-You be the judge for how near we are to the End-

[Elijah674]

Did that do the trick Pizza? --Elijah
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Re: -You be the judge for how near we are to the End-

Elijah,

You are a good guy and a good friend - but I've got to say, by refusing to explain your post you are coming across like you feel guilty or ashamed for what you posted.
If that is the case, maybe retracting the statement would help?

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There is ONE true doctrine. ('S) (Eph. 4:5) There are two seen in Christ's Words seen in Matt. 6:24 ''No man can serve TWO .."

That gets rid of all of Matt. 7:13 BROADWAY ones who stay yoked. (these are to leave all church's because of much error being taught. Rev. 18:4)

OK: See Isa. 5:1-4 for the truth seen there. From the start there was nothing that could be done that Christ had not done! (and from this vast bunch, only a REMNANT WOULD BE SAVED)

Enter Eccl. 1:9-10 + the second from the Holy Spirits INSPIRATION comes Eccl. 3:15! And even with this additional Pen we find Gen. 41:32 for how God works stated TWICE! (DOUBLED!)

So where does this leave me? SDA are lost as was old Israel! The only way to Obey Christ is having ones YOKED membership removed! (into Rev. 3:10 of Philadelphia) Yet be sure to catch Christ's WORDS that it is not the TEACHINGS that are wrong, but that they chose THE DOCTRINES OVER CHRIST!
See Isa. 5:3
[3] And now, O inhabitants of Jerusalem, and men of Judah, judge, I pray you, betwixt me and my vineyard.
(the vineyard is the Lords HOUSE ibid 7. And this was the choice! John 12:42-43)

OK: SDA are past/tense! (Shaking 2 Thess. 2:3) The few who are not are seen in (un/yoked) Rev. 3:10 are kept from the hour of temptation that is to test the world. That is the 666 testing for who it is that REALLY LOVES CHRIST.

And Rev. 12:17 tells of this repeat. And it is these ones who take the Eternal Gospel to the world by world satellite. (which is all set up)
And what speeds this all up is God allowing for satan to do his thing on earth. Matt. 24:21

Surely much has been left out? But the Eze. 9 ones can ALL be seen here. 'Sighing & Crying' for all the Abominations that are done in the Church.
This is a snapshot of where some are at. (My self included)

--Elijah

 

[Elijah674]

How close? I do not know, but the signs are mounting up! Matt. 24:21 on are where we are at. Even here is a July report...
'Upstate breaks record for rain' (Herald-Journal)

One area according to National Weather Service, had 14.45 inches of rain fall in July. The normal rainfall is 4.8 inches for the month, said Jeffrey Taylor, a meteorologist.

Here is another on crime! I would rather see what the word has on it, but everyone has to see that for their/self? ;) But these guy are educated huh?

Study: Every degree warmer, risk of violent crime, war inches up. (same paper.. to much to print, just stay tuned! And it has been hot, yet, Matt. 24:21 gets worse as this last day starts)

--Elijah

 

[Elijah674]

And Forum: It was Christ who said about John The Baptist that.. 'And 'if ye will receive it, 'this IS Elias, which was for to come. And this prophecy came from Mal. 4:5.. 'Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet [before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord].' And surely John The Baptist was not the exact person as Elias who is Elijah.
Yet, Christ stated that it was Elias if one could receive it!
So what is said is that it is a truth that John had the same Holy Spirit message that was seen in Mal. 4, + Elijah's Spirit filled Message of True Agape LOVE as seen in 1 Kings 18:16-38 for God's people! You go and study it, it is straight Talk, With NO foolishness allowed!!

But John was the one who was the Voice Crying in the wilderness! Matt. 1:1-3 'In those days John the Baptist, preaching in the wilderness of Judaea. And saying, Repent ye: for the [kingdom of heaven IS AT HAND.] (and it was surely so.. for Old Israel!) For this is he that was spoken of by the prophet Esaias saying, The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the [WAY OF THE LORD, MAKE HIS PATHS STRAIGHT.'

