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Wormwood

I agree with you, but also would like to add this:
  • Zechariah 14:12
    This will be the plague the LORD strikes all the peoples with, who have warred against Jerusalem: their flesh will rot while they stand on their feet, their eyes will rot in their sockets, and their tongues will rot in their mouths.


Thanks mdo757. You may be correct as well with reference to Zechariah 14:12 in relation to the Enhanced Radiation Device (ERD), a thermonuclear assembly that minimizes blast effects in order to magnify an abrupt propagation of lethal gamma ray and neutron particle emissions, a.k.a., the Neutron Bomb.
 
Geo said:
Differentiate between the 2nd and 3rd angel, and you will see 2 events.

Rev 8:10 And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters;

there fell a great star from heaven, and the name of the star is called Wormwood.

No doubt, a star will fall from heaven.

Before that, the 2nd angel relates to : The destroying mountain becomes a burning mountain.

Jer 51:25  Behold, I am against thee, O destroying mountain, saith the LORD, which destroyest all the earth: and I will stretch out mine hand upon thee, and roll thee down from the rocks, and will make thee a burnt mountain.

Rev 8:8  And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood;

That's identical, and the context of Jer 50 and 51 is Babylon, physical continent, described both as a mountain and "the hammer of the whole earth"

Jer 50:23  How is the hammer of the whole earth cut asunder and broken! how is Babylon become a desolation among the nations!
goood post thanks for that!

My husband and i were looking at this recently and it appears that These are spiritual forces being cast down to earth. Stars in the word of God are Either angels(as i believe it is in this case) or the seed of abraham which is us. It appears that the stars being cast down in this chapter are the kingdom of satan with his angels, the spirit of harlotry, and the spirit of perdition. I believe this corresponds to satan being cast to earth with his angels having only a short time- and the Lord pouring out the spirits that cause the falling away ( the strong delusion that He will send). I am going to look more closely at the verses you posted to see if babylon falling in the end of revelation is about this spirit falling to earth or about the actual manifestation of it being overcome by the kingdom of God at the end.
 
highwic said:
THATS RIGHT because the last time the dwarf star was here was in Jeremiah's day approx 3500 yrs ago
he referred to it as the destroyer and its close now , by the end of July it will be the size of a full moon
and by mid Aug covering 1 fifth of the sky and Rev 8 v 7 kicks off BIG TIME
some dimentions
it is Jupiter size = 1300 Earths
Jupiter's mass = 300 times Earths
Wormwood's mass = 20-60 times Jupiter's
ancient manuscripts are here http://www.thekolbrin.com/kolbrin_b5.html ch's 3,4,5
Ancient Egyptian manuscripts? Really now? :confused

Well, August is not too far away, so, we'll see. :chin Honestly, all you date-setters have learned nothing from "date-setting history". :yes
 
highwic said:
Vic C. said:
The real name of the celestial body in question is 2003 VB12, or SEDNA. It is neither a star or even a planet. It's about 1,000 miles in diameter. It's orbit is so far out in our solar system, it takes aprox. 10,000 years to complete one orbit.

For more details look at my you tube channel
It would benefit us (and you) if you were to provide a link instead. :yes

http://www.youtube.com/user/highwic
In regards to the planet named Wormwood. What do you think happens when two worlds collide?
 
Geo said:
sounds like too early. For impact anyway. Try to find another source to verifiy its identity. Who came up with that course and timing projection?

Also, look at this causality: another (or same) 2nd angel I found:

Rev 14:8  And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.

Rev 14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

unless these angels follow each other in very short succession, it could mean Babylon is fallen before Wormwood crashes and before the mark of the beast.

something I previously arrived at - coming from a totally different perspective.

I am the source..........since Early Aug to late Dec there were clear night skies every night where I
live,by late Dec I could see with the naked eye heat coming off WW and its moons
I have tracked its course from an eastern horizon position at dusk in Aug to a western horizon position at dusk in mid Feb. If you want to see it on sky charts for the last 6 months just look where the LIARS have put Jupiter
 
highwic said:
I am the source..........since Early Aug to late Dec there were clear night skies every night where I
live,by late Dec I could see with the naked eye heat coming off WW and its moons
I have tracked its course from an eastern horizon position at dusk in Aug to a western horizon position at dusk in mid Feb. If you want to see it on sky charts for the last 6 months just look where the LIARS have put Jupiter
I would like to commend you for stepping out and saying something, that takes courage. However, I think you need to re-evaluate. There will be a large stone that will strike the foot of Mystery Babylon. [Italy] That may take place in the year 2127 AD of October. Two days from the fall of Israel is 2133 AD.
 
mdo757 said:
highwic said:
I am the source..........since Early Aug to late Dec there were clear night skies every night where I
live,by late Dec I could see with the naked eye heat coming off WW and its moons
I have tracked its course from an eastern horizon position at dusk in Aug to a western horizon position at dusk in mid Feb. If you want to see it on sky charts for the last 6 months just look where the LIARS have put Jupiter
I would like to commend you for stepping out and saying something, that takes courage. However, I think you need to re-evaluate. There will be a large stone that will strike the foot of Mystery Babylon. [Italy] That may take place in the year 2127 AD of October. Two days from the fall of Israel is 2133 AD.

there will be no re-evaluating PERIOD !!!!!!!!!!!
 
