Why The World Rejects God

[Soul man]

There is no such thing as one believer receiving more of God than another.
This would be so foolish as to say that a biological father who has birthed a large family has put more of his seed into one child than he has in another.
What the biological father literally does is to place his seed directly into the mother, and a child is brought forth according to that seed.
It is never the father's intention that one child be lesser or greater than another.
Yet, religion promotes the idea that there is more of God in one person, or in one place, or by one doctrine, or by one understanding than there is in another.
Such foolishness as this has caused the children of the world to openly reject and rebel against God.
When a believer is born again, he receives as much God as any believer.
God does not place more of His Son in one believer than He does in another.
Thus there is never any over payment of a debt by God in the Christ life.
When every believer sees that the life he now lives is Christ, it is because he sees that God's one Son has been birthed in him by an act of love from the Father. This is not to take away from the fact that the Christ in every believer will be expressed differently in each believer, for it is Christ in us, as us.

 

[thesaintman]

the world rejects god because they dont know a rainbow is better than tattoo

 

[thesaintman]

rainbows better than tattoo thats why

 

[chessman]

Luke 1:80 So the child grew and became strong in spirit, and was in the deserts till the day of his manifestation to Israel. ​

God's Children grow strong because the Spirit in them IS strong.


Unfortunately, if a person is not of God, they just aren't listening to Him.

John 8:44, 47 (NASB) You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, ... He who is of God hears God’s words; therefore you do not hear, because you are not of God.”​

 

[GodsGrace]

the world rejects god because they dont know a rainbow is better than tattoo

this is so true saintman.

many reject God because they want that Tattoo, they want to do what feels right even though it maya not be right.
so they have to reject God to feel free.

but really they Are not free because they Are slaves to the evil one.

but we Who know that rainbows are better, Are slaves and friends to God, the one Who Made us.

we're very lucky to know that rainbows are better!!

 

[Christ_empowered]

most of the world will live and die in spiritual darkness. We're called to spread The Good News, but the fact remains....darkness doesn't like the light. There aren't all that many people on the narrow road that leads to life everlasting.

I look at this and I think I see where the Calvinists are coming from, lol. Doesn't mean they're necessarily correct, but it does have an appeal, at some level...

 

[GodsGrace]

most of the world will live and die in spiritual darkness. We're called to spread The Good News, but the fact remains....darkness doesn't like the light. There aren't all that many people on the narrow road that leads to life everlasting.

I look at this and I think I see where the Calvinists are coming from, lol. Doesn't mean they're necessarily correct, but it does have an appeal, at some level...

CE
Send me a PM (don't answer here - not allowed) and tell me what the appeal is. I don't see any...

 

[GodsGrace]

rainbows better than tattoo thats why

Saintman,

I thought you might like this:

CHAPTER ONE
MAN'S CAPACITY FOR GOD

I. THE DESIRE FOR GOD

27 The desire for God is written in the human heart, because man is created by God and for God; and God never ceases to draw man to himself. Only in God will he find the truth and happiness he never stops searching for:



The dignity of man rests above all on the fact that he is called to communion with God. This invitation to converse with God is addressed to man as soon as he comes into being. For if man exists it is because God has created him through love, and through love continues to hold him in existence. He cannot live fully according to truth unless he freely acknowledges that love and entrusts himself to his creator.1
28 In many ways, throughout history down to the present day, men have given expression to their quest for God in their religious beliefs and behavior: in their prayers, sacrifices, rituals, meditations, and so forth. These forms of religious expression, despite the ambiguities they often bring with them, are so universal that one may well call man a religious being:



From one ancestor [God] made all nations to inhabit the whole earth, and he allotted the times of their existence and the boundaries of the places where they would live, so that they would search for God and perhaps grope for him and find him - though indeed he is not far from each one of us. For "in him we live and move and have our being."2
29 But this "intimate and vital bond of man to God" (GS 19 § 1) can be forgotten, overlooked, or even explicitly rejected by man.3 Such attitudes can have different causes: revolt against evil in the world; religious ignorance or indifference; the cares and riches of this world; the scandal of bad example on the part of believers; currents of thought hostile to religion; finally, that attitude of sinful man which makes him hide from God out of fear and flee his call.4

30 "Let the hearts of those who seek the LORD rejoice."5 Although man can forget God or reject him, He never ceases to call every man to seek him, so as to find life and happiness. But this search for God demands of man every effort of intellect, a sound will, "an upright heart", as well as the witness of others who teach him to seek God.



