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Why the king james version?

I was initially led to the king james version by faith. I had accepted Jesus Christ as my lord and savior and trusted in him. I knew very little about the bible at that time (2012). I asked God "which Bible?" There are so many. The spirit of truth helped guide me to the truth. Leading me to the KJV as the one I wanted to invest my time in.

So in early 2013 I picked it up and dedicated myself to it. I read it just like a book. Like a technical manual. After reading just a few old testament books, I knew how serious all this was, and that the bible was the one book I had neglected all my life. Over the next month and a half, I would read the whole book, sometimes I spent up to ten hours a day reading it (mostly old testament).

I learned of characters I never knew existed before, Abraham, Solomon, and many more. Before reading the bible, I did not know what a "covenant" was.

The sheer technical mastery sets the KJV apart from any other book, to me anyways. After I read it, I began noticing how the other bibles were altering verses here and there. The more I looked into this, the more it pointed to the KJV 1611 authorized version being the infallible word of God.

There are a great many websites out there that will explain to you why they think the KJV, is a perfect translation. Far too much info to list in this thread.

Here is one with many links http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Bible...king_james.htm

Here is another one http://www.av1611.org/kjv/knowkjv.html


I think its unfair for people to be called "KJVonlyers" or whatever. From where I'm standing, there is no other bibles. Go back to my thread about comparing Jesus to digital data. I explain why the words of Jesus in the KJV are the absolute truth.

It seems to me the NIV is the most popular non KJV bible. Upon researching the difference of the NIV to KJV I have discovered many odd facts about the NIV.

Did you know the NIV is owned by a company named Harper Collins? The Authorized version KJV 1611 has no copy right. That means anyone can publish it, and NO ONE can own it. Harper Collins also publishes the Anton Laveigh Satanic bible, and a book called the joy of gay sex. Note the price of the satanic bible, 9.99. Which is what upside down? As the end days march on the devil is making it more and more obvious.

Here is what wikipedia says about Harper Colins

"HarperCollins Publishers LLC is one of the world's largest publishing companies and, alongside Hachette, Holtzbrinck/Macmillan, Penguin Putnam, Random House, and Simon & Schuster, is part of the "Big Six" English-language publishing companies.[1] Headquartered in New York City, the company is a subsidiary of News Corp."

News corp....as in 21st century Fox........as in Fox news. All owned by Rupert Murchoch, a man (is he really just a man?) .



Those websites listed above will give you a ton of reasons why the KJV is the official word of God.

But remember that Jesus is like the 1 of digital data? The truth and life VS the Devil which is like the 0 of digital data, the lie and death.

This verse comes to mind

2 Corinthians 6:14
"Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?"

Would God allow the actual word to be beside the satanic bible and books about gay sex?

What about perverting the words? Taking away words and adding words?

Lets look at the end of the book of revelation which is the end of the bible.

Revelation 22:18-20 "
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. 20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus."21 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen."


Those are the last words of the bible as you finish it. Clearly a warning is given that no one should change the words of that book, else suffer the plagues in that book!


So I wonder something.............perhaps the devil had to make his own bibles, in order for him to use the media, linked with his perverted bibles.



The other day I watched Fox n friends and they had a military choir singing "God bless America".....and 5 minutes later? A segment about a childrens movie called "How to train your dragon 2". And I thought about that, the bible gives the name dragon as another name for the devil. Doesn't the bible say the devil is not our friend?



1 Peter 5:8

"Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:"


So many say that it doesn't matter what bible you use. I didn't notice any of the KJV defenders list this so here goes.


In the bible there was a man with a demon possessed son, it said the son had a dumb spirit which sought to throw the child in the fire and water, to destroy him. Cause thats what devils do, they try to drive you to death. This man brought his son to the disciples and asked for help, they were unable to cast the devil out of the son, so the man brought the demon possessed son directly to Jesus. Jesus cast him out. Afterwards, the disciples privately went to Jesus and asked him why could they not cast out the demon. Your reply is Mark 9:29



Mark 9:29 (KJV) "And he said unto them, This kind can come forth by nothing, but by prayer and fasting."


Mark 9:29 (NIV) "He replied, “This kind can come out only by prayer."


