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WHY DID CHRIST SEND HIS DISCIPLES OUT WITH THE GOOD NEWS?

It was God Who slain the Lamb.
God.

4 Surely he hath borne our griefs,
And carried our sorrows:
Yet we did esteem him stricken,
Smitten of God, and afflicted.
Is 53:4.

Rome was the instrument.
For capital punishment Israel would stone the guilty.
Crucifixion was the method of death by Rome.
And throw burning at the stake as another later means to kill Christians by Rome, also.
Pagan Roman Empire yes acts 2:23 but it was conquered by Christ and his holy church
The nation of Israel consented to the death of Christ
Better for one man to die
Crucify him crucify him

Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

Acts 3:13 The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied him in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let him go.

14 But ye denied the Holy One and the Just, and desired a murderer to be granted unto you;

15 And killed the Prince of life, whom God hath raised from the dead; whereof we are witnesses.

Acts 5:30 The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.
 
This is closely tied to how a truth shall convey among humans. The US government can appoint CNN as its media for government annonouncements. The condition is that CNN must cover the whole United States, not just Indianna or Texas but all that states of US. The Jews are God's chosen people, to a certain extent they are God's CNN. CNN is responsible to examining the credibility of the sources of news, which are usually stories from eyewitnesses. Similarly, God's chosen people is responsible for examining the credibility of the sources of news, which are usually stories from the prophets as God's chosen eyewitnesses.

The Jewisch covenant (OT) only covers the Jews while the New Covenant is supposed to cover all mankind. As a result, Christianity as God's new media must have a coverage of all mankind. That's why the explicit command that the good news must be preached to all nations. If CNN failed its role, the US government may appoint another media for its annonouncements. Similarly, when Judaism failed its role God switched to Christiantiy for His message of salvation to reach all mankind.

Other religions which don't have an explicit command for such a coverage of all mankind, either their gods don't have a message for mankind, or they don't care about humans or they simply don't exist.
So you believe replacement theology?

Where does it say Jews are Gods chooses people? I see the opposite
Matt 23
Gal 4
1 pet 2:9
 
Well then, when you have two seemingly contradictory passages of Scripture what do you do?
Pick the one that upholds your pet theories?
Isaiah says God smite the Son.
But it was God using the Romans to carry it out.
No contradiction when rightly diving the Word of truth.
 
So you believe replacement theology?

Where does it say Jews are Gods chooses people? I see the opposite
Matt 23
Gal 4
1 pet 2:9
Israel: God's Chosen people is found HERE:

6 For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth. 7 The LORD did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people; for ye were the fewest of all people: 8 But because the LORD loved you, and because he would keep the oath which he had sworn unto your fathers, hath the LORD brought you out with a mighty hand, and redeemed you out of the house of bondmen, from the hand of Pharaoh king of Egypt. Dt 7:6–8.

Israel is Chosen of God to be a SPECIAL people (God IS a respecter of persons), ABOVE ALL PEOPLE that are upon the face of the earth.
 
Israel: God's Chosen people is found HERE:

6 For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth. 7 The LORD did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people; for ye were the fewest of all people: 8 But because the LORD loved you, and because he would keep the oath which he had sworn unto your fathers, hath the LORD brought you out with a mighty hand, and redeemed you out of the house of bondmen, from the hand of Pharaoh king of Egypt. Dt 7:6–8.

Israel is Chosen of God to be a SPECIAL people (God IS a respecter of persons), ABOVE ALL PEOPLE that are upon the face of the earth.
Need to update to the New Testament
Matt 21:43 kingdom taken from them
Matt 23:38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

Gal 3:28 no jew
Gal 4:22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.

23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.

24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.

25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.

26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

31 So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free. (do they are now of the bond woman rejected cast out, filled with spiritual blindness for opposing Christ as are they who oppose his body the church also filled with spiritual blindness)

1 Peter 2:9
But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;

Jews no longer chosen people
 
Need to update to the New Testament
Matt 21:43 kingdom taken from them
Matt 23:38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

Gal 3:28 no jew
Gal 4:22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.

23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.

24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.

25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.

26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

31 So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free. (do they are now of the bond woman rejected cast out, filled with spiritual blindness for opposing Christ as are they who oppose his body the church also filled with spiritual blindness)

1 Peter 2:9
But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;

Jews no longer chosen people
Taken?
Like thieves?