You are great, O Lord, and greatly to be praised: great is your power and your wisdom is without measure. And man, so small a part of your creation, wants to praise you: this man, though clothed with mortality and bearing the evidence of sin and the proof that you withstand the proud. Despite everything, man, though but a small a part of your creation, wants to praise you. You yourself encourage him to delight in your praise, for you have made us for yourself, and our heart is restless until it rests in you.6

 

[Corn Pop]

I agree. There is no such thing as one believer receiving more of God than another.

 

[Corn Pop]

Many people hate the truth. They dont want people to have the truth. Could you picture telling your church pastor you sit on Christs throne, they would probably shout blasphemy and call one the man of sin.

The world hates the truth, but its because they are just misguided, there intentions are not bad, but will do anything to stop people from recieving the truth and overcoming.

Anyone who truely believes in Christ has overcome.

"To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne."

How great would it be if they whole world sat on Christs throne.

Its not the pope and his minions, or mohamud and his minions, or the church pastor and his minions, or the president and his minions, or Kim Jong Un and his minions, or the Apostle Paul and his minions. Its God and his people. People reject God.

The Apostle Paul could not express it more. His intentions were good but he is not to be followed, he gives thanks to God the Father and Christ.

People should stop following doctrine and man and follow God for the letter destroys.

 

[Milk-Drops]

I can say that a decent chunk of the "world" reject Christianity is because to combination of the Laws, how redemption works, why redemption is there/needed, the origin of life, The origin of the world, many stories within the Bible, come into conflict with what many people have discovered since the Bible's canonization.

Once you get past the base level cultural aspect of Christianity, it starts diverging into what most nation consider very old world philosophy when the world was ran by empires and individual rights weren't a thing yet. just saying its a pretty deep well.

 

[Corn Pop]

Christ explained the whole system is based on a lie., the thing is, many people get stuck in the system and follow doctrine, in the wilderness in babylon.

 

[Corn Pop]

If the whole world knew the truth it would be having one huge massive party, just having a good time and enjoying life.

 

[Milk-Drops]

Christ explained the whole system is based on a lie., the thing is, many people get stuck in the system and follow doctrine, in the wilderness in babylon.

Then you have to answer then next question, what is the system, and if its based on lies, how do we know that the person saying its all lies isn't lieing themselves?

I'm not saying Jesus is a liar, but I'm just following the logic used in the assertion. Many times when I see people talking about the world does x or y, its mostly people projecting onto the world instead of letting the world speak for itself.

 

[Corn Pop]

Then you have to answer then next question, what is the system, and if its based on lies, how do we know that the person saying its all lies isn't lieing themselves?

I'm not saying Jesus is a liar, but I'm just following the logic used in the assertion. Many times when I see people talking about the world does x or y, its mostly people projecting onto the world instead of letting the world speak for itself.

Its the evidence as well. Do you think the rule of law can ever bring a peaceful nation, or even, world?. Yet man kind seems to think the rule of law will bring a safe, secure, prosperous nation. Always a governments promise, obey our laws and we will in return give you a safe, secure, prosperous, peaceful society.

We sign a contract that we will obey the nations laws in return for something they can never deliver.

Where there is law there is law breakers and lawlessness grows, it also brings discrimination, and racism.

How much of a ball and chain and bondage does it bring with only a failed outcome.

The truth came through Christ, his 'law' was pure spiritual 'law', thats just love the creator and Love your neighbours, with no contract attached.

Not 'dont do this, and dont do that'.

 

[Milk-Drops]

Its the evidence as well.

Which evidence are you specifically talking about? As I mention above, its because various evidence doesn't line up that many reject Christianity.

Do you think the rule of law can ever bring a peaceful nation, or even, world?.

That doesn't matter. Perfect or peaceful society doesn't prove or disprove Christianity. Especially considering that this isn't a binary.

Yet man kind seems to think the rule of law will bring a safe, secure, prosperous nation. Always a governments promise, obey our laws and we will in return give you a safe, secure, prosperous society.

This is irrelevant. I don't know anyone specifically who thinks this way and it also has nothing to do with whether or not Christianity is true.

We sign a contract that we will obey the nations laws in return for something they can never deliver.

What contract? What is not getting delivered?

Where there is law there is law breakers and lawlessness grows.

and where there is water, there are things that are dry and need watered.

How much of a ball and chain and bondage does it bring with only a failed outcome.

How much will clapping your hands make the lizard dance?

The truth came through Christ, his 'law' was love God and Love your neighbors. Not 'dont do this and dont do that'.

Except for that whole lineage of prophets, several books on laws, the multitudes of parables, the condemnations in the New Testament from Paul, and Jesus himself.

Like I said man, there are a lot of deep reasons.