Mark 9:29 (ESV) "And he said to them, “This kind cannot be driven out by anything but prayer"


See that? Why did the NIV and ESV remove the word fasting? I think because Jesus is telling you that only by fasting can you get rid of some devils (demons)


What did Jesus do after he got baptized by John the baptist? The bible says the spirit led him into the wilderness where there he FASTED for 40 days. There he was tempted by the devil and did not give into him.


Imagine this...a 40 day fast or abstinence would break you from any addiction. Drugs, porn, gambling, etc. Who said fasting only involved food?



How many Americans, who call themselves christians, have actually fasted and broken the addiction of their vices?


IMO Satan is protecting his own interest with the other bibles. Not only are they perversions and imperfections without the guidance of the holy ghost (which is perfection), they actually strengthen the kingdom of Satan by spreading confusion.

1 Corinthians 14:33 "For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints."


Mathew 12:26 "And if Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then will his kingdom stand?"
 
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This video explains it all better than I can. Because I am not a pastor. This video can help you understand how the other bibles remove the deity of Jesus Christ.
 
so despite the fact that the kjv is only in English. those other languages aren't getting their bible read. what original bible languages were used?

it wasn't English, but Hebrew(biblical),koine greek, Aramaic. none of those are spoken commonly as they were. I do know a person who is fluent in koine greek. besides since when is hades equal to hell?
 
So you say God is not the author of confusion.
I agree.
You say KJV 1611 is the only true version presented by God.
So why did the original 1611 KJV include the Apocrypha?
Do you believe it should be there?
I don't.
I'm confused.
 
So you say God is not the author of confusion.
I agree.
You say KJV 1611 is the only true version presented by God.
So why did the original 1611 KJV include the Apocrypha?
Do you believe it should be there?
I don't.
I'm confused.
the most widely used kjv is the 1768 version.
 
What does that mean?
they made some corrections to it in 1768 and printed more of those then the first versions. besides im waiting to go into the fact that jews that denied jesus in the 10th century, those anti-Christ kin of mine. those are the ones that penned the Masoretic text. which most bible use for the ot.I have a chumash and the kjv and both the ot of the kjv and the chumas are nearly word for word. both are in Elizabethan english
 
So you say God is not the author of confusion.
I agree.
You say KJV 1611 is the only true version presented by God.
So why did the original 1611 KJV include the Apocrypha?
Do you believe it should be there?
I don't.
I'm confused.

I have the KJV apocrypha, it doesn't feel legit to me as I read it. As in that holy spirit resonance to it. That official seal. I do not believe in lost or hidden books. There is some great stuff in the book of Enoch, but how do I not know Satan put it there? The book of Enoch is not cannon.
 
I don't study the history of translations. That video goes into depth with that. I didn't know the first bible king james put out did not have the old testament in it.
 
I don't study the history of translations. That video goes into depth with that. I didn't know the first bible king james put out did not have the old testament in it.
yes it did. and well the English language didn't have the word baptism in it. why? because its wasn't meant to appease king james whom believed in sprinkling of water. it should be rendered as immersion in water. that is what baptismo means. to immerse fully.
 
Just one question............ if the 1611 (or whatever might have even been earlier. ie 1535, 1568. 1604, and a few others) was the perfect Bible, why was it ever touched, in the slightest, and why does almost no one read from that very first Bible anymore?
 
Just one question............ if the 1611 (or whatever might have even been earlier) was the perfect Bible, why was it ever touched, in the slightest, and why does almost no one read from that very first Bible anymore?
the first English bible was by Tyndale.
 
I was initially led to the king james version by faith. I had accepted Jesus Christ as my lord and savior and trusted in him. I knew very little about the bible at that time (2012). I asked God "which Bible?" There are so many. The spirit of truth helped guide me to the truth. Leading me to the KJV as the one I wanted to invest my time in.

So in early 2013 I picked it up and dedicated myself to it. I read it just like a book. Like a technical manual. After reading just a few old testament books, I knew how serious all this was, and that the bible was the one book I had neglected all my life. Over the next month and a half, I would read the whole book, sometimes I spent up to ten hours a day reading it (mostly old testament).

I learned of characters I never knew existed before, Abraham, Solomon, and many more. Before reading the bible, I did not know what a "covenant" was.

The sheer technical mastery sets the KJV apart from any other book, to me anyways. After I read it, I began noticing how the other bibles were altering verses here and there. The more I looked into this, the more it pointed to the KJV 1611 authorized version being the infallible word of God.

