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witchcraft

Ok, simply put, STRAIGHT FROM THE HOLY SCRIPTURES:

Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Are you serving God or Satan? If you are not serving God then you are serving Satan whether or not you have made a conscious decision to be Satans servant. When you choose to sin you choose to serve Satan. Let Jesus help you to serve God, resist Satan, and make heaven your eternal home someday.

But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:

21For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

22The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

23But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!

24No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
 
Biblereader said:
Potluck said:
That's the first step to liberalizing scripture... redefining terms to fit the social standard we want endorsed.
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Would you define liberalizing scripture?
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"redefining terms to fit the social standard we want endorsed."
Massaging scripture to fit/support trends of social tolerance, attempts to make sin OK.





Orion said:
Agreed. . . . regardless of the culture's view on a man running, it was an act of love from the father to save his son from the shame and possible bodily damage from those of the village. It's one of the best parables one can find in the Bible.
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Hey Orion, check out what I found :-D
http://www.wordfm.com/MinistryAudio/Grace_to_You/
 
Would you define liberalizing scripture?

"redefining terms to fit the social standard we want endorsed."
Massaging scripture to fit/support trends of social tolerance, attempts to make sin OK.

Ok, good. Just checking.
:)
 
No, we are to ONLY call God, Father. We aren't to stop.
9: And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

God is our Father, because we are his children, when we're born again. God is the perfect Father.
All others fall short, and all other fathers, or dads, are tainted with sin. God is holy. God is the ONLY HOLY FATHER!
 
Biblereader said:
No, we are to ONLY call God, Father. We aren't to stop.
9: And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

God is our Father, because we are his children, when we're born again. God is the perfect Father.
All others fall short, and all other fathers, or dads, are tainted with sin. God is holy. God is the ONLY HOLY FATHER!
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A misplaced post perhaps?
 
Hi Guys, I tried to read through the past five pages and try to get up to speed, but there is much witchcraft in the Body of Christ, and it has been infiltrating for the past two decades, and now the Body has been so desensitised that they wouldn't know what is evil and what is good these days.

As Scripture says, "Woe is they day when evil is called good and good is called evil"!

Now as the youngs ones use to say years ago, "Your wicked!"
 
Malachi45 said:
Hi Guys, I tried to read through the past five pages and try to get up to speed, but there is much witchcraft in the Body of Christ, and it has been infiltrating for the past two decades, and now the Body has been so desensitised that they wouldn't know what is evil and what is good these days.

As Scripture says, "Woe is they day when evil is called good and good is called evil"!

Now as the youngs ones use to say years ago, "Your wicked!"
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Uh, . . Malachi45, . . . . you CANNOT make such a statement without telling us what you mean AND giving evidence of it. :-?
 
Biblereader said:
Ok, simply put, STRAIGHT FROM THE HOLY SCRIPTURES:

Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Are you serving God or Satan? If you are not serving God then you are serving Satan whether or not you have made a conscious decision to be Satans servant. When you choose to sin you choose to serve Satan. Let Jesus help you to serve God, resist Satan, and make heaven your eternal home someday.
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So, then God created Satan as a creature with no truth. That would make absolutely no sense, would it? :-?
 
Potluck said:
Biblereader said:
No, we are to ONLY call God, Father. We aren't to stop.
9: And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

God is our Father, because we are his children, when we're born again. God is the perfect Father.
All others fall short, and all other fathers, or dads, are tainted with sin. God is holy. God is the ONLY HOLY FATHER!
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A misplaced post perhaps?
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No, this was a reply to Orion's post, in this thread:
by Orion on Wed Apr 16, 2008 6:14 am
Okay, . . . . . so then let's stop calling him "Father"! :-?

Are we going to be praising and worshipping around the "throne of God" (as if God is actually sitting on some big chair. . . ) . . . . for all eternity? Don't misread my words as sarcasm, but the fact that we (humans) place so many human characteristics on God which are unlikely to be true.
 
My goodness, people sure have weird ideas about what Witchcraft is.
 
Orion said:
Havoc, what is your idea about what witchcraft is?
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Witchcraft is the craft of Witches.

Witches are practitioners and adherents of various pre-Christian religions of Northern Europe, specifically Celtic and Germanic, or modern recreations of the same.

ie

Wicca
Asatruar
Druidism
Celtic Recontructionism
etc
 
Havoc said:
Possibly, but unlikely, since I am a Witch.
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If you have no weird ideas about witchcraft since you are a witch then it follows that we have no weird ideas about Christianity since we are christians. Yet those ideas oppose each other.
Therefore there must be another determining factor between the two.

The God of Christianity opposes witchcraft. The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, God of the bible, warns christians against witchcraft. We know that. How does your God stand concerning Christianity? Our God and your God cannot be one and the same.
 
Potluck said:
If you have no weird ideas about witchcraft since you are a witch then it follows that we have no weird ideas about Christianity since we are christians. Yet those ideas oppose each other.
Therefore there must be another determining factor between the two.
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I think you may have misinterpreted my meaning. As a Witch of many years, well studied and a minister of a congregation, I have a very good knowledge of what Witchcraft is. It is more likely that a non-Witch would have weird ideas about what Witchcraft is, than for a Witch to have them.

Just as it is more likely for a Christian to know what Christianity is, than a non-Christian.

What you believe a Witch is and does and believes, is by definition, less authoratative than what a Witch believes a Witch is and does and bleieves.


The God of Christianity opposes witchcraft. The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, God of the bible, warns christians against witchcraft.
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Actually, the Bible, in it's original languages, makes no mention of Witchcraft. This is not surprising, since the people of the Bible would have had no opprotunity to ever encounter a Witch, being over a continent apart geographically. The word translated in the KJV as "Witch" was placed there by the insistence of King James, who derived much income, and pleasure, from killing people accused of Witchcraft.

We know that.
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People aall throughout history have "known" things that were completely wrong. People all ovewr the world "know" things which are incompatible with your beliefs. This is why "knowing" is not a very good indicator of truth.

[/quote]How does your God stand concerning Christianity?
We don't spend a lot of time discussing your religion, actually. I suspect he's very pleased with some Christians, and not so pleased with others. But then again, He is God, so he doessn't need my opinion on how to deal with His other children.

[quote:0e14c]Our God and your God cannot be one and the same.
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So you say. personally I wouldn't presume to tell God what He can or cannot be.
 
Havoc said:
Orion said:
Havoc, what is your idea about what witchcraft is?
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Witchcraft is the craft of Witches.

Witches are practitioners and adherents of various pre-Christian religions of Northern Europe, specifically Celtic and Germanic, or modern recreations of the same.

ie

Wicca
Asatruar
Druidism
Celtic Recontructionism
etc
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Oh, Okay,. . . . then you were probabaly right in your statement then. :)
 
Havoc said:
Actually, the Bible, in it's original languages, makes no mention of Witchcraft.
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I think you'll have a hard time substantiating that claim Hebrew or Greek.

Here are just a few samples:

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[attachment=1:72f9a]witch3.jpg[/attachment:72f9a]

[attachment=0:72f9a]witch4.jpg[/attachment:72f9a]
 
Actually I can substantiate it from the hebrew and greek.

I wrote an essay on the subject a couple of years after I left seminary. I don't want to post it just yet as it may be seen contrary to the TOS. If you will permit it, Potluck, I will send you a copy privately so you can approve it for posting, or not as the case may be.
 
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