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actually pard is right, when i was talking to a witch, the time period i spent talking to her ( i was single and she was attractive) my neice got sick, car broke down, and and also my neice had nightmares, and a cloud of darkness would follow her. when i ceased talking to this person most of the troubles went away.

she cast spells, and was possesed and claimed that she lived three differents lives. she knew that i had psychic gifts, and encouraged me to use them. i wasnt totally set free from that stuff, then, but i am now.

but that is another story as i didnt do witchcraft like she did, totaly different.
 
jasoncran said:
actually pard is right, when i was talking to a witch, the time period i spent talking to her ( i was single and she was attractive) my neice got sick, car broke down, and and also my neice had nightmares, and a cloud of darkness would follow her.
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And if you hadn't been talking to this witch, all of these occurences would have happened for a different set of reasons. It's like when I was younger and my friends told me they were playing with a ouiji board and got all freaked out because the light in the basement flickered. Lights flicker all the time so why are they associated with the devil with the addition of a ouiji board?

jasoncran said:
she cast spells, and was possesed and claimed that she lived three differents lives. she knew that i had psychic gifts, and encouraged me to use them. i wasnt totally set free from that stuff, then, but i am now.
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Just goes to show you that if you believe in something enough it becomes 'real'. Our minds are quite capable of fooling us.

cheers
 
seekandlisten said:
jasoncran said:
actually pard is right, when i was talking to a witch, the time period i spent talking to her ( i was single and she was attractive) my neice got sick, car broke down, and and also my neice had nightmares, and a cloud of darkness would follow her.
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And if you hadn't been talking to this witch, all of these occurences would have happened for a different set of reasons. It's like when I was younger and my friends told me they were playing with a ouiji board and got all freaked out because the light in the basement flickered. Lights flicker all the time so why are they associated with the devil with the addition of a ouiji board?

jasoncran said:
she cast spells, and was possesed and claimed that she lived three differents lives. she knew that i had psychic gifts, and encouraged me to use them. i wasnt totally set free from that stuff, then, but i am now.
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Just goes to show you that if you believe in something enough it becomes 'real'. Our minds are quite capable of fooling us.

cheers
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yup,just like you know that theres no God, just goes to show that there cant be a god if i beleived that.
 
jasoncran said:
yup,just like you know that theres no God, just goes to show that there cant be a god if i beleived that.
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hmmmm......when have I said there is no 'God'? There are many people who believe without a doubt that their is no God/gods but we do have a history of people believing in many different gods. Are all claims false and nothing more than myths? Alan Watts once said, "A myth is an image in terms of which we try to make sense of the world." We are each entitled to our own beliefs, but I think logic and reason should come into play and refusing evidence based on 'faith' shouldn't be encouraged.

I did a simple test, this was just for me personally so don't pretend like i'm putting this forth as proof for everyone, to find out about 'demon possession' because I've heard many claims to which some just seem ridiculous. I have given 'demons' full permission to 'possess' me and nothing has happened yet so I have come to realize 1 of 2 possible conclusions.
1. Demon possession does not exist.
2. Darkness simply cannot dwell in light.

Maybe I'll be proved wrong one day but until then 'tales' based on fear don't really sway me.

cheers
 
by claiming that satan doesnt exist neither could the christian god, not that he needs the devil to be, but the bible itsself would be false and that god wouldnt be a real god at all.

does satan cause all things no, but i know what i have seen and felt. i dont scare easily anymore, nor is my mind that weak. several days before she told me of her lives, i was told by god what she would say.

you listen to zen which believes in dmt, aka meditiation and also used by witches. wicca, and all witchcraft beleive in power over nature, and using it to control the world, but they dont present that to the outsiders.
 
jasoncran said:
wicca, and all witchcraft beleive in power over nature, and using it to control the world, but they dont present that to the outsiders.
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Funny, I thought Wiccan's believe in the reverence of nature. Some religions tend to think that other religions have some sort of secret agenda all the time that outsiders don't get told about but that doesn't mean its a true statement.

cheers
 
seekandlisten said:
jasoncran said:
wicca, and all witchcraft beleive in power over nature, and using it to control the world, but they dont present that to the outsiders.
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Funny, I thought Wiccan's believe in the reverence of nature. Some religions tend to think that other religions have some sort of secret agenda all the time that outsiders don't get told about but that doesn't mean its a true statement.

cheers
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not in that manner, one uses the power of nature or spiritual forces to have control.

i know one and when i heard him talk it was the same thing that i was into.
almost word for word.
 
jasoncran said:
one uses the power of nature or spiritual forces to have control.
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I wonder how far a 'witch' would get with their 'control' by using the 'power of nature' or 'spiritual forces' if those listening just thought these claims had as much weight as claiming that the spirit of Elvis granted them power and others should believe as well or bad thing would happen to them. It's an interesting thought.

cheers
 
seekandlisten said:
jasoncran said:
one uses the power of nature or spiritual forces to have control.
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I wonder how far a 'witch' would get with their 'control' by using the 'power of nature' or 'spiritual forces' if those listening just thought these claims had as much weight as claiming that the spirit of Elvis granted them power and others should believe as well or bad thing would happen to them. It's an interesting thought.

cheers
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not far, they do claim alot, well unless one believes in the voodoo things, and some of the demonic things already mentioned.
 