There are a great many websites out there that will explain to you why they think the KJV, is a perfect translation. Far too much info to list in this thread.

Here is one with many links http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Bible...king_james.htm

Here is another one http://www.av1611.org/kjv/knowkjv.html


I think its unfair for people to be called "KJVonlyers" or whatever. From where I'm standing, there is no other bibles. Go back to my thread about comparing Jesus to digital data. I explain why the words of Jesus in the KJV are the absolute truth.

It seems to me the NIV is the most popular non KJV bible. Upon researching the difference of the NIV to KJV I have discovered many odd facts about the NIV.

Did you know the NIV is owned by a company named Harper Collins? The Authorized version KJV 1611 has no copy right. That means anyone can publish it, and NO ONE can own it. Harper Collins also publishes the Anton Laveigh Satanic bible, and a book called the joy of gay sex. Note the price of the satanic bible, 9.99. Which is what upside down? As the end days march on the devil is making it more and more obvious.

Here is what wikipedia says about Harper Colins

"HarperCollins Publishers LLC is one of the world's largest publishing companies and, alongside Hachette, Holtzbrinck/Macmillan, Penguin Putnam, Random House, and Simon & Schuster, is part of the "Big Six" English-language publishing companies.[1] Headquartered in New York City, the company is a subsidiary of News Corp."

News corp....as in 21st century Fox........as in Fox news. All owned by Rupert Murchoch, a man (is he really just a man?) .



Those websites listed above will give you a ton of reasons why the KJV is the official word of God.

But remember that Jesus is like the 1 of digital data? The truth and life VS the Devil which is like the 0 of digital data, the lie and death.

This verse comes to mind

2 Corinthians 6:14
"Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?"

Would God allow the actual word to be beside the satanic bible and books about gay sex?

What about perverting the words? Taking away words and adding words?

Lets look at the end of the book of revelation which is the end of the bible.

Revelation 22:18-20 "
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. 20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus."21 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen."


Those are the last words of the bible as you finish it. Clearly a warning is given that no one should change the words of that book, else suffer the plagues in that book!


So I wonder something.............perhaps the devil had to make his own bibles, in order for him to use the media, linked with his perverted bibles.



The other day I watched Fox n friends and they had a military choir singing "God bless America".....and 5 minutes later? A segment about a childrens movie called "How to train your dragon 2". And I thought about that, the bible gives the name dragon as another name for the devil. Doesn't the bible say the devil is not our friend?



1 Peter 5:8

"Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:"


So many say that it doesn't matter what bible you use. I didn't notice any of the KJV defenders list this so here goes.


In the bible there was a man with a demon possessed son, it said the son had a dumb spirit which sought to throw the child in the fire and water, to destroy him. Cause thats what devils do, they try to drive you to death. This man brought his son to the disciples and asked for help, they were unable to cast the devil out of the son, so the man brought the demon possessed son directly to Jesus. Jesus cast him out. Afterwards, the disciples privately went to Jesus and asked him why could they not cast out the demon. Your reply is Mark 9:29



Mark 9:29 (KJV) "And he said unto them, This kind can come forth by nothing, but by prayer and fasting."


Mark 9:29 (NIV) "He replied, “This kind can come out only by prayer."


Mark 9:29 (ESV) "And he said to them, “This kind cannot be driven out by anything but prayer"


See that? Why did the NIV and ESV remove the word fasting? I think because Jesus is telling you that only by fasting can you get rid of some devils (demons)


What did Jesus do after he got baptized by John the baptist? The bible says the spirit led him into the wilderness where there he FASTED for 40 days. There he was tempted by the devil and did not give into him.


Imagine this...a 40 day fast or abstinence would break you from any addiction. Drugs, porn, gambling, etc. Who said fasting only involved food?



How many Americans, who call themselves christians, have actually fasted and broken the addiction of their vices?


IMO Satan is protecting his own interest with the other bibles. Not only are they perversions and imperfections without the guidance of the holy ghost (which is perfection), they actually strengthen the kingdom of Satan by spreading confusion.