Remember that John was BE/HEADED for his plain telling of Truth! So we now come to our day! In Isaiah 59:1-2 we see the Same Holy Spirit FILLED TRUTH telling us..
'BEHOLD, the LORD'S hand [IS NOT SHORTENED, THAT IT CANNOT *SAVE,] neither [HIS EAR HEAVY THAT IT CANNOT HEAR]. But [YOUR INIQUITIES **HAVE SEPARATED BETWEEN **YOU** AND YOUR GOD], [**THAT HE WILL NOT HEAR]'

Hear what??? Your Prayers!!

Who does then answer the prayers of those who are living in [open] known sin then?? The ones who are of the broad way, and all of these in Rev. 17:1-5. Lets check & see what God tells us in 2 Thess. 2

[1] Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
[2] That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
[3] Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
[4] Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
[5] Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
[6] And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
[7] For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

[8] And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
[9] Even him, [[whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,]]
[10] And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
[11] And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
[12] That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

--Elijah

 

[Elijah674]

OK: Now my friend, what does one do with the God sent REPEATS? Eccl. 1:9-10 the FIRST time & Eccl. 3:15 for the second time... along with how God does indeed work in Gen. 41:32.

And Christ did not know of this truth?? Matt. 24:14
And it sure is a fact that Paul did huh! Col. 1:23 along with Rom. 10:18
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Eccl. 1:9-10
[9] The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.
[10] Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us.

Eccl. 3:15
[15] That which hath been is now; and that which is to be hath already been; and God requireth that which is past.

And:

Gen.42
[32] And for that the dream was doubled unto Pharaoh twice; it is because the thing is established by God, and God will shortly bring it to pass.

And Paul Inspired Words??

Rom. 10
[18] But I say, Have they not heard? Yes verily, their sound went into all the earth, and their words unto the ends of the world.

And his twice documentation?

Col. 1:23
[23] If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;

Now how about Christ?? He was ignorant to this TRUTH!

Matt. 24:14
[14] And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

OK: Ask yourself what would of happened if Paul preached opposite of Christ? All the prophets knew (1 Cor. 14:32)of the history to be repeated but Christ did not know? Sounds PROFOUND!

--Elijah

 

[Elijah674]

The history of everything repeats. If not God tells us of the very few times that it does not.

Again.... Eccl. 1:9-10 & the second time it is stated likewise in Eccl. 3:15.

Then we 'SEE' that God told everyone how He works in Gen. 41:32! Let me print that one...

[32] And for that the dream was doubled unto Pharaoh twice; it is because the thing is established by God, and God will shortly bring it to pass.

Now surely Christ KNEW this in Matt. 24:14??

Matt. 24
[14] And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

And Paul in Rom. 10:18 + Col. 1:23

--Elijah

Me again! So Matt. 24:21 on for the last time has all of satan's hell breaking loose! Egypt and the their riots!?? Syria with these kids lines up DEAD, (chemical war) & their President claiming that the opposition did it!? But regardless how satanic can one get? And North Korea & their lunatic leader! + Iran with the means of blowing Israel up. And the floods with records breaking all over the place, and these lunatics killing just for the 'fun' of it??? (sick!)

No, I think that it is about time for the Lord to come! Psalms 119
[126] It is time for thee, LORD, to work: for they have made void thy law.
[127] Therefore I love thy commandments above gold; yea, above fine gold.
[128] Therefore I esteem all thy precepts concerning all things to be right; and I hate every false way.

--Elijah

 

[Pizzaguy]

! Egypt and the their riots!?? Syria with these kids lines up DEAD, (chemical war) ... And North Korea & their lunatic leader! + Iran with the means of blowing Israel up.... and these lunatics killing just for the 'fun' of it??? (sick!)

No, I think that it is about time for the Lord to come!

It is bad out there, but if you are going to use human observations to judge when Christ will return, what about WWII?
That had to be hell on earth, well, it WAS. 60 million dead; 2.5% of the world's population.

Of course, there was the black death, 75 to 200 million dead. 30 to 60% of the population of Europe.
Around 25% of the WORLD'S population - dead. Pretty bad, huh?

You can't compare all of that to some flooding, can you?