Clémentine said:
Hello. A friend of mine has recently come forward and told me that she is a Wiccan. We've been friends for several years and while I didn't know she was serious about Wicca I did know that she wasn't a Christian. She's always been very accepting of my beliefs and interested in hearing what I think about different issues. She's also been willing to come to church with my family in the past and isn't hostile at all. Anyway, she's started telling me a little about why Wicca is meaningful to her and has said that since she's always been willing to look at other belief systems I should take a look at hers. I said I would read a bit about it online but she asked me if I would be willing to observe (not take part, just watch) either her solitary practise or her group when they meet. She's told me she doesn't do serious spellcasting at this point since she's a novice and that her group meetings are generally not about working magic but about communing with nature. Apparently, they have a bonfire on the beach, read, talk about their experiences and pray. Some members do perform spells but she said it's not a big deal, mostly something like lighting a candle and thinking about areas they'd like help with, burning incense or something simple, not potions or big productions. Her solitary practise is also lighting candles, expressing reverence for the elements and reading. She's told me I wouldn't be expected to do anything, say anything or touch anything and nothing would be done to me or involving me, I would just be observing the way she does when she's come to church and watched us sing, pray and listen to the sermon. I'm interested in learning about it but also a little scared. She is a very nice and genuine person, friendly and open and I have a hard time believing she's associated with anything malicious. Any ideas or advice?
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I would say this TOTALLY depends on how strong your faith is. I used to be into wicca and all that before i got saved and they mean well. i have found lately that actually hearing other people's beliefs helps me to understand how to show them what part of what they believe is true and what is not why Christianity is THE TRUTH. But you've got to be really strong in your faith or it will influence you negatively. I would totally agree though, the fact the she is open to your religion means that the Holy Spirit is working on her. She needs Jesus and inside she knows it. She is starting to want you to understand her better because then you will understand how to better witness to her. That is my opinion. But again that line must be tread VERY carefully. If you begin to see that her religion makes sense, RUN!! But if you begin to see into her heart exactly what she is searching for, then you've got SERIOUS ammunition to win her to Jesus. I am currently doing this with a new age friend of mine and it is working. I listen to what she believes and I'm having a GREAT DEAL more success than I did when I was refusing to hear her. I can SEE what she is seeking and now I know how to share the gospel with her in a way she understands. The Word is being sown and it's working!!!
 
otherwise well i wont divulge the name of the person you mention wouldnt be so open, but you may only plant the seed. and another will reap it. or water it.
 
faithtransforms said:
jasoncran said:
otherwise well i wont divulge the name of the person you mention wouldnt be so open, but you may only plant the seed. and another will reap it. or water it.
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exactly!!!
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i recall an argument over this person a while back.lol
 
jasoncran said:
actually pard is right, when i was talking to a witch, the time period i spent talking to her ( i was single and she was attractive) my neice got sick, car broke down, and and also my neice had nightmares, and a cloud of darkness would follow her. when i ceased talking to this person most of the troubles went away.

but that is another story as i didnt do witchcraft like she did, totally different.
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I think we sometimes give witches etc more credit than they are due. They are people like us except we got lucky and heard the word of god and obeyed. I wouldn't worry bout people who conjure up fairy's and eat toadstools or give to much credit to it causing bad things to happen. Tell you the truth the few I I have spoke to were pretty nice people. But I didn't really get to know them much because of my habit of avoiding all things creepy.

None of us if we live long enough escape the rule of getting back what we give out and I wouldn't imagine people who practice these things are exempt.
 
@Chris said:
jasoncran said:
actually pard is right, when i was talking to a witch, the time period i spent talking to her ( i was single and she was attractive) my neice got sick, car broke down, and and also my neice had nightmares, and a cloud of darkness would follow her. when i ceased talking to this person most of the troubles went away.

but that is another story as i didnt do witchcraft like she did, totally different.
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I think we sometimes give witches etc more credit than they are due. They are people like us except we got lucky and heard the word of god and obeyed. I wouldn't worry bout people who conjure up fairy's and eat toadstools or give to much credit to it causing bad things to happen. Tell you the truth the few I I have spoke to were pretty nice people. But I didn't really get to know them much because of my habit of avoiding all things creepy.

None of us if we live long enough escape the rule of getting back what we give out and I wouldn't imagine people who practice these things are exempt.
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you are very unfamilar with wicca, its not that she cast spells to harm but to get something, they called white magic, wiccan dont curse.
 
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you are very unfamilar with wicca, its not that she cast spells to harm but to get something, they called white magic, wiccan dont curse.
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the way it read me was as though bad events were attributed to her (witch),in your reply. If i read it wrong sorry

Your right about that I don't know a great deal about the differences in these practices as it seems not something good to read too much about.

My ex girlfriend was into wicca and it has those beliefs and we still chat often. I thought Wicca was a bit more flower power type thing, thats why I was joking about fairies.
 
the demons that she was possesed by not the spells as she was a possesed person. the spells isnt what i was talking about that caused the problems.


all new age and witchcraft sound like the hippies, as the hippies borrowed alot from the new age thing. vibes, =aural vibrations, and what energy a person gives off.
 
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