Growth Why does God let bad things happen to good people?

[gerbilwoman]

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[Eugene]

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Eph 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
Php 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.
1 Pet 1:7 That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ.
1 Cor 11:1 Be ye followers of me (The Apostle Paul), even as I also am of Christ.

Did Paul’s life include sufferings? Act 9:16 For I will shew him (Paul) how great things he must suffer for my name's sake.
2 Co 11:23 Are they ministers of Christ? (I speak as a fool) I am more; in labours more abundant, in stripes above measure, in prisons more frequent, in deaths oft.
2 Co 11:24 Of the Jews five times received I forty stripes save one.
2 Co 11:25 Thrice was I beaten with rods, once was I stoned, thrice I suffered shipwreck, a night and a day I have been in the deep;
2 Co 11:26 In journeyings often, in perils of waters, in perils of robbers, in perils by mine own countrymen, in perils by the heathen, in perils in the city, in perils in the wilderness, in perils in the sea, in perils among false brethren;
2 Co 11:27 In weariness and painfulness, in watchings often, in hunger and thirst, in fastings often, in cold and nakedness.
2 Co 11:28 Beside those things that are without, that which cometh upon me daily, the care of all the churches.
2 Co 11:29 Who is weak, and I am not weak? who is offended, and I burn not?
2 Co 11:30 If I must needs glory, I will glory of the things which concern mine infirmities
Blessings in Christ Jesus.

 

[Brother Mike]

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What bad things?

Psa_107:20 He sent his word, and healed them, and delivered them from their destructions.

If we never needed healed, never needed help, never needed delivered, never needed wisdom, then He would never had to have sent His Word to us.

your asking the wrong Question though in assuming God allows. What you mean is God could stop, if God choose to do so. So the question would be.

Why does not God step in and prevent bad things to happen to people.

However, Jesus said the flood comes for the mans house who built it on the rock, and the flood comes for the mans house who did not take heed to the Word and built his house on the Sand. One house was destroyed, the Other did not get touched at all. The flood still came though for both.

So then the real Question would be. Why are some destroyed, and others spared.

The scripture already says the flood comes, ye shall have tribulation in this World.
The Scripture already says God sent His word to heal and deliver us, (From the flood I guess)

So we ask the question according to what we already know true in scriptures.

Why are some destroyed, and why are some not.

blessings.

 

[gerbilwoman]

Bad things such as innocent people getting deadly illnesses. Thank you both.

 

[Eugene]

I would say that if God allows it, we could say with Abraham in Gen 18:25: "Genesis 18:25 Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right? Without knowing the life of the individual, and the mind of God in such circumstances I can only say that I know Whom I have believed and am persuaded with Paul that like he said in
2 Tim 1:12 For the which cause I also suffer these things: nevertheless I am not ashamed: for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day. It wasn't Paul's neglect, but to the very thing he was appointed. I.e., 2 Tim 1:11 Whereunto I am appointed a preacher, and an apostle, and a teacher of the Gentiles.
With each trial God also provides that we not suffer above that which we are able to bear.
1 Cor 10:13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.

There is an interesting thing to me in the suffering of others to our benefit for instance a request offered for Onesiphorus by Paul in:
2 Tim 1:18 The Lord grant unto him that he may find mercy of the Lord in that day: and in how many things he ministered unto me at Ephesus, thou knowest very well.

 

[iLOVE]

The bible says our souls are wounded through sin and trauma (tragedies). A wounded soul gives the demonic the legal right for access to your soul to make war with us because you share things that are in common with that spirit(s).

Now, before you go off binding and rebuking strongmen, you need to make sure you have the authority to do so. How do you get it? The answer is by receiving healing in your soul.

Evil spirits get their right to attack us from unhealed areas in our inner man. This includes strongmen. Just look at the meaning of the word strongman from the Strong's Lexicon. "one who has strength of soul to sustain the attacks of Satan."

