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[FONT=Verdana,arial]Elijah674 wrote:

Re: A liar from the 'BEGINNING!'

I find nothing in these quotes that nullify the Lords Commandments! Deut.4
[13] And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform, even ten commandments; and he wrote them upon two tables of stone. And they are seen in Heaven, inside the Ark of His Covenant. Rev. 11
[19] And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.
(and judgment follows on!)
--Elijah
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Heb 4:3
For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
5 And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.
6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:
7 Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.
8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
(Georges quote’s)
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Heb 4:3
For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.

(there is nothing there George, these are believers of Christ)

4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
5 And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.
Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and [[they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief]]

(and here is He telling you of the few who Obeyed!)

6 Again, [[he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.]]
8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.

(is that not clear? The few did Obey because they loved their master. But I think that the word should be Joshua instead of Christ? But it is inspired of the many prophets anyway! 1 Cor. 14:32)

10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.

And George, if you can find any way that God did indeed did change His ETERNAL Covenant (Heb. 13:20) with that posting have a go at it! But see Dan. 7:25 first!

--Elijah



Yes Lord...
[14] And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world [[for a witness]] unto all nations; and then shall the end come. Matt. 24:14

And who will OBEY it? Acts 5:32
Just these few who follow Christ's as seen in Dan. 3:14-17...

[17] If it be so, our God whom we serve is able to deliver us from the burning fiery furnace, and he will deliver us out of thine hand, O king.
[18] But if not, be it known unto thee, O king, that we will not serve thy gods, nor worship the golden image which thou hast set up.

The interesting Truth seen here, is that KING Caesar played second fiddle to God almighty! Rom. 13:1-3 & Acts 4:17-21 finds these very few! And finally Acts 5 is seen...

[27] And when they had brought them, they set them before the council: and the high priest asked them,
[28] Saying, Did not we straitly command you that ye should not teach in this name? and, behold, ye have filled Jerusalem with your doctrine, and intend to bring this man's blood upon us.

[29] Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

[30] The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.
[31] Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.
[32] And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given [[to them that obey him]].

Caesar AGAINST Christ! Our loyal American citizens! Which way will it be???

Take a guess! WE HAVE NO KING BUT CAESAR WAS THEIR CRY!! Church/State combined!

--Elijah
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Turn on the TV, what does it tell you? About Matt. 24:21

[21] For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

--Elijah
 
Turn on the TV, what does it tell you? About Matt. 24:21

[21] For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

--Elijah

Me again:
Now read the rest of it from verse 21 on to see what comes next.
And no to the time/frame, with 666 approaching it will not take that long! (how long? we don't know yet! But this generation will not pass!)

--Elijah
 
Turn on the TV, what does it tell you? About Matt. 24:21

[21] For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

--Elijah

You believe the lies of TV? They are in it for the ratings. They focus on whatever they want to focus on that gives them the most ratings.
 
Turn on the TV, what does it tell you? About Matt. 24:21

[21] For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

--Elijah

Me again:
Now read the rest of it from verse 21 on to see what comes next.
And no to the time/frame, with 666 approaching it will not take that long! (how long? we don't know yet! But this generation will not pass!)

--Elijah


Please provide your proof that the mark is coming very very soon.
 
Turn on the TV, what does it tell you? About Matt. 24:21

[21] For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

--Elijah

Me again:
Now read the rest of it from verse 21 on to see what comes next.
And no to the time/frame, with 666 approaching it will not take that long! (how long? we don't know yet! But this generation will not pass!)

--Elijah


Please provide your proof that the mark is coming very very soon.

Matt. 24:34
[34] Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
(the mark is in between all things being fulfilles)

--Elijah
 
Turn on the TV, what does it tell you? About Matt. 24:21

[21] For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

--Elijah

Me again:
Now read the rest of it from verse 21 on to see what comes next.
And no to the time/frame, with 666 approaching it will not take that long! (how long? we don't know yet! But this generation will not pass!)

--Elijah


Please provide your proof that the mark is coming very very soon.

Matt. 24:34
[34] Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
(the mark is in between all things being fulfilles)

--Elijah


Not what i'm asking. You claim things are worse off nowadays. Please provide proof of that.
 
Please provide your proof that the mark is coming very very soon.

Matt. 24:34
[34] Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
(the mark is in between all things being fulfilles)

--Elijah


Not what i'm asking. You claim things are worse off nowadays. Please provide proof of that.

That is exactly what was said, you said... your guess was 'two generations away'.

--Elijah
 
Turn on the TV, what does it tell you?
Not much that is accurate. Nightly news on TV is awful, and it has been this way for a LONG time.
I was part of a major weather incident in the 1980s' and a witness to a plane crash in the 90's. BOTH times, even the LOCAL media got the stories wrong.

Are things really worse now than 30 years ago? Economically, yes, and this is largely world-wide. As far as man's inhumanity to man - I believe LITTLE has changed in thousands of years.
Crime? Crime rates are a very local thing. Crime in Griffin, Georgia has greatly increased in all facets since I moved there in 2001.

