure why. You read through the concordance entries below, yes?

Raqia

Stereoma

 

[Dorothy Mae]

The problem as I see it is this.

God created the expanse/firmament/cosmos/space surrounding earth and while I believe He communicated this to Moses, you don’t, right?

 

[Dorothy Mae]

I have answered your question several times. I even stated translations like the NLT that mistranslate as "space"

What word should they have used instead?

 

[TMal3]

What word should they have used instead?

"Firmament"
"Vault"
"Arch"
"Solid support"
"Firm support"
"Solid expanse"
"Vault of heaven"
"Arch of the sky"
"Extended solid surface"

 

[TMal3]

The problem as I see it is this.

God created the expanse/firmament/cosmos/space surrounding earth and while I believe He communicated this to Moses, you don’t, right?

As I said I believe Scripture is divinely inspired, including Genesis

 

[Dorothy Mae]

"Firmament"
"Vault"
"Arch"
"Solid support"
"Firm support"
"Solid expanse"
"Vault of heaven"
"Arch of the sky"
"Extended solid surface"

Are any of those accurately describing the area surrounding the earth (avoiding “cosmos.”)

 

[Dorothy Mae]

As I said I believe Scripture is divinely inspired, including Genesis

Why do you think it’s wrong then?

 

[TMal3]

Why do you think it’s wrong then?

I don't

 

[Dorothy Mae]

I don't

Does the inspired of God Genesis describe to man that the area surrounding earth as solid or not?

 

[Dorothy Mae]

I don't

You think the cosmos IS a solid dome?

 

[TMal3]

Are any of those accurately describing the area surrounding the earth (avoiding “cosmos.”)

I don't know. I don't know what you mean by "accurate." Accurate translation? Accurate description of the earth and cosmos as we understand it today?

I am not trying to solve any problems (real or perceived) that any of those words might seem to create. I am simply trying to be faithful to the Greek and Hebrew words that are used in Scripture and what Bible concordances say those Greek & Hebrew words mean.

On Day 2, God created a raqia/steroma "in the midst of the waters" (not in the cosmos, not on the earth, not surrounding the earth. Genesis simply says God created a raqia/stereoma "in the waters" to "separate the waters to separate the waters below from the waters from the waters.")

Hebrew raqia: solid expanse, extended solid surface, vault of heaven

Greek stereoma: solid support, firm support, firmament, arch of the sky

Did God describe to man that the area surrounding earth as solid or not?

According to Genesis, God created some type of solid support/supporting structure "in the midst of the waters to separate the waters from the wasters."

 

[Dorothy Mae]

Do you see a problem with the two positions?

a. The Bible is inspired by God.
b. The Bible is wrong or untrue in some places like Genesis.

How can God inspire writings that aren’t true?