Wow, according to the Bible, Satan and his high ranking officers are strongmen but in order for you to defeat them you must be a strong man too! Strong in soul, that is. Your inner man must be healed for you to have dominion over every strongman! Jesus backs this up with this statement in John 14:30 AMP, I will not talk with you much more, for the prince (evil genius, ruler) of the world is coming. And he has no claim on Me. [He has nothing in common with Me; there is nothing in Me that belongs to him, and he has no power over Me.]

Did you get that? Jesus said that Satan had no power over Him because He had nothing in common with Satan. Your spirit man has nothing in common with the enemy. It's your wounded soul that does. However, when you get healed through the power of the cross (Blood of Jesus) and resurrection of Jesus (Dunamis), then your soul will be strong and you will have nothing in common with Satan and any of his strongmen. Thus you will have dominion over them!

 

[Jethro Bodine]

Bad things such as innocent people getting deadly illnesses.

There's more than one answer to your question.

In line with Mikey's answer we have this:
"1As He passed by, He saw a man blind from birth. 2And His disciples asked Him, “Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he would be born blind?” 3Jesus answered, “It was neither that this man sinned, nor his parents; but it was so that the works of God might be displayed in him." (John 9:1-3)

In line with Eugene's answers, there is the suffering of persecution for living godly and doing right:
"11persecutions,and sufferings, such as happened to me at Antioch, at Iconium and at Lystra; what persecutions I endured, and out of them all the Lord rescued me! 12Indeed, all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will be persecuted. " (2 Timothy 3:11-12 NASB)

"when you do what is right and suffer for it you patiently endure it, this finds favor with God. 21For you have been called for this purpose, since Christ also suffered for you, leaving you an example for you to follow in His steps" (1 Peter 2:20-21 NASB)

Overall, suffering is for the perfecting of God's people:
"we know that suffering produces perseverance; 4perseverance, character; and character, hope. " (Romans 5:3-4 NIV)

"2Consider it pure joy, my brothers and sisters,a whenever you face trials of many kinds, 3because you know that the testing of your faith produces perseverance. 4Let perseverance finish its work so that you may be mature and complete, not lacking anything." (James 1:2-4 NIV)

Ultimately, God wants us to thoroughly understand the hopeless decay and bondage of this life by experiencing it, so we can persist in faith and hope and be saved from that decay and bondage:

"20For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope 21that the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the freedom and glory of the children of God." (Romans 8:20-21 NIV)

People who suffer the bondage and decay of this life have less trouble waiting in faith and hope for the life of the children of God to come.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

The bible says our souls are wounded through sin and trauma (tragedies). A wounded soul gives the demonic the legal right for access to your soul to make war with us because you share things that are in common with that spirit(s).

Well, I don't know about all that specifically, but this does remind me that we suffer things in order to be a comfort to others in similar sufferings:

"the Father of compassion and the God of all comfort, 4who comforts us in all our troubles, so that we can comfort those in any trouble with the comfort we ourselves receive from God. 5For just as we share abundantly in the sufferings of Christ, so also our comfort abounds through Christ. 6If we are distressed, it is for your comfort and salvation; if we are comforted, it is for your comfort, which produces in you patient endurance of the same sufferings we suffer." (2 Corinthians 1:3-6 NIV)

Also, suffering teaches us to lean on Jesus, not ourselves:

"We were under great pressure, far beyond our ability to endure, so that we despaired of life itself. 9Indeed, we felt we had received the sentence of death. But this happened that we might not rely on ourselves but on God, who raises the dead. " (2 Corinthians 1:8-9 NIV)

 

[iLOVE]

Well, I don't know about all that specifically, but this does remind me that we suffer things in order to be a comfort to others in similar sufferings:

"the Father of compassion and the God of all comfort, 4who comforts us in all our troubles, so that we can comfort those in any trouble with the comfort we ourselves receive from God. 5For just as we share abundantly in the sufferings of Christ, so also our comfort abounds through Christ. 6If we are distressed, it is for your comfort and salvation; if we are comforted, it is for your comfort, which produces in you patient endurance of the same sufferings we suffer." (2 Corinthians 1:3-6 NIV)

Also, suffering teaches us to learn on Jesus, not ourselves:

"We were under great pressure, far beyond our ability to endure, so that we despaired of life itself. 9Indeed, we felt we had received the sentence of death. But this happened that we might not rely on ourselves but on God, who raises the dead. " (2 Corinthians 1:8-9 NIV)

There is a purpose for our pain. The greater the crisis the greater the destiny.

