YOU DON'T WANT GOD, BUT HE WANTS YOU?

[GODHASSPOKENTOME]

I was quite happy without -GOD- in my life but then HE showed me a new way to help people that needed help. I figured that I would explain to people this new way of helping the needy and I would go back to my uneventful life, problem solved. Nobody and I mean nobody was interested in helping or understanding how to really, really help people with mental illness or addictions or diseases or sickness or mental disorders or suicides or death etc.. Now after years and thousands of dollars of effort their is nowhere to turn, so why did GOD waste my time if HE already knew that nobody was interested in really helping others that truly needed help??? PS, please don't quote me a Bible verse, explain it to me in everyday english...

 

[Davies]

I was quite happy without -GOD- in my life but then HE showed me a new way to help people that needed help.

Hi GODHASSPOKENTOME,

I thought it was strange that you'd have anything to do with God because He showed you a new way to help people. Unless I read into it, that you understand your need for salvation, and then understood the need others have. When you say nobody was interested in helping those with mental illness, I assume that means only the people you knew. Because you helped out those with all you could do, why would you say that God was wasting your time? Are you basing your service to God on your results rather than being obedient? It sounds like you have been doing what you can, but I don't think you should say God was wasting your time because you observed nobody cares. I do sympathize, though, because we have to learn to trust God despite what our circumstances tell us about God, and I understand that's not easy for us.

- Davies

 

[handy]

I was quite happy without -GOD- in my life but then HE showed me a new way to help people that needed help. I figured that I would explain to people this new way of helping the needy and I would go back to my uneventful life, problem solved. Nobody and I mean nobody was interested in helping or understanding how to really, really help people with mental illness or addictions or diseases or sickness or mental disorders or suicides or death etc.. Now after years and thousands of dollars of effort their is nowhere to turn, so why did GOD waste my time if HE already knew that nobody was interested in really helping others that truly needed help??? PS, please don't quote me a Bible verse, explain it to me in everyday english...

You say you were happy without Him...and now you want to blame Him for your problems...I don't think God is who you think He is...and I'm pretty sure it wasn't Him "speaking" to you. As a matter of fact...if you've failed, then I know it wasn't from Him.

One way we can know for certain if someone is a false prophet is the fact that their prophesies don't come true. One way we can test the spirits is if they lie to us. If you were convinced that you learned some new "truth" about helping the mentally ill...and that turned out to be a lie...then the spirit who spoke to you wasn't the Holy Spirit...no matter how much you might have been convinced otherwise.

I won't quote you a Bible verse...but I do recommend that you perhaps start truly studying the Bible for yourself so that you can gain some discernment as to how to test the spirits when you start hearing voices that are seemingly from God.

 

[stovebolts]

Perhaps it's not about telling people, but rather showing people. The visible results will bear witness to God. The show's not over yet!

 

[for_his_glory]

First of all welcome to the forums and yes hitch, that was uncalled for.

It seems to me you might have a heart of compassion for the less fortunate feeling like God called you to this, but also seems like you were trying to motivate others into doing something that you should have initiated in the first place as a leader for those to follow.

Was this only a temporary moment on your part to think if I do something good for others, as you stated you are a good person and you probably are, then I will be in good with God? If so, it doesn't work that way. God doesn't want only the good parts of you, he wants all of you to transform you in His mercy and grace. You said you did not want any scripture and this leads me to believe that you do not have a personal relationship with Christ, but are only trying to buy your way into His grace by works and it's not be works, but of faith that we are saved.

I think you need to have a little talk with Jesus and get to know him and what true purpose he has for you in this life as no one who is in Christ has an uneventful life on this earth and as far as you thinking God wasted your precious time, sorry as it's us who have wasted away His precious time. I pray Gods Spirit will speak to your heart if you are willing to truly wanting to hear him speak to you.

 

[GODHASSPOKENTOME]

for_his_glory and other comments, I wanted too see what kind of responses to my post. Now to try and explain how God Has Spoken To Me when I was not looking for God or the Bible or Religion etc.. I worked at a mental health rehabilitation facility (FH) in northern new jersey for years and we discovered that we might be able to cure anybody with mental illness, mental disorders, diseases, addictions etc.. Nobody has ever been able to do this in the history of the world except -GOD- so this is why I figured that for whatever reason -HE- showed me how to heal all the sickness in the world. Now I am stuck with mankind who does not understand or give a damn and -GOD- who showed me the way to heal mankind and no way to prove it. PS, thank you for your time...