Zechariah 14:12
This will be the plague the LORD strikes all the peoples with, who have warred against Jerusalem: their flesh will rot while they stand on their feet, their eyes will rot in their sockets, and their tongues will rot in their mouths.

Malachi 4:3
Then you will trample down the wicked; they will be ashes under the soles of your feet on the day when I do these things," says the LORD Almighty.

2 Peter 2:6
if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;...[/quote]

It is a presumption on my part that this may take place around 2037 to 2067. Best guess.
 
Congratulations highwic, you do have a case. I did some research, also wading through 'lunatic fringe' material. Looks like wormwood will have its time with us until end of December 2011. That date could be the actual crash date, according to people that follow its tracks since 2003.

Unfortunately most sources are a bit 'far out there' -- athough not as far as mdo757 in his last three posts. :D
 
Geo said:
Congratulations highwic, you do have a case. I did some research, also wading through 'lunatic fringe' material. Looks like wormwood will have its time with us until end of December 2011. That date could be the actual crash date, according to people that follow its tracks since 2003.

Unfortunately most sources are a bit 'far out there' - although not as far as mdo757 in his last two posts.
At least I use scriptures, but you come here empty handed. Lets see some documents!
 
I have seen people wade through the 'lunatic fringe' material before, only to pick up on some nasties along the way. Do you remember Heaven’s Gate and the Hale Bopp comet? How do we know if you meditate on Godly precepts day and night?
 
Based on these 2 of your predictions:

"There will be a large stone that will strike the foot of Mystery Babylon. [Italy] That may take place in the year 2127 AD of October. Two days from the fall of Israel is 2133 AD."

"It is a presumption on my part that this may take place around 2037 to 2067. Best guess."

we would need to start from scratch. If you can take the heat, I'll bring you up to speed, starting tomorrow. Let's start with Babylon. But maybe it's better you would be able to see this thing appear in the sky first. Maybe it's easier then to realize a few things about our current time, and your timing?
 
Geo said:
Based on these 2 of your predictions:

"There will be a large stone that will strike the foot of Mystery Babylon. [Italy] That may take place in the year 2127 AD of October. Two days from the fall of Israel is 2133 AD."

"It is a presumption on my part that this may take place around 2037 to 2067. Best guess."

we would need to start from scratch. If you can take the heat, I'll bring you up to speed, starting tomorrow. Let's start with Babylon. But maybe it's better you would be able to see this thing appear in the sky first. Maybe it's easier then to realize a few things about our current time, and your timing?
What you fail to understand is that it takes time for the prophecies to be fulfilled. With the world being destroyed by two thirds, there will be survivors; and at a later date they will also be destroyed, leaving the world population greatly reduced when Christ returns. At least what I say is based upon scriptures. :yes

Hosea 6

1 "Come, let us return to the LORD.
He has torn us to pieces
but he will heal us;
he has injured us
but he will bind up our wounds.
2 After two days he will revive us;
on the third day he will restore us,

that we may live in his presence.

2 Peter 3:8
But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.
 
Geo said:
Based on these 2 of your predictions:
we would need to start from scratch. If you can take the heat, I'll bring you up to speed, starting tomorrow. Let's start with Babylon. But maybe it's better you would be able to see this thing appear in the sky first. Maybe it's easier then to realize a few things about our current time, and your timing?
Youuu whooo, wherrre arrre youuu. Hellooo. ? Lol. :rolling
 
highwic said:
THATS RIGHT because the last time the dwarf star was here was in Jeremiah's day approx 3500 yrs ago
he referred to it as the destroyer and its close now , by the end of July it will be the size of a full moon
and by mid Aug covering 1 fifth of the sky and Rev 8 v 7 kicks off BIG TIME
some dimentions
it is Jupiter size = 1300 Earths
Jupiter's mass = 300 times Earths
Wormwood's mass = 20-60 times Jupiter's
ancient manuscripts are here http://www.thekolbrin.com/kolbrin_b5.html ch's 3,4,5
We have some super heated methane going on here alright. :rolling
 
Geo said:
Based on these 2 of your predictions:

"There will be a large stone that will strike the foot of Mystery Babylon. [Italy] That may take place in the year 2127 AD of October. Two days from the fall of Israel is 2133 AD."

"It is a presumption on my part that this may take place around 2037 to 2067. Best guess."

we would need to start from scratch. If you can take the heat, I'll bring you up to speed, starting tomorrow. Let's start with Babylon. But maybe it's better you would be able to see this thing appear in the sky first. Maybe it's easier then to realize a few things about our current time, and your timing?

yea we should just let him hang himself on his outrageous dates :rolling :rolling :rolling
 
highwic said:
Geo said:
Based on these 2 of your predictions:

"There will be a large stone that will strike the foot of Mystery Babylon. [Italy] That may take place in the year 2127 AD of October. Two days from the fall of Israel is 2133 AD."