It is not up to me to judge when Christ will return. And I must say, in order for me to think, "This is what Jesus was talking about" when He said, "you won't know the day, but you can discern the season...", things have got to get a LOT worse than what I see now.

Now, on the OTHER hand, I do think that is where we are headed.

 

[Sinthesis]

Honestly, why is this so hard to accept?

Jhn 16:33 - These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.
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[Elijah674]

'Some' Unity seen?

--Elijah

 

[reba]

Honestly, why is this so hard to accept?

Jhn 16:33 - These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.
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Amen our God is the only God all the earth is His

Exo_19:5 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:

 

[Elijah674]

Honestly, why is this so hard to accept?

Jhn 16:33 - These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.
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Amen our God is the only God all the earth is His

Exo_19:5 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:

That is the bottom/line of Faith! Heb. 11:1-2
The only question asked of God when he comes. Eccl. 12:13-14

--Elijah

 

[Elijah674]

! Egypt and the their riots!?? Syria with these kids lines up DEAD, (chemical war) ... And North Korea & their lunatic leader! + Iran with the means of blowing Israel up.... and these lunatics killing just for the 'fun' of it??? (sick!)

No, I think that it is about time for the Lord to come!

It is bad out there, but if you are going to use human observations to judge when Christ will return, what about WWII?
That had to be hell on earth, well, it WAS. 60 million dead; 2.5% of the world's population.

Of course, there was the black death, 75 to 200 million dead. 30 to 60% of the population of Europe.
Around 25% of the WORLD'S population - dead. Pretty bad, huh?

You can't compare all of that to some flooding, can you?

It is not up to me to judge when Christ will return. And I must say, in order for me to think, "This is what Jesus was talking about" when He said, "you won't know the day, but you can discern the season...", things have got to get a LOT worse than what I see now.

Now, on the OTHER hand, I do think that is where we are headed.

OK: Now read Matt. 24:21 on! (and about the worse fires in history out in Calif.)
You finally say...
'Now, on the OTHER hand, I do think that is where we are headed. '

You are learning!;) (a fast learner!)

--Elijah

PS: And it is not one disaster, but all of them following another!

 

[Elijah674]

! Egypt and the their riots!?? Syria with these kids lines up DEAD, (chemical war) ... And North Korea & their lunatic leader! + Iran with the means of blowing Israel up.... and these lunatics killing just for the 'fun' of it??? (sick!)

No, I think that it is about time for the Lord to come!

It is bad out there, but if you are going to use human observations to judge when Christ will return, what about WWII?
That had to be hell on earth, well, it WAS. 60 million dead; 2.5% of the world's population.

Of course, there was the black death, 75 to 200 million dead. 30 to 60% of the population of Europe.
Around 25% of the WORLD'S population - dead. Pretty bad, huh?

You can't compare all of that to some flooding, can you?

It is not up to me to judge when Christ will return. And I must say, in order for me to think, "This is what Jesus was talking about" when He said, "you won't know the day, but you can discern the season...", things have got to get a LOT worse than what I see now.

Now, on the OTHER hand, I do think that is where we are headed.

OK: Now read Matt. 24:21 on! (and about the worse fires in history out in Calif.)
You finally say...
'Now, on the OTHER hand, I do think that is where we are headed. '

You are learning!;) (a fast learner!)

--Elijah

PS: And it is not one disaster, but all of them following another!

Next? Based on Matt. 24:21 and after...
You name it! Record settings floods, with RECORD settings calamities all over the place! (allowed of God!) And now this Syria dealings! How bad will it be? See Isa. 5:4-5!

--Elijah

 

[Rev33]

Ummm... as I read Matt 24, it says things like Wars, Famines, pestilences are NOT signs of the end, indeed Jesus specifically states that when those things happen "THE END IS NOT YET" and History bears this out... Wars, famines and pestilences have been happening every day since Jesus spoke those words. (Nothing in there about Rainfall either so I have no idea how anyone could cite rainfall amounts as a "sign" of anything....)

He did say that when certain signs were seen, the end would be "NEAR",( Matt 24:33) but everybody I talk to seems to believe when God says something is "Near", He actually means thousands of years away, so Jesus (Being God) saying something would be "Near" really has no discernible meaning in Human time.....