 

[Corn Pop]

The world thinks if it impliments a set of rules and conditions it can bring a peaceful, harmony, society.

It doesn't work because man is in confusion.

Why is the world not in harmony, its because all peoples, nations, religions, all believe in there own system of rule, yet none of them is truth because no system of rule works, they all have a flaw.

And who creates a rule its only there rule, and all it does is put all people in bondage until there bound completely in chains.

Look at our nations, a heap of people and partys establish rules, they keep putting us in more and more bondage under there own beliefs, the more rules they make, the more bondage people are put in. With the promise of a harmonious, good, peaceful, society.

And the only person above the law is a King.

As a rule is established it brings Inequality.

 

[Milk-Drops]

The world thinks if it impliments a set of rules and conditions it can bring a peaceful, harmony, society.

I don't think so. I think most people are aware that the world will never be perfect, but that the world can improve. Contrary to their being legit issues going on today, it has improved in most western countries over the last few hundred years.

Why is the world not in harmony, its because all peoples, nations, religions, all believe in there own system of rule, yet none of them is truth because no system of rule works, they all have a flaw.

Well yeah, and they are all competing together to see which one works best, Christianity competes alongside all the others.

And who creates a rule its only there rule, and all it does is put all people in bondage until there bound completely in chains.

Christianity does have rules as well, as well as an eternal punishment for people that don't follow its rules.

Look at our nations, a heap of people and partys establish rules, they keep putting us in more and more bondage under there own beliefs, the more rules they make, the more bondage people are put in. With the promise of a harmonious, good, peaceful, society.

Ok, how does Christianity avoid that?

And the only person above the law is the King.

Actually no, not really, even in Monarchies the Kings had to follow rules man. Heck, most western countries don't even have monarchies anymore. Most are democratic. A lot less war and death happened when absolute power was no longer given to kings politically.

As a rule is established it brings Inequality.

So does Jesus equal no rules? I'm trying to figure out where all this fits together man.

 

[Corn Pop]

I don't think so. I think most people are aware that the world will never be perfect, but that the world can improve. Contrary to their being legit issues going on today, it has improved in most western countries over the last few hundred years.

Well yeah, and they are all competing together to see which one works best, Christianity competes alongside all the others.

Christianity does have rules as well, as well as an eternal punishment for people that don't follow its rules.

Ok, how does Christianity avoid that?

Actually no, not really, even in Monarchies the Kings had to follow rules man. Heck, most western countries don't even have monarchies anymore. Most are democratic. A lot less war and death happened when absolute power was no longer given to kings politically.

So does Jesus equal no rules? I'm trying to figure out where all this fits together man.

Its because man is in confusion still from day 1. Thats why the world is like it is. It doesn't have full enlightenment. Laws are good and bad, obviously some laws are good, like do not steal, but who live under spiritual law and has wisdom does not steal anyhow, because they love there neighbours, they don't need a Law to tell them. People under spiritual truth don't not steal because the law tells them, they have wisdom and know its not the right thing to do because they would not like it done to them. They dont need a Law.

You said Christianity does have rules as well, as well as an eternal punishment for people that don't follow its rules.


What rules?. The only rules Jesus gave was Love God and Love Others. He said if you love me like i love you follow the commandments, Love God and Love others.

There is no eternal punishment thats not true and not what the bible says, and that's also caused confusion because many who are not christian thats the first thing they know about christianity. If they don't believe in God or sin they go to hell forever type thing. Thats false.

Not many find the Kingdom and the narrow path.

 

[Soul man]

I can say that a decent chunk of the "world" reject Christianity is because to combination of the Laws, how redemption works, why redemption is there/needed, the origin of life, The origin of the world, many stories within the Bible, come into conflict with what many people have discovered since the Bible's canonization.

Once you get past the base level cultural aspect of Christianity, it starts diverging into what most nation consider very old world philosophy when the world was ran by empires and individual rights weren't a thing yet. just saying its a pretty deep well.

The world is perfect for what the Father wants. I used religion as a base for why the world rejeccts God, but there are many reasons.
Sin nature, causes an individual to live for themselves as their own god.
The philosophy of the masses will never excuse that sin that was dealt a death blow at the cross, "You must be born-again."
Revelation is imparative to the believer, without it there is not much difference in thinking and lifestyle.
Christ revealed is "the gospel," we have no other doctrine. Man has interpreted the word to the point of believers being so confused they will either follow whatever comes down the pike, or adapt an escapism mentally of leaving this world so they hopefully will finally understand truth. The situation in the world is perfect for what the Father is doing, he created all things by Christ and by Him they consist.
This is not the devils world, it's the Fathers schoolhouse.