 

[iLOVE]

The bible says our souls are wounded through sin and trauma (tragedies). A wounded soul gives the demonic the legal right for access to your soul to make war with us because you share things that are in common with that spirit(s).

Now, before you go off binding and rebuking strongmen, you need to make sure you have the authority to do so. How do you get it? The answer is by receiving healing in your soul.

Evil spirits get their right to attack us from unhealed areas in our inner man. This includes strongmen. Just look at the meaning of the word strongman from the Strong's Lexicon. "one who has strength of soul to sustain the attacks of Satan."

Wow, according to the Bible, Satan and his high ranking officers are strongmen but in order for you to defeat them you must be a strong man too! Strong in soul, that is. Your inner man must be healed for you to have dominion over every strongman! Jesus backs this up with this statement in John 14:30 AMP, I will not talk with you much more, for the prince (evil genius, ruler) of the world is coming. And he has no claim on Me. [He has nothing in common with Me; there is nothing in Me that belongs to him, and he has no power over Me.]

Did you get that? Jesus said that Satan had no power over Him because He had nothing in common with Satan. Your spirit man has nothing in common with the enemy. It's your wounded soul that does. However, when you get healed through the power of the cross (Blood of Jesus) and resurrection of Jesus (Dunamis), then your soul will be strong and you will have nothing in common with Satan and any of his strongmen. Thus you will have dominion over them!

Notice the Legion of demons recognize that Jesus had nothing in common with them. In spirit and soul.

They came to the a]'>[a]other side of the sea, to the region of the Gerasenes. 2 When Jesus got out of the boat, immediately a man from the tombs with an unclean spirit met Him, 3 and the man lived in the b]'>[b]tombs, and no one could bind him anymore, not even with chains. 4 For he had often been bound with shackles [for the feet] and with chains, and he tore apart the chains and broke the shackles into pieces, and no one was strong enough to subdue and tame him. 5 Night and day he was constantly screaming and shrieking among the tombs and on the mountains, and cutting himself with [sharp] stones. 6 Seeing Jesus from a distance, he ran up and bowed down before Him [in homage]; 7 and screaming with a loud voice, he said, “c]'>[c]What business do we have in common with each other, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I implore you by God [swear to me], do not torment me!” 8 For Jesus had been saying to him, “Come out of the man, you unclean spirit!” 9 He was asking him, “What is your name?” And he replied, “My name is Legion; for we are many.” 10 And he began begging Him repeatedly not to send them out of the region. 11 Now there was a large herd of pigs grazing there on the mountain. 12 And the demons begged Him, saying, “Send us to the pigs so that we may go into them!” 13 Jesus gave them permission. And the unclean spirits came out [of the man] and entered the pigs. The herd, numbering about two thousand, rushed down the steep bank into the sea; and they were drowned [one after the other] in the sea. Mark 5:1-13 AMP

 

[Jethro Bodine]

There is a purpose for our pain. The greater the crisis the greater the destiny.

And vice versa....'the greater the destiny the greater the crisis'.

 

[iLOVE]

 

[th1b.taylor]

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God knows a person's faith but without testing, few there would be that understand their faith and it's possibilities.

 

[Fish Catcher Jim]

People make bad choices is but one reason why bad things happen to good people.
If they live in this world and we know they do - then sin, sickness and all sorts of evil are all around us every single day.
We need to know our covenant with God and walk in such a way that we can take full advantage of this covenant.

Some folks believe God puts sickness on them to teach them something but He does not
Some folks believe God makes some folks blessed and some to be poor and we just dont know why and again that is false.

God has set before each of us His will for man. This is His word. He has instructed us on how to dwell in the kingdom of God and what we can have and what we can do and so forth if we walk in His ways.
On the flip side he has also shown us the things we will get if we dont walk in His ways.

Bottom line - examine your every day life. Do you have some unforgiveness in you ? This includes ought or holding onto an offense, if so - you have sin that will hinder your prayers and faith and results. There are so many things Christians over look and wonder why this is happening to me.