1 Corinthians 14:33 "For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints."


Mathew 12:26 "And if Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then will his kingdom stand?"
I was raised to believe there was a God, and not allowed to use Gods name in regular conversation. That is all I
learned growing up. I can say I only turned to God or asked for his help when I was out of answers or the many times
where he saved my life. I do not recall either parent ever going to church or reading a bible. So from around 15 to 54
I did as I wanted and continued along without God. Oh I thanked him many times for saving my life but did not turn to him until 54. I never brought home a report card with only two F's it was always 3 or 4 and other than an A in sports
it was D's and F's. I did not learn or was not taught how to read early on in school so as I got to 7th grade and above
not being able to read and comprehend caused me many problems. After I got out of school in the Air Force I realized I had to read to move up in the work force. I did improve my reading it still is not the best. when I got saved I bought a kjv
and done like you read it all twice from front to back. I had some problems with the English but was able to get through.
I often wonder why some say it is so hard; I managed to do it. Later after reading the kjv and hearing things and seeing things in Sunday school books that did not match kjv, a little research Im glad I tuffed it out with kjv.
 
the first English bible was by Tyndale.
Are you suggesting that the 1611 wasn't in the English language? (kidding...)

But, even the Tyndale (from which much of the KJV was taken) has been revised numerous times.....

So.... looking at ANY of those earliest Bibles... they are not the Bibles, given those names, that we read from today.
 
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Are you suggesting that the 1611 wasn't in the English language? (kidding...)

But, even the Tyndale (from which much of the KJV was taken) has been revised numerous times.....

So.... looking at ANY of those earliest Bibles... they are not the Bibles, given those names, that we read from today.
I agree, the more one studies greek and Hebrew, one sees how easy it is to make a mistake. English isn't an easy tounge to translate into. bias comes into play big time
 
I was initially led to the king james version by faith. I had accepted Jesus Christ as my lord and savior and trusted in him. I knew very little about the bible at that time (2012). I asked God "which Bible?" There are so many. The spirit of truth helped guide me to the truth. Leading me to the KJV as the one I wanted to invest my time in.

So in early 2013 I picked it up and dedicated myself to it. I read it just like a book. Like a technical manual. After reading just a few old testament books, I knew how serious all this was, and that the bible was the one book I had neglected all my life. Over the next month and a half, I would read the whole book, sometimes I spent up to ten hours a day reading it (mostly old testament).

I learned of characters I never knew existed before, Abraham, Solomon, and many more. Before reading the bible, I did not know what a "covenant" was.

The sheer technical mastery sets the KJV apart from any other book, to me anyways. After I read it, I began noticing how the other bibles were altering verses here and there. The more I looked into this, the more it pointed to the KJV 1611 authorized version being the infallible word of God.

There are a great many websites out there that will explain to you why they think the KJV, is a perfect translation. Far too much info to list in this thread.

Here is one with many links http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Bible...king_james.htm

Here is another one http://www.av1611.org/kjv/knowkjv.html


I think its unfair for people to be called "KJVonlyers" or whatever. From where I'm standing, there is no other bibles. Go back to my thread about comparing Jesus to digital data. I explain why the words of Jesus in the KJV are the absolute truth.

It seems to me the NIV is the most popular non KJV bible. Upon researching the difference of the NIV to KJV I have discovered many odd facts about the NIV.

Did you know the NIV is owned by a company named Harper Collins? The Authorized version KJV 1611 has no copy right. That means anyone can publish it, and NO ONE can own it. Harper Collins also publishes the Anton Laveigh Satanic bible, and a book called the joy of gay sex. Note the price of the satanic bible, 9.99. Which is what upside down? As the end days march on the devil is making it more and more obvious.

Here is what wikipedia says about Harper Colins

"HarperCollins Publishers LLC is one of the world's largest publishing companies and, alongside Hachette, Holtzbrinck/Macmillan, Penguin Putnam, Random House, and Simon & Schuster, is part of the "Big Six" English-language publishing companies.[1] Headquartered in New York City, the company is a subsidiary of News Corp."

News corp....as in 21st century Fox........as in Fox news. All owned by Rupert Murchoch, a man (is he really just a man?) .



Those websites listed above will give you a ton of reasons why the KJV is the official word of God.

But remember that Jesus is like the 1 of digital data? The truth and life VS the Devil which is like the 0 of digital data, the lie and death.

This verse comes to mind

2 Corinthians 6:14
"Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?"

Would God allow the actual word to be beside the satanic bible and books about gay sex?

What about perverting the words? Taking away words and adding words?

Lets look at the end of the book of revelation which is the end of the bible.

Revelation 22:18-20 "
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. 20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus."21 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen."


