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Heidi said:
Solo said:
wavy said:
[quote="Klee shay":14c68]He sent a man to die for other men and Jesus passed his test of endurance. Do you think we have earned the right to consider Jesus and God, one, at our level of understanding? They may be one now but we have yet to pass our test of endurance. Jesus is the perfect personal trainer. :wink:
I do believe that the Father is Yahshua Messiah's God. However, I do not think he was just a man.
Psalm 49:7 None of them can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him:
Do you believe that Jesus is almighty God, Father God?
Jesus claims to be the Son of God filled with His Father's Spirit. He said; "For the Father is greater than I." He also said; "I and the Father are one." So the
only interpretation that does not contradict either of those passages is that Jesus is the Son of God filled with His Father's Spirit. Therefore as he said, once we've seen Jesus, we've also seen the Father because Jesus is the manifestation of God in the flesh whereas God Himself is Spirit.
Jesus also said; "Np one knows the hour. Not the angels in heaven nor the Son, but only the Father." Jesus is again making it clear that His Father is greater than He is and that he was was sent from his Father to do his Father's will. Therefore, there are 3 manifestations of God: God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. Those 3 aspects are separate and distinct manifrestations of God. The Father is supreme, the Son is the way to the Father and the Holy Spirit is our Counselor. Once we know the HS, we then know all 3.