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WHO Is My Neighbor?

Rajesh Sahu said:
I believe there was no ambiguity in Christs' words when HE commanded the following three things to us His fol.llowetrs ( notice Ice stopped using the word " believers" which is a watered down word for followers. Followers in my dictionary are those brothers n sisters in Christ who not only believed in Christ as savior BUT also choose to pick up their cross, deny their flesh and Follow Him ( much as Christ ordered). The ones who take the pains to OBEY

‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment.
And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’
All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
"A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.

By using the swine and pearls example I believe we are trying to avoid Gods commands of loving ALL. Jesus even commanded us to love the enemy and the ones who persecute, He reminds us there is no reward in only Loving those who love us.
Matthew 5:43-48
“You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’
But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

The Christian walk is a very hard ( but very fruitful--- shall I say eternally fruitful :) I find it difficult to love some people, But my love for the Lord is so deep that I am willing to try to love everyone. that is one of the greatest messages of Bible ( after fearing God and loving Hom and turning away from ALL sin to righteousness)
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Luke 23:34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do.

It's that love of Christ given to us by God's grace, even though we do not deserve it, that we need to love and pray for our enemies as we forgive them for they know not what they do.
 
jeremiah1five said:
1 John 2:15 (KJV)
15 Love not the world [non-Covenant people], neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
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I will have to disagree with your theory that the “world” is a reference to unbelievers or as you say “non covenant people”


If we don’t love the unsaved, how will they become saved?

However, I’m willing to hear your explanation as to why you believe we are not to love the unsaved.


JLB
 
JLB said:
I will have to disagree with your theory that the “world” is a reference to unbelievers or as you say “non covenant people”


If we don’t love the unsaved, how will they become saved?

However, I’m willing to hear your explanation as to why you believe we are not to love the unsaved.


JLB
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I also wonder how one applies Jesus' commands to love our enemies if we don't love the unsaved.

Jesus also said the 2nd greatest commandment is to love our neighbors. I don't recall anywhere where He even suggests only those who are believers.
 
WIP said:
I also wonder how one applies Jesus' commands to love our enemies if we don't love the unsaved.

Jesus also said the 2nd greatest commandment is to love our neighbors. I don't recall anywhere where He even suggests only those who are believers.
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Yes that was my next question -

Love your enemy.


The first problem was he quoted from the law of Moses, where children of Israel were to be seperated from the Gentiles.


The law was known as the wall of seperation.


14 For He Himself is our peace, who has made both one, and has broken down the middle wall of separation, 15 having abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, so as to create in Himself one new man from the two, thus making peace,
Ephesians 2:14-15



JLB
 
JLB said:
Yes that was my next question -

Love your enemy.


The first problem was he quoted from the law of Moses, where children of Israel were to be seperated from the Gentiles.


The law was known as the wall of seperation.


14 For He Himself is our peace, who has made both one, and has broken down the middle wall of separation, 15 having abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, so as to create in Himself one new man from the two, thus making peace,
Ephesians 2:14-15



JLB
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His point was based on the question "Who is my neighbor". The immediate answer is the Samaritans.

The Jews were rivals with the Samaritins. However, the Samaritins were from the tribe of Joseph (Ephriam and Manasseh). As a result, they were under the same law as the Jews.

This is where it needs to be understood that the word Jew derives from the tribe of Judah when Israel split into the Northern and Southern tribes. Samaritans are the red headed children under Judaism.

But I regress, the Samaritins were blessed by Jacob. Please read Genesis 48. Because the Samaritans were also Isrealites, they also fell under the law of Moses and were present as well as under the Sinia covenant.

I have heard the answer to the question preached from the pulpit, "who is my neighbor" , as every individual on the planet. However, to the teacher of the law who asked the question, he most assuradly understood that the red headed elephant in the room was not only his neighbor, but also his brother.

I think that was jeremiah1five point.
 
StoveBolts said:
I think that was @jeremiah1five point.
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That may or may not have been his point.



What we know that he said was -

Non covenant people are not to be loved, because they are the world.


Here is the scripture he quoted.


Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 1 John 2:15


A simple read of the next two verses shows us John is not referring to “non covenant” people as the world.


What do you believe?


Is the world in John 2:15 a reference to
“Non covenant” people?



JLB
 
JLB said:
That may or may not have been his point.



What we know that he said was -

Non covenant people are not to be loved, because they are the world.


Here is the scripture he quoted.


Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 1 John 2:15


A simple read of the next two verses shows us John is not referring to “non covenant” people as the world.


What do you believe?


Is the world in John 2:15 a reference to
“Non covenant” people?



JLB
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You know what they say.... truth mixed with a lie is still a lie.

You and I both know that Israel was to be a light to the nations. We also know that the leaves from the tree of life are for the healing of the nations.

Deuteronomy 4:6 tells us why Israel was Gods elect, and it wasnt for their own glory. In other words, salvation wasnt just for the Jews.... it never was.

I mentioned the three wells in Genesis 26 in another conversation with you. The names of the three wells are appropriate and reflect the temple(s) of God. The Third well represents Christ, the Third Temple bringing the gentiles in. This is in harmony with the expression Abraham gave it once it was dug and he looked across the land which was certainly "Big Enough".

Have you studied any of that? It's a bit different of a theology as was being taught by the originator of this OP.
 
StoveBolts said:
You know what they say.... truth mixed with a lie is still a lie.

You and I both know that Israel was to be a light to the nations. We also know that the leaves from the tree of life are for the healing of the nations.

Deuteronomy 4:6 tells us why Israel was Gods elect, and it wasnt for their own glory. In other words, salvation wasnt just for the Jews.... it never was.

I mentioned the three wells in Genesis 26 in another conversation with you. The names of the three wells are appropriate and reflect the temple(s) of God. The Third well represents Christ, the Third Temple bringing the gentiles in. This is in harmony with the expression Abraham gave it once it was dug and he looked across the land which was certainly "Big Enough".

Have you studied any of that? It's a bit different of a theology as was being taught by the originator of this OP.
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I love O.T. types and shadows.

You should start a thread on that when the TOS and SOF and holidays are over.


Maybe in January to start everything off in a new season.


JLB
 
JLB said:
I will have to disagree with your theory that the “world” is a reference to unbelievers or as you say “non covenant people”


If we don’t love the unsaved, how will they become saved?

However, I’m willing to hear your explanation as to why you believe we are not to love the unsaved.


JLB
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We are not born again by loving the unsaved. We are born again by the Word of God.

Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
1 Pe 1:23.

And the Word does not necessarily mean only the written word, but the verbal word of God spoken and ordained before the foundation (creation) of the world. This Word of redemption correlates to the Book of Life and the names of souls predestined to salvation.
 
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