While there is no one set answer to this question - you do well to examine you life which includes actions and reactions and judge your self over His word.
Blessings
James W

 

[th1b.taylor]

People make bad choices is but one reason why bad things happen to good people.
If they live in this world and we know they do - then sin, sickness and all sorts of evil are all around us every single day.
We need to know our covenant with God and walk in such a way that we can take full advantage of this covenant.

Some folks believe God puts sickness on them to teach them something but He does not
Some folks believe God makes some folks blessed and some to be poor and we just dont know why and again that is false.

God has set before each of us His will for man. This is His word. He has instructed us on how to dwell in the kingdom of God and what we can have and what we can do and so forth if we walk in His ways.
On the flip side he has also shown us the things we will get if we dont walk in His ways.

Bottom line - examine your every day life. Do you have some unforgiveness in you ? This includes ought or holding onto an offense, if so - you have sin that will hinder your prayers and faith and results. There are so many things Christians over look and wonder why this is happening to me.

While there is no one set answer to this question - you do well to examine you life which includes actions and reactions and judge your self over His word.
Blessings
James W

Long time no see Jim.

 

[Fish Catcher Jim]

Long time no see Jim.

Yes sir Mr Taylor it has been awhile. I am Blessed to see you are still here and posting and I do Like the new picture too. Well it is new for me. lol
God is such a good and awesome God and I have just been allowing Him to broaden my understanding in many area's of His word. It is amazing how so many know so little and think they know so much. Man God can take you deeper in an area then you ever dreamed one could go. His word is Amazing.
Have a very Blessed and Joyful week end Brother !
God Bless
James W

 

[Jim Parker]

Why does God let bad things happen to good people?

We are a sinful race of people. God has abundantly provided everything that everyone needs, but mankind has chosen to horde God's provision among a very small number of people and to squander multiple trillions of dollars, euros, rubles, etc. on machines with which to wage endless wars.

Imagine what the earth would be like if mankind spent all that money on curing cancer and other diseases and on distributing the earth's wealth among all of mankind so that no one lacked any good thing.

That will happen when Christ returns and not a second before.

Meanwhile, people suffer because it is the decision of the people of the earth to allow suffering.

Blessed are the merciful for they shall obtain mercy.

iakov the fool

 

[th1b.taylor]

Yes sir Mr Taylor it has been awhile. I am Blessed to see you are still here and posting and I do Like the new picture too. Well it is new for me. lol
God is such a good and awesome God and I have just been allowing Him to broaden my understanding in many area's of His word. It is amazing how so many know so little and think they know so much. Man God can take you deeper in an area then you ever dreamed one could go. His word is Amazing.
Have a very Blessed and Joyful week end Brother !
God Bless
James W

The only people I, truly, worry about are those that believe they know all they need to know. I never read the scriptures without opening my mind for the Spirit to pour in anything He might want to. The scripture has yet to fail to bless me.

 

[Mike S]

Where are the "good" people? We all sin and fall short of the glory of God. We are all sinners in the hands of an angry God. When we receive mercy, it's not because we're "good," it's because God offers us grace and forgiveness.

 

[th1b.taylor]

We are a sinful race of people. God has abundantly provided everything that everyone needs, but mankind has chosen to horde God's provision among a very small number of people and to squander multiple trillions of dollars, euros, rubles, etc. on machines with which to wage endless wars.

Imagine what the earth would be like if mankind spent all that money on curing cancer and other diseases and on distributing the earth's wealth among all of mankind so that no one lacked any good thing.

That will happen when Christ returns and not a second before.

Meanwhile, people suffer because it is the decision of the people of the earth to allow suffering.

Blessed are the merciful for they shall obtain mercy.

iakov the fool

Jim,
The very idea screams error. Jesus taught us the poor will always be among us. And when we study any scripture about Heaven, even then we are not all the same. In Heaven (Matthew 22:1-14) we find two major divisions, the Bride and the Guests. It doesn't cease there of course, our rewards (¿positions?) are not even the same. (Matthew 25:14-30)