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Why did God call us MAN?

Classik

Classik

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We had to quarrel with one of our teachers. The arguement is now faint in my memory. But I remember he called us animals. He said living things are classified into Plants and Animals (i.e mainly). He said MAN is an example of an animal. We said: NO - we are humans, human beings. God called us MAN. HE didn't call us animals. Besides HE didn't create us alongside other animals. HE made us last. I am a human being. What are you?
 
:confused last time I looked in a mirror I saw a women who is the very part of man in how God created us to be.

"So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them" (Genesis 1:27).

"Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created" (Genesis 5:2).

It is interesting to note that God called both male and female, "Adam" in the day they were created. Adam means "man." Adam and Eve were created with God-ordained differences from each other, but together they made a full "man," or a complete picture of God Himself. There was perfection in their union. Their differences were not a source of discord or inequality, but a beautiful compliment to each other. Together, God gave them the task of overseeing and ruling His creation
 
This is just another small snippet from what I gave on your other thread about women in the OT. I would love to post the whole thing, but I find posting in long successions loses something in the translation.
 
Classik said:
We had to quarrel with one of our teachers. The arguement is now faint in my memory. But I remember he called us animals. He said living things are classified into Plants and Animals (i.e mainly). He said MAN is an example of an animal. We said: NO - we are humans, human beings. God called us MAN. HE didn't call us animals. Besides HE didn't create us alongside other animals. HE made us last. I am a human being. What are you?
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Depends on your perspective or where you are arguing from. Your teacher was arguing from human scientific definition and in that we do in fact fit within the description of "animal."

God set us apart but science does not.
 
From the biological point of view your teacher is right. Physically we are animals.
But from a moral and spiritual point of view our species is unique. If your teacher is a science teacher he's correct though. It's exactly what a science teacher should teach you.
 
Claudya said:
From the biological point of view your teacher is right. Physically we are animals.
But from a moral and spiritual point of view our species is unique. If your teacher is a science teacher he's correct though. It's exactly what a science teacher should teach you.
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Claudya:

Hi, exactly.

This is a point that the secularist Communists struggled to explain, also, right?
 
Claudya said:
From the biological point of view your teacher is right. Physically we are animals. But from a moral and spiritual point of view our species is unique. If your teacher is a science teacher he's correct though. It's exactly what a science teacher should teach you.
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I don't graze.
 
farouk said:
Claudya:

Hi, exactly.

This is a point that the secularist Communists struggled to explain, also, right?
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Not very sure, but I'd guess secular communists wouldn't struggle much with accepting our animal nature as well as our spiritual nature. Just that they wouldn't really call it "spiritual".
But communists always saw a great value in the human mind and in our morality. So I have no doubt they could accept the uniqueness of humankind, it goes well with their ideas. Just like any secular humanist they'd rather explain it with the unique structure of our brain or so, rather than with our origin in God's image.
 
Claudya said:
Not very sure, but I'd guess secular communists wouldn't struggle much with accepting our animal nature as well as our spiritual nature. Just that they wouldn't really call it "spiritual".
But communists always saw a great value in the human mind and in our morality. So I have no doubt they could accept the uniqueness of humankind, it goes well with their ideas. Just like any secular humanist they'd rather explain it with the unique structure of our brain or so, rather than with our origin in God's image.
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Claudya:

Interesting.

I seem to remember anyway that a lot of the folk in 1989 who pushed for the change in the DDR were Lutheran ministers. (Aside: not sure what I think of preachers getting into politics, mind.)

I suppose that at school you had to learn all about 'scientific materialism', and so forth.

I think the linkage of ethics and materialism (unsatisfactory, in my view) was well expressed by Bethold Brecht's: 'Erst kommt das Fressen, dann die Moral' (which doesn't translate easily, but means that feeding comes before theorizing).
 
Classik said:
I don't graze.
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Neither do fish or cats or lizards. Not grazing is no criterion for being no ainmal, sorry. You're still an animal.

Why didn't he say: Living things are classified into Man and plants?
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Because that would exclude fungi and all animals other than humans.