 

[handy]

for_his_glory and other comments, I wanted too see what kind of responses to my post. Now to try and explain how God Has Spoken To Me when I was not looking for God or the Bible or Religion etc.. I worked at a mental health rehabilitation facility (FH) in northern new jersey for years and we discovered that we might be able to cure anybody with mental illness, mental disorders, diseases, addictions etc.. Nobody has ever been able to do this in the history of the world except -GOD- so this is why I figured that for whatever reason -HE- showed me how to heal all the sickness in the world. Now I am stuck with mankind who does not understand or give a damn and -GOD- who showed me the way to heal mankind and no way to prove it. PS, thank you for your time...

OK...my good friend is bi-polar and I have a niece whom I love dearly with severe mental illness...show me what God showed you...I'd love to help both and see them healed...especially my niece who has two children she currently cannot even see, much less care for.

 

[jasoncran]

i have edited a post. i will give an infraction to those that post in that matter. if you cant be nice then dont post.

now then.. my wife has bp and i understand this frustration.she doesnt like being told she is a wacko and feels that some look at her as such.

i wont pretend to even think that i have the words to say. all i can offer is prayers.

god only you can heal or give this person peace. i ask that you heal or give out your peace. in your name amen.

 

[GODHASSPOKENTOME]

I will gladly help you and your relatives but first you have to have an open mind to a idea that nobody has ever done or even thought of. We the support staff created an -Atmosphere of Continuous Kindness- at this facility and we saw amazing results and amazing potential. If you can understand full time continuous kindness means to do as many small acts of kindness continuously day after day, month after month, for a continuous long period of time. -You- will see amazing results and the potential to cure anybody of anything and all I need to prove these possabilities is cooperation and time. PS, if you want my documented facts and results, then give me your mailing address and I will sent them to you free of charge...

 

[handy]

I will gladly help you and your relatives but first you have to have an open mind to a idea that nobody has ever done or even thought of. We the support staff created an -Atmosphere of Continuous Kindness- at this facility and we saw amazing results and amazing potential. If you can understand full time continuous kindness means to do as many small acts of kindness continuously day after day, month after month, for a continuous long period of time. -You- will see amazing results and the potential to cure anybody of anything and all I need to prove these possabilities is cooperation and time. PS, if you want my documented facts and results, then give me your mailing address and I will sent them to you free of charge...

Sounds promising...unfortunately, I'm not in a position to do this with my niece. It sounds as if the ill must be in a facility or at least live with the person doing the acts of kindness.

 

[GODHASSPOKENTOME]

-handy- you are correct sort of, with the people and resources I could possibly tailor a program to help people that need help in a individual setting that would be labor intensive but it woud cost nothing but love and being kind...

 

[handy]

I am curious as to your OP...you sound as though you've failed and were blaming God, and yet you say you have success with your program. Is the facility closing?
Why would it be closing if the success rate is so high?

Sorry for the questions, I'm just trying to get a feel for the obvious bitterness of your OP.

 

[for_his_glory]

I am curious as to your OP...you sound as though you've failed and were blaming God, and yet you say you have success with your program. Is the facility closing?
Why would it be closing if the success rate is so high?

Sorry for the questions, I'm just trying to get a feel for the obvious bitterness of your OP.

Thank you handy as I thought the same with the attitude of the OP that anger was the issue and that's why I posted what I wrote. I do apologize GODHASSPOKENTOME for if you would have stated what that program was at first it wouldn't have caused my confusion. It does sound like a great program as I used it once my self with a client I took care of in a group home with baby step results, but yet results were shown to be positive, but I was shut down on the idea by those of my superiors as they felt many would never change as that's just the way they are.

 

[GODHASSPOKENTOME]

-for_his_glory and handy etc.- I am sorry if I have not been clear with my posts, I have failed in the past in contacting hundreds of professionals and facilities and people associated with mental illness etc.. After years of effort and thousands of dollars of my own money I figured that I would use the internet and contact people that would understand kindness and love etc. and be able to get true Christians to help me. I have used my time and went on various Christian forums etc. and tried to explain my ideas or programs to people that should understand what God and I was trying to do to help human beings that needed help, but to no advail.
-You- for_his_glory and handy- have given me hope that maybe there is a understanding of what I am trying to do, just maybe, we can expand ideas that will make this program a viable solution to mankinds proplems. PS, I know that this sounds impossible or grandiose etc. with Gods help anything is possible...