 

[Elijah674]

Ummm... as I read Matt 24, it says things like Wars, Famines, pestilences are NOT signs of the end, indeed Jesus specifically states that when those things happen "THE END IS NOT YET" and History bears this out... Wars, famines and pestilences have been happening every day since Jesus spoke those words. (Nothing in there about Rainfall either so I have no idea how anyone could cite rainfall amounts as a "sign" of anything....)

He did say that when certain signs were seen, the end would be "NEAR",( Matt 24:33) but everybody I talk to seems to believe when God says something is "Near", He actually means thousands of years away, so Jesus (Being God) saying something would be "Near" really has no discernible meaning in Human time.....

You did not read well!;) It says... 'and after!' But like the rest of 'us', whatever?

--Elijah

 

[Rev33]

You did not read well! It says... 'and after!' But like the rest of 'us', whatever?

Oh I read quite well thank you very much... it seems you don't however if you are citing rainfall amounts as a "Sign" of anything (other than getting wet)

 

[Elijah674]

You did not read well! It says... 'and after!' But like the rest of 'us', whatever?

Oh I read quite well thank you very much... it seems you don't however if you are citing rainfall amounts as a "Sign" of anything (other than getting wet)

Well see if this older post helps?

Eccl. 1

[9] The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; [[[[SAY’S INSPIRATION HERE!]]]] and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is [[no new thing under the sun]].

(OK: Test your faith that you profess to have! Sure Lord, the Rev. 17:1-5 ones believe you in Gen. 3:3, but just ‘teach’ that you ‘fudged’ some! (LIED!) and that satan can be believed by us in verse 4. SICK!)

[10] Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? [[it hath been already of old time, which was before us.]]

+ Eccl. 3 (AGAIN INSPIRATION DOCUMENTS ‘TWICE + !!)

[14] I know that, whatsoever God doeth, (or sayeth!) it shall be for ever: [nothing can be put to it, nor any thing taken from it: and God doeth it], that men should fear before him.

(even note Rev. last two verses of WARNING!)

[15] That which hath been is now; and that which is to be hath already been; and God requireth that which is past.

And because there are so very few times that there is not a repeat, God documents that so as we can understand that there are these few times that do occur, such as the rainbow in the sky with no more world flood + Hosea 4:6, with sin never to arise the ‘second time’!

And 'if' one really BELIEVED God above, they could toss out all kinds of their false doctrines.
So yes, we see repeats all through the Bible, even down to the spiritual re/crucifixion of Christ! Heb. 6:6.

And even in Gen. 41 One finds exactly the how & when God teaches Truth. It matter not the subject for God does not change & gives His Eternal Word! Mal. 3:6 + Christ’s N.T. documentation of Heb. 13:8-9 Truth + Warning!

[32] And for that the dream was doubled unto Pharaoh twice; [[[it is because the thing is established by God, and God will shortly bring it to pass]]].

--Elijah

 

[PrivateTimm]

Read The Late Great Planet Earth in 1973 and forty years later I'm still waitin'.

A great many people have had egg on the face over the centuries predicting the end.

 

[Elijah674]

Read The Late Great Planet Earth in 1973 and forty years later I'm still waitin'.

A great many people have had egg on the face over the centuries predicting the end.

As I see in 1 Thess. 5:4-5 it closing up fast! No day or hour set by me. Yet, Matt. 24:21 'on' is fast moving toward the END!

--Elijah

 

[JLB]

Honestly, why is this so hard to accept?

Jhn 16:33 - These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.
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Amen our God is the only God all the earth is His

Exo_19:5 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:

16 The heaven, even the heavens, are the LORD'S: but the earth hath he given to the children of men. Psalm 115:16



JLB

 

[Elijah674]

Deut. 4:12-13
[12] And the LORD spake unto you out of the midst of the fire: ye heard the voice of the words, but saw no similitude; only ye heard a voice.
[13] And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform, even ten commandments; and he wrote them upon two tables of stone.

Yet, what does one hear today?? 'It was all finished at the cross'.

--Elijah