"It is a presumption on my part that this may take place around 2037 to 2067. Best guess."

we would need to start from scratch. If you can take the heat, I'll bring you up to speed, starting tomorrow. Let's start with Babylon. But maybe it's better you would be able to see this thing appear in the sky first. Maybe it's easier then to realize a few things about our current time, and your timing?

yea we should just let him hang himself on his outrageous dates :rolling :rolling :rolling
You need to improve on your reading skills. I used the words "may take place" and "presumption," and "best guess." Now if you are done twisting my words, then let's see your facts that you were to present.
 
highwic said:
David505 said:
Revelation 8 may authenticate the appalling spectacle of an intercontinental nuclear exchange. In this regard, John compares the conflagration to “hail and fire mingled with blood (Rev. 8:7); a great mountain burning with fire (Rev. 8:8); [and] a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp (Rev. 8:10).†In fact, the fusion reaction is the same process that powers the stars. After a nuclear strike, weather systems distribute radionuclide derivatives throughout the environment contaminating the ecosystem’s air, soil, ocean, and freshwater supplies. “Wormwood†is from the Greek apsinthos (Strong 894), with reference to the bitter herb, Artemisia absinthium. In antiquity, folk preparations of the plant’s oily extract alleviated digestive ailments, fever, and infection. Wormwood–based concoctions also enhanced the potent liqueur, absinthe. Alternatively, an overdose of the active ingredients, santonin and thujone, elicits disturbed vision, tremor, and convulsion. The plant’s insecticidal properties benefit gardens. In scripture, wormwood evokes the mordant recompense of idolatry and infidelity: “Her end is bitter as wormwood, sharp as a two–edged sword (Prov. 5:4).†In John’s context, wormwood is synonymous with “bitter†from the Greek pikraino (Strong 4087), meaning to make bitter, or to embitter in an abstract sense of piercing; for example, as the sharply acute calamity of poison rivers and springs: “many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter (Rev. 8: 11).†You can click the following links to learn about the devastating potential of nuclear weaponry:

http://www.nuclearfiles.org

http://www.atomicarchive.com

dont bother miss quoting bible versus to me

Rev 8 v7 The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.

all the worlds grass burnt up and a third of the trees and you think a nuclear exchange. get serious
it is the super heated methane atmosphere of Wormwood mixing with Earths
Rev 8 v 8 says And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was
cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood;

that description clearly indicates a meteor or asteroid type thing hitting an ocean

Rev 8 v 11 And the name of the star is called Wormwood and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.

And the NAME of the STAR is called WORMWOOD

Thanks highwic, although I’m certain I did not misquote scripture.

Regarding “get seriousâ€â€¦

Consider the following assessments of the 1954 fifteen-megaton Castle–Bravo nuclear device detonated at Bikini Atoll:

“The Bravo crater in the atoll reef had a diameter of 6510 ft, with a depth of 250 ft. Within one minute the mushroom cloud had reached 50,000 feet (15 km), breaking 100,000 feet (30 km) two minutes later. The cloud top rose and peaked at 130,000 feet (almost 40 km) after only six minutes. Eight minutes after the test the cloud had reached its full dimensions with a diameter of 100 km, a stem 7 km thick, and a cloud bottom rising above 55,000 feet (16.5 km).†[1]

“The entire Bikini Atoll was contaminated to varying degrees and plans for conducting test operations from the islands, including use of the firing bunker, had to be abandoned. All further Castle tests were controlled by radio link from the USS Estes.†[2]

“After this test the exclusion zone around the Castle tests was increased to 570,000 square miles, a circle 850 miles across (for comparison this is equal to about 1% of the entire Earth's land area).†[3]

“There are currently about 31,000 nuclear warheads deployed or in reserve in the stockpiles of eight countries…Of these about 13,000 are deployed and 4,600 of these are on high alert, i.e. ready to be launched within minutes notice. The combined explosive yield of these weapons is approximately 5,000 megatons…†[4]


[1] http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Usa/Tests/Castle.html

[2] Ibid.

[3] Ibid.

[4] http://www.nuclearfiles.org/menu/key-is ... kpiles.htm
 
mdo757 said:
highwic said:
Geo said:
Based on these 2 of your predictions:

"There will be a large stone that will strike the foot of Mystery Babylon. [Italy] That may take place in the year 2127 AD of October. Two days from the fall of Israel is 2133 AD."

"It is a presumption on my part that this may take place around 2037 to 2067. Best guess."

we would need to start from scratch. If you can take the heat, I'll bring you up to speed, starting tomorrow. Let's start with Babylon. But maybe it's better you would be able to see this thing appear in the sky first. Maybe it's easier then to realize a few things about our current time, and your timing?

yea we should just let him hang himself on his outrageous dates :rolling :rolling :rolling
You need to improve on your reading skills. I used the words "may take place" and "presumption," and "best guess." Now if you are done twisting my words, then let's see your facts that you were to present.

my fact is in the sky cruising along at 20,000-30,000 mph and soon will be visible for all to see this year , not some pie in the sky estimate or presumption like yours
 
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