Israel is no longer a Chosen people of God?
How come I didn't get the memo?
I guess God is a liar and doesn't keep His Promises.
Maybe He lied to Peter and he's no longer a pope?
Maybe he NEVER was.
 
Israel: God's Chosen people is found HERE:

6 For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth. 7 The LORD did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people; for ye were the fewest of all people: 8 But because the LORD loved you, and because he would keep the oath which he had sworn unto your fathers, hath the LORD brought you out with a mighty hand, and redeemed you out of the house of bondmen, from the hand of Pharaoh king of Egypt. Dt 7:6–8.

Israel is Chosen of God to be a SPECIAL people (God IS a respecter of persons), ABOVE ALL PEOPLE that are upon the face of the earth.
All that change when Christ reformed the old covenant into the new covenant in His own blood!
Matt 21:43 taken from them!

38 “But when the tenants (old Israel) saw the son, they said to each other, ‘This is the heir. Come, let’s kill him and take his inheritance.’ 39 So they took him and threw him out of the vineyard and killed him.

40 “Therefore, when the owner (God) of the vineyard comes, what will he do to those tenants?” (Jews)

41 “He will bring those wretches to a wretched end,” they replied, “and he will rent the vineyard to other tenants,who will give him his share of the crop at harvest time.”

42 Jesus said to them, “Have you never read in the Scriptures:

“‘The stone the builders rejected
has become the cornerstone;
the Lord has done this,
and it is marvelous in our eyes’[h]?
43 “Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit. 44 Anyone who falls on this stone will be broken to pieces; anyone on whom it falls will be crushed.”[i]
45 When the chief priests and the Pharisees heard Jesus’ parables, they knew he was talking about them.46 They looked for a way to arrest him, but they were afraid of the crowd because the people held that he was a prophet.

“Pharisees heard Jesus’ parables, they knew he was talking about them.”!!!
Thanks
 
All that change when Christ reformed the old covenant into the new covenant in His own blood!
Matt 21:43 taken from them!

38 “But when the tenants (old Israel) saw the son, they said to each other, ‘This is the heir. Come, let’s kill him and take his inheritance.’ 39 So they took him and threw him out of the vineyard and killed him.

40 “Therefore, when the owner (God) of the vineyard comes, what will he do to those tenants?” (Jews)

41 “He will bring those wretches to a wretched end,” they replied, “and he will rent the vineyard to other tenants,who will give him his share of the crop at harvest time.”

42 Jesus said to them, “Have you never read in the Scriptures:

“‘The stone the builders rejected
has become the cornerstone;
the Lord has done this,
and it is marvelous in our eyes’[h]?
43 “Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit. 44 Anyone who falls on this stone will be broken to pieces; anyone on whom it falls will be crushed.”[i]
45 When the chief priests and the Pharisees heard Jesus’ parables, they knew he was talking about them.46 They looked for a way to arrest him, but they were afraid of the crowd because the people held that he was a prophet.

“Pharisees heard Jesus’ parables, they knew he was talking about them.”!!!
Thanks
Messiah Jesus Christ was Promised to Israel in order to save His Chosen people Israel and He did that and will sit on the throne of David in Jerusalem to rule everyone- especially to subdue and rule over Rome.
Isn’t that exciting!
Hallelujah!!!
 
Catholic doctrine is not catholic.
What does this mean?

Adam
(Marriage covenant)

Noah
(Family covenant)

Abraham
(Tribal covenant)

Moses:
(National covenant)

Jesus Christ:
(Universal covenant)

New and eternal covenant founded by Jesus Christ! Matt 16:18

Universal (Catholic)
World, universal, all men

Lk 2:10 And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people. ( catholic universal) All men!

Lk 2:31 prepared before the face of all (catholic) people. All men!

Jn 1:29 lamb of God who takes way the sins of the world. All men!

Jn 3:16 for God so loved the world

1 Jn 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. All men!

Lk 2: 10 And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people. All men!

11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord. (All people universal) All men!
 
Taken?
Like thieves?

Israel is no longer a Chosen people of God?
How come I didn't get the memo?
I guess God is a liar and doesn't keep His Promises.
Maybe He lied to Peter and he's no longer a pope?
Maybe he NEVER was.
The church is the new Israel of God in Christ all the promises are found in Christ and His one true Unchangeable church!
The spotless bride of Christ!
 