But up here in Forsyth County, GA - crime is almost non existent.

I admit, Elijah, that in the USA in the past 50 years, we have become a secular, vulgar, selfish lot - and our economy is much less "blessed" than it was 40 years ago.
So, there ARE indications to me that we are 'nearer the end times' than before. I just don't always agree with you on what the indicators are!
 
IDK, maybe instead of hoping for the end to come because the world's such as mess--it's always been a mess--we should fight as if we'll be here another hundred years but be prepared for His coming at any time. He did say no man knows the day or hour.


These are words of wisdom, spoken from a young person with the heart for and a Spirit of God. Listen to her.
 
Turn on the TV, what does it tell you?
Not much that is accurate. Nightly news on TV is awful, and it has been this way for a LONG time.
I was part of a major weather incident in the 1980s' and a witness to a plane crash in the 90's. BOTH times, even the LOCAL media got the stories wrong.

Are things really worse now than 30 years ago? Economically, yes, and this is largely world-wide. As far as man's inhumanity to man - I believe LITTLE has changed in thousands of years.
Crime? Crime rates are a very local thing. Crime in Griffin, Georgia has greatly increased in all facets since I moved there in 2001.

But up here in Forsyth County, GA - crime is almost non existent.

I admit, Elijah, that in the USA in the past 50 years, we have become a secular, vulgar, selfish lot - and our economy is much less "blessed" than it was 40 years ago.
So, there ARE indications to me that we are 'nearer the end times' than before. I just don't always agree with you on what the indicators are!

Well then young'in, you are getting there, huh? ;)

--Elijah
 
People in the 1930's and 1940's were absolutely sure it was the "final days" because of the great depression and a massive world war. More people died during that time than they do now. Things were far worse then. Everytime we have a "season" of bad times people always scream out "It's the end times!" and have been screaming that since ancient times.
 
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You are welcome.

But for the other dude, the thing is such today that it only takes minutes to see a world event. (such as the playoffs)
And the Zimmerman trial has a large audience??
And just think of a small handful staking their life for the 7th Day Sabbath in Obedience to the Commandments of God, with the Rev. 17:1-5 for sun worship? (in a world court)

And it is the End time of Loving our maker that is the test. (and the increased knowledge was not allowed of God for the watching of basketball games)

--Elijah
 
People in the 1930's and 1940's were absolutely sure it was the "final days" because of the great depression and a massive world war. More people died during that time than they do now. Things were far worse then. Everytime we have a "season" of bad times people always scream out "It's the end times!" and have been screaming that since ancient times.

This is true, and yet, never before has the technology been available for them to effect the no buying or selling in the marketplace if they wanted to. So there's that.

You don't need high-tech technology to create a system like that. They had the means, but not the ability to the complexity of politics, like today.
 
People in the 1930's and 1940's were absolutely sure it was the "final days" because of the great depression and a massive world war. More people died during that time than they do now. Things were far worse then. Everytime we have a "season" of bad times people always scream out "It's the end times!" and have been screaming that since ancient times.

This is true, and yet, never before has the technology been available for them to effect the no buying or selling in the marketplace if they wanted to. So there's that.

You don't need high-tech technology to create a system like that. They had the means, but not the ability to the complexity of politics, like today.


Wow! a glimmer of hope huh? But the Matt. 24:14 verse says it this way...
[14] And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and [[then shall the end come.]]

How long will it take with modern science?? [[Then shall the END COME!!]]

--Elijah
 
I can list about 20 things connecting the bible scriptures to events today. Such as the East Gate, the division of Israel U.N 181...... All that don't matter.

We are pushing the Word of God out for those that are in obedience to God. TV stations underwriting Pastors for the first time, giving them a spot, Downloads available to everyone, we get letters from Iraq. People getting saved at an amazing rate. I give no more than 40 years and that is stretching it.

Mike.
 
Lets try this one on for the size of the End??

Christ states in Matt. 23
[1] Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,
[2] Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
[3] All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.

These are NONE of the Rev. 17:5 ones! But the last of the 6th & 7th Virgin folds! These were ALL 7th Day professed Sabbath keepers. The Legalist church with a very few who LOVED their Lord enough to 'LEAVE' the Church with their doctrines that were Christ/less... and keep those same doctrines with Christ with them!! John 12:42-43 again stated... having Christ with His TRUTH!

John 12
[42] Nevertheless among the chief rulers also many believed on him; but because of the Pharisees they did not confess him, lest they should be put out of the synagogue:

So who was the church going through?? See Matt. 23:38!

And it is no different as seen in John's testimony as is DOCUMENTED in Rev. 12:17. satan has the Apostate church!
Rev. 3:9 has it said...
[9] Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

OK: The End time finds just two, one is kept & the other is spewed out because their love for their Maker was sick Lukewarm at best.
Matt. 6:24
[24] No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

True LOVE for Christ is the Last issue of life Eternal or death Eternal. And 666 will be the last testing.

--Elijah
 
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