 

[GODHASSPOKENTOME]

To answer your questions about the mental health rehabilitation facility (FH) in northern New Jersey that I worked in for almost four years. We the support staff had instituted many programs that helped the clients with their everyday living etc., over half the professional staff were only interested in their bureaucratic paperwork etc.. The other half of professional staff were terrified of the clients, so we the support staff filled a void that existed. Years of helping the clients produced amazing results with many, many, small acts of continuous kindness and somebody they could -Trust-. In the beginning of my employment I was hired to stop the everyday fights and confrontations and clients acting out and clients going into psychosis etc.. The last two years of my employment almost all fights and confrontations etc. stopped completely and all kinds of -Suicides- (Violent & Passive) stopped completely. Levels of medications were lower as time went on and cancer and diabetes etc. were going into remission more often etc.. I kept detailed records of all of the above and more, eight out of ten of support staff were laid off or fired for vague reasons and all the kindness programs were stopped. The program that really helped the clients was -Atmosphere of Continuous Kindness- was dismantled and the -Suicides- are now out of control again. The mental health professionals and bureaucrats could care less about the -Suicides- etc. just look at the Military Veterans and all the suicides they have to endure. PS, I have contacted the veterans administration and politicians etc. to no advail...

 

[Tina]

To answer your questions about the mental health rehabilitation facility (FH) in northern New Jersey that I worked in for almost four years. We the support staff had instituted many programs that helped the clients with their everyday living etc., over half the professional staff were only interested in their bureaucratic paperwork etc.. The other half of professional staff were terrified of the clients, so we the support staff filled a void that existed. Years of helping the clients produced amazing results with many, many, small acts of continuous kindness and somebody they could -Trust-. In the beginning of my employment I was hired to stop the everyday fights and confrontations and clients acting out and clients going into psychosis etc.. The last two years of my employment almost all fights and confrontations etc. stopped completely and all kinds of -Suicides- (Violent & Passive) stopped completely. Levels of medications were lower as time went on and cancer and diabetes etc. were going into remission more often etc.. I kept detailed records of all of the above and more, eight out of ten of support staff were laid off or fired for vague reasons and all the kindness programs were stopped. The program that really helped the clients was -Atmosphere of Continuous Kindness- was dismantled and the -Suicides- are now out of control again. The mental health professionals and bureaucrats could care less about the -Suicides- etc. just look at the Military Veterans and all the suicides they have to endure. PS, I have contacted the veterans administration and politicians etc. to no advail...

I would say what you have contributed to this program is awesome, simply great !

Do not think all your time, effort and financial sacrifices have gone unnoticed by God even if the institution fails to recognize it. I know it sucks when you put your heart and soul into your job only to have to go away unappreciated and worst, things take a turn for the worst.

But that's life sometimes, and when it's beyond your control, you'll just have to surrender the situation to God and pray that He will do something. People in the secular world look at suicides and mental illnesses as rather hopeless cases that don't deserve much attention. But as Christians, we know there is always Hope in Christ which goes hand in hand with kindness and compassion just as Christ lavished on the needy. God is Love and when we show sincere and genuine Love of God towards the needy, we are actually showing them God and that's why the Spirit of God moves among them to heal and restore their health. But these are spiritual things heathens and secular people will not understand and appreciate.

 

[handy]

Keep in mind as well that God very well may have already accomplished His purposes in what you've done so far. It may very well be that there was one specific person that needed the help you gave. Perhaps there is someone alive today that would be dead if not for you, someone whom God has specific plans for. Or, someone might see the effects of your program and make changes elsewhere. Sometime we need to see ourselves as in a relay race...carrying a baton and passing it onward to someone else...but our time of carrying that baton is vital to the over all success.

It's really hard to say when God has accomplished His purposes...we are often given just a small part of the picture.

When I read your first post, I honestly thought that your vision had failed and failed visions are not from God. Given the more details, I don't get that impression at all. It just could be that you're carrying farther than God intends...or perhaps your success will come later.

But, from what I read, God has already used you in a mighty way.

 

[GODHASSPOKENTOME]

-handy- you have given me food for thought, and I thank you...