Those are the last words of the bible as you finish it. Clearly a warning is given that no one should change the words of that book, else suffer the plagues in that book!


So I wonder something.............perhaps the devil had to make his own bibles, in order for him to use the media, linked with his perverted bibles.



The other day I watched Fox n friends and they had a military choir singing "God bless America".....and 5 minutes later? A segment about a childrens movie called "How to train your dragon 2". And I thought about that, the bible gives the name dragon as another name for the devil. Doesn't the bible say the devil is not our friend?



1 Peter 5:8

"Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:"


So many say that it doesn't matter what bible you use. I didn't notice any of the KJV defenders list this so here goes.


In the bible there was a man with a demon possessed son, it said the son had a dumb spirit which sought to throw the child in the fire and water, to destroy him. Cause thats what devils do, they try to drive you to death. This man brought his son to the disciples and asked for help, they were unable to cast the devil out of the son, so the man brought the demon possessed son directly to Jesus. Jesus cast him out. Afterwards, the disciples privately went to Jesus and asked him why could they not cast out the demon. Your reply is Mark 9:29



Mark 9:29 (KJV) "And he said unto them, This kind can come forth by nothing, but by prayer and fasting."


Mark 9:29 (NIV) "He replied, “This kind can come out only by prayer."


Mark 9:29 (ESV) "And he said to them, “This kind cannot be driven out by anything but prayer"


See that? Why did the NIV and ESV remove the word fasting? I think because Jesus is telling you that only by fasting can you get rid of some devils (demons)


What did Jesus do after he got baptized by John the baptist? The bible says the spirit led him into the wilderness where there he FASTED for 40 days. There he was tempted by the devil and did not give into him.


Imagine this...a 40 day fast or abstinence would break you from any addiction. Drugs, porn, gambling, etc. Who said fasting only involved food?



How many Americans, who call themselves christians, have actually fasted and broken the addiction of their vices?


IMO Satan is protecting his own interest with the other bibles. Not only are they perversions and imperfections without the guidance of the holy ghost (which is perfection), they actually strengthen the kingdom of Satan by spreading confusion.

1 Corinthians 14:33 "For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints."


Mathew 12:26 "And if Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then will his kingdom stand?"
Most of these things have been discussed here before, many times. The KJVO position is almost entirely built on fallacious reasoning and purposeful misrepresentation of other translations, and ought to be abandoned.
 
Most of these things have been discussed here before, many times. The KJVO position is almost entirely built on fallacious reasoning and purposeful misrepresentation of other translations, and ought to be abandoned.

The KJVO position is the truth. Do you like the truth? I see so much absolutism, but not many that believe in the KJV being infallible. They are presented with fact after fact yet never "wake up" to the truth.

When one places the KJV in the realm of translations and world history, it seems like nothing more than a book. A book like moby dick or any other. But when you consider the holy spirit's "influence" on the KJV, it is not just a mere book. Anyone that truly has the spirit of truth in them will be/ should be able to discern the difference of the KJV to the rest. The positively charged righteous perfection that exist around the KJV. And see there is no way to prove that. So it is faith that makes the connection. But then "world history" requires faith as well. I did not live billions of years ago thus I can't see a dinosaur in the flesh today, nor can I travel to the moon and observe it is a real rock. That requires faith to believe in. Genesis 1:16 says the moon is a light. Hard to land a space ship on a photon. I walk by faith not by sight. I put my faith in God and trust his word.
 
The KJVO position is the truth. Do you like the truth? I see so much absolutism, but not many that believe in the KJV being infallible. They are presented with fact after fact yet never "wake up" to the truth.

When one places the KJV in the realm of translations and world history, it seems like nothing more than a book. A book like moby dick or any other. But when you consider the holy spirit's "influence" on the KJV, it is not just a mere book. Anyone that truly has the spirit of truth in them will be/ should be able to discern the difference of the KJV to the rest. The positively charged righteous perfection that exist around the KJV. And see there is no way to prove that. So it is faith that makes the connection. But then "world history" requires faith as well. I did not live billions of years ago thus I can't see a dinosaur in the flesh today, nor can I travel to the moon and observe it is a real rock. That requires faith to believe in. Genesis 1:16 says the moon is a light. Hard to land a space ship on a photon. I walk by faith not by sight. I put my faith in God and trust his word.
doth God speaketh in English, what be the tounge of the Hebrew children.? ye Hebrew, or ye old English?
 
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