And what category do forum trolls fall into? :lol
 
Claudya said:
Neither do fish or cats or lizards. Not grazing is no criterion for being no ainmal, sorry. You're still an animal. Because that would exclude fungi and all animals other than humans. And what category do forum trolls fall into? :lol
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Did God make animals in His own image?
 
farouk said:
Claudya:
Interesting.
I seem to remember anyway that a lot of the folk in 1989 who pushed for the change in the DDR were Lutheran ministers. (Aside: not sure what I think of preachers getting into politics, mind.)
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Yeah that's true. Churches had a special role in those political changes. The former pastor of my chruch, and now mayor of my city (so much for preachers getting into politics lol) was very involved. They held lots of politcal gatherings in our church (long before I got there, so I only know it from indicidual people's recounts of the events).
Churches were a force of opposition in the socialist Eastern Germany, because they were seperated from the "normal" society. And in this position they attracted all other kinds of dissatisfied people and became a parallel society, not only for christians, but for any sort of free thinkers that felt uncomfortable enough with the GDR everyday life and worldview to risk trouble and discrimination (because that's what you were likely to get when you got caught getting involved with christian organisations).
Also our protesant churches received considerable fundings from their west German brethren and so they did rather well. Western money could open doors even to the most convinced hardline socialists' hearts (is it okay for a christian to bribe someone? :lol)
So the East German protestant churches were among the most prepared groups when the political changes began.

I suppose that at school you had to learn all about 'scientific materialism', and so forth.
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Not I, I was born too late for the real philosophical indoctrination. My socialist indoctrination went only as deep as to painting crayon pictures of the friendly and kind Soviet soldiers. :lol
Later, after the fall of the wall we learned about all the philosophical background of communism, but at an academic distance.

Edit: Are we off topic yet? :lol
 
Claudya said:
Yeah that's true. Churches had a special role in those political changes. The former pastor of my chruch, and now mayor of my city (so much for preachers getting into politics lol) was very involved. They held lots of politcal gatherings in our church (long before I got there, so I only know it from indicidual people's recounts of the events).
Churches were a force of opposition in the socialist Eastern Germany, because they were seperated from the "normal" society. And in this position they attracted all other kinds of dissatisfied people and became a parallel society, not only for christians, but for any sort of free thinkers that felt uncomfortable enough with the GDR everyday life and worldview to risk trouble and discrimination (because that's what you were likely to get when you got caught getting involved with christian organisations).
Also our protesant churches received considerable fundings from their west German brethren and so they did rather well. Western money could open doors even to the most convinced hardline socialists' hearts (is it okay for a christian to bribe someone? :lol)
So the East German protestant churches were among the most prepared groups when the political changes began.


Not I, I was born too late for the real philosophical indoctrination. My socialist indoctrination went only as deep as to painting crayon pictures of the friendly and kind Soviet soldiers. :lol
Later, after the fall of the wall we learned about all the philosophical background of communism, but at an academic distance.

Edit: Are we off topic yet? :lol
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Claudya:

Well, this is all extremely interesting. It seems to me that materialism, Western and former Eastern Communist, is basically similar, but was expressed in a far more systematic, ideological way in the East, before the changes in 1989. It seems that the Communist régimes tried to impose a secularist conception of man (excluding the idea of man having been created in the image of God, of course).

Whereas in the West, materialism was and is mixed in with commerce and big corporations. Or, stated differently, materialism, commerce and religion: Babylon.

Maybe now in eastern Germany, one form of materialism has been replaced with another.... (If this makes sense?) I visited Berlin a while back.

(Also replied to your post about quitting smoking!)

Take care.
 
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Classik said:
Isn't God a kind of bilogist or scientist? Why didn't he classify us as animals???:dunno :shrug :confused
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God was looking at us from the spiritual point of view.
I don't think God is a scientist. He probably understands our scientific thinking, since it was Him that gave us reason and curiosity as part of "His image", but His knowledge must go way beyond our scientific world view. If you'd meet Jesus on earth and would ask Him whether we are scientifically animals or something else He might say something like: "Why don't you look into your science books for that answer?"
 
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