Xism

[electricaluser]

The philosophy of Jesus Christ is shared by all true Christians. If it is a philsophy which cannot be measured by the Gospel delivered unto the saints, it is a false gospel, and their Jesus is at best a contrivance of their own making, and at worst the spirit of Antichrist.

Yeah that's true, but do you know what that means.

 

[Blake]

Yeah that's true, but do you know what that means.

I imagine we believe it means two radically different things.

 

[Brother Mike]

Maybe because I would blindly believe without a proof. And I have not got any proper sign that God wants me to believe into this religion.



Well, yeah I can sign to this.
Everyone can believe what he/she wants.
I can't give away my freedom to be what I am - and christianity would be doing it to me.

Without proof? Look around.

 

[Free]

Lets reason together Blake, if people like deep cant have their own personal philosophy about Jesus, but they also can't have anyone elses personal philosophy about Jesus, and they can only have your personal philosophy about Jesus. Then which Jesus do they have?

This is why the Church exists, why the Church holds to certain beliefs regarding Jesus--so there is only one. Jesus is who the Bible reveals him to be and we cannot believe any different.

 

[Free]

Ok now I know you are deceiving me because we all know there are more Christian churches than just one, and you are very sneaky to because you knew that and knew you couldn't name one because all the others would refute you.

Do not again suggest that there is deception; there is absolutely no deception in what I said. The term, "the Church," simply refers to the Church as a whole--all those churches, or perhaps better, the entire body of believers, that are truly Christian.

There is a right Christology which falls under orthodoxy, or "right belief." Christian churches believe the same about Jesus or they're not Christian. Who Jesus is, is central to salvation; to believe in a different Jesus is to not have salvation.

 

[Mike]

electricaluser I kindly suggest you step aside and promote your agent in a different thread. It's done nothing but take the focus off the OP. I hope this wasn't your intent.

deep'n'dark, exactly what is it you're hoping to achieve here? As a mere part-time member, I can tell you CFnet is not the place to educate Christians on your own created world view. Not being the traffic police here. Just saying if there are questions that can be discussed, this would take on a different tenor.

 

[Corn Pop]

Did you make Xism up yourself deep.

Thats what people do when there lost,bored and confused, what man has done ever since the early, they make movements and/or gods.

I mean, this xism movement is just as hilarious as the flying spaghetti monsters. I think they had about 3 members and it lasted about 2 days.

 

[Northman]

I have felt the dew from Zion upon my head, and the wind of the Spirit upon my face, and the fire sealed within my bones.

Dont want to derail, but cant seem to start a conversation. Can you tell me what this is like?

 

[deep'n'dark]

You are following your own personal philosophy, based upon your feelings. And I have seen greater miracles than walking on water. What fruit has your ism produced, besides appealing to your own sense of ego and identity? What basis does it have, beyond your own reasoning? Christianity cannot be put on the same playing field as your ism, because Christianity wasn't contrived by one person. I'll tell you what, to be fair, I'll give you 3.5 years, the same amount of time Jesus had, to share your gospel. We will see if it has any consequence for the next 2,000 years on this planet. Your belief is just a very person-centric form of universalism. Can't you see that at the end of the day, you're just another person scratching his head at the issue of existentialism, trying to make heads or tails of it? Do you think that you are qualified rationally, philosophically, mentally, and spiritually, as compared to history's great mystics and theologians, to create your own system of belief?

Why should I not follow my personal philosophy? At least it's not based on lies.
Evereyone has some kind of EGO, including you, but Bible is full of paranormal happenings that can't be done anymore by the others. And that's becuase bible is full of lies! You give me 3,5 years? I need only 1 minute - which would be re-pasting the same starting text of my own ism.
I can do better than bible, so I'm not really scratching my head here.

 

[smaller]

Why should I not follow my personal philosophy? At least it's not based on lies.
Evereyone has some kind of EGO, including you, but Bible is full of paranormal happenings that can't be done anymore by the others. And that's becuase bible is full of lies! You give me 3,5 years? I need only 1 minute - which would be re-pasting the same starting text of my own ism.
I can do better than bible, so I'm not really scratching my head here.

Jesus teaches us that all of mankind is born naturally blinded to spiritual matters. We are taught to enter into spiritual matters of Love, Mercy, Grace, forgiveness, and particularly, judgments of the vile, which "unbelievers" are blinded slaves of, following various lusts and imaginations, which are abundantly delivered to the "material" self centered, terminal world and all it's blinded inhabitants.

We are taught to divide ourselves from our natural blinded nature, and not to be slaves to the lesser elements of our blinded nature, or to think such things are good and acceptable, when they are not.

God has also provided everyone with a small taste of the Divine Spirit, which is LOVE. Most people, even the worst, can look to such things as a potential toehold to come to understand Him. There is no difference between Jesus and Love, in it's purest sense. And to Him, To Love, we are turned, and divided from the lesser elements.

 

[deep'n'dark]

It's "Universal Wisdom" that has already been before Jesus was born. (wait a second, mother Maria became pregmant becuase God was an alien and it was possible)???. Anyway, it wasn't Jesus who invented love. It already existed before that.

 

[smaller]

It's "Universal Wisdom" that has already been before Jesus was born. (wait a second, mother Maria became pregmant becuase God was an alien and it was possible)???. Anyway, it wasn't Jesus who invented love. It already existed before that.

Romans 11:32
For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.

People who are bound to the spirit of disobedience do not know they are slaves and subservients of same, and think it is "just them." It's not. The spirit of disobedience is the wicked overlord of the mind and heart, which holds men fast and tight, as slaves to various lusts and dead end pursuits.

Ephesians 2:2
Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

When believers witness Jesus to others, they do not witness just to the individual, but also point to the spirit of disobedience that is NOT the person, who is their slave master in and over their heads and hearts. The instant you HEAR of the Love of God in expressed in Jesus Christ, there will also come, resistance, internally.

Unbelievers, by their resisting nature, will be drawn away, continuing to be held captive. The voice of denial and condescension is instantly provoked within such.

When Paul the Apostle, was provided his Gospel directives, this was the intent:

Acts 26:18
to open their eyes and turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, so that they may receive forgiveness of sins and a place among those who are sanctified by faith in me.

The unbeliever does not know he is a pawn of wickedness. A notch in the belt of another who is not himself, the father of fleshly lusts, wicked desires, lies and coverups.

 

[reba]

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