Messiah Jesus Christ was Promised to Israel in order to save His Chosen people Israel and He did that and will sit on the throne of David in Jerusalem to rule everyone- especially to subdue and rule over Rome.
Isn’t that exciting!
Hallelujah!!!
Past history
Christ’s church already conquered the pagan Roman Empire!

The kingdom has been here for 2000 yrs

Prophecy of the new covenant and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. (The new covenant church) Jn 15:1-5 (the church is the new Jerusalem the kingdom) gal 4:26 (one church) Jn 10:16

Dan 2: 44 And in the days of these kings (Roman Caesars) shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.

Isaiah 2:2
And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the Lord's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.

Micah 4:1
But in the last days it shall come to pass, that the mountain of the house of the Lord shall be established in the top of the mountains, and it shall be exalted above the hills; and people shall flow unto it.

Daniel 7:18
But the saints of the most High shall take the kingdom, and possess the kingdom for ever, even for ever and ever.

Rev 21: 10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,

11 Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;

Lk 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.

Lk 22:29 And I appoint unto you a kingdom, as my Father hath appointed unto me;

Heb 12:22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,

23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,

28 Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:

Matthew 5:14
Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.

Matt 21:43 taken from Israel given to Peter and the apostles Matt 16:18-19 18:18 Jn 20:21 eph 2:20


1 Peter 4:11
If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God; if any man minister, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth: that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom be praise and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

Jude 1:8
Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.

Jude 1:25
To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.

Christ is king and has all authority and dominion!

Christ appointed Peter, the apostles, and their successors to govern the church and administer the kingdom until He returns in glory!

Submission and obedience to them is submission and obedience to Christ!

But pride does not submit like the first Protestant who said “I will not serve” and the great prince st. Michael threw him out of heaven!
Thanks
 
Israel is no longer a Chosen people of God?
The Bible is all about salvation.
Israel was God's chosen people.

But God extended His kingdom to the whole world by sending His Son to all of us.

Jesus' followers are God's chosen people now.

So even if you are an Israelite, if you don't accept Jesus, you will not inherit God's kingdom.

"For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life."

this is the gospel, good news.
 
Past history
Christ’s church already conquered the pagan Roman Empire!

The kingdom has been here for 2000 yrs

Prophecy of the new covenant and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. (The new covenant church) Jn 15:1-5 (the church is the new Jerusalem the kingdom) gal 4:26 (one church) Jn 10:16

Dan 2: 44 And in the days of these kings (Roman Caesars) shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.

Isaiah 2:2
And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the Lord's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.

Micah 4:1
But in the last days it shall come to pass, that the mountain of the house of the Lord shall be established in the top of the mountains, and it shall be exalted above the hills; and people shall flow unto it.

Daniel 7:18
But the saints of the most High shall take the kingdom, and possess the kingdom for ever, even for ever and ever.

Rev 21: 10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,

11 Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;

Lk 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.

Lk 22:29 And I appoint unto you a kingdom, as my Father hath appointed unto me;

Heb 12:22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,

23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,

28 Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:

Matthew 5:14
Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.

Matt 21:43 taken from Israel given to Peter and the apostles Matt 16:18-19 18:18 Jn 20:21 eph 2:20


1 Peter 4:11
If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God; if any man minister, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth: that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom be praise and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

Jude 1:8
Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.

Jude 1:25
To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.

Christ is king and has all authority and dominion!

Christ appointed Peter, the apostles, and their successors to govern the church and administer the kingdom until He returns in glory!

Submission and obedience to them is submission and obedience to Christ!

But pride does not submit like the first Protestant who said “I will not serve” and the great prince st. Michael threw him out of heaven!
Thanks
The Roman Empire was conquered by Barbarians. Not the Church.
 
The Bible is all about salvation.
Israel was God's chosen people.

But God extended His kingdom to the whole world by sending His Son to all of us.

Jesus' followers are God's chosen people now.

So even if you are an Israelite, if you don't accept Jesus, you will not inherit God's kingdom.

"For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life."

this is the gospel, good news.
True
The New Testament is not favorable for the Jews that’s clear

What is required for salvation?
Thanks
 
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