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Your favorite scientist.

The smiley ';)' in post #20 should tell you I was kidding! lol
 
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tim-from-pa said:
My favorite scientist is also a renowned theologian I respect: Sir Isaac Newton (1642-1727). When Newton talks theology, I listen.
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I appreciate the joke 'tim-from-pa'.:clap

For those who don't know, Newton was a non trinitarian, probably an Arian. (Remember Arius, the Biscop favored by Constantine's sister? His views were rejected when the Bible was being compiled). In simple terms he was a heretic who could have been burned for his beliefs.

There is an interesting 'conversation' between him and Liebniz on Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Newton's_religious_views

and more on the subject here:http://www.isaac-newton.org/pdf/Snobelen Isaac Newton heretic BJHS 1999.pdf

Yes, he is my favorite scientist too.
 
Aardverk said:
I appreciate the joke 'tim-from-pa'.:clap

For those who don't know, Newton was a non trinitarian, probably an Arian. (Remember Arius, the Biscop favored by Constantine's sister? His views were rejected when the Bible was being compiled). In simple terms he was a heretic who could have been burned for his beliefs.

There is an interesting 'conversation' between him and Liebniz on Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Newton's_religious_views

and more on the subject here:http://www.isaac-newton.org/pdf/Snobelen Isaac Newton heretic BJHS 1999.pdf

Yes, he is my favorite scientist too.
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No joke Aardjerk. I think it bothers some non-Christian people and/or atheists that such as renowned scientist like Newton actually believed in God--- a fact that these so-called open-minded scientists today rather cover up (something like an oppressive regime and media filtering what one can hear?)

Many scientists in the past believed in God in various degrees. As a matter of fact, a question was posed earlier why we don't have the minds today as back then. Ha. I think we stumbled onto another possibility here as to why, and not only food diet --- but a diet of another sort.

As for trinitarian doctrine, that's irrelevant.
 
tim-from-pa said:
As for trinitarian doctrine, that's irrelevant.
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I couldn't agree more tim-from-pa but non-trinitarians are still ostracized by many churches and by many people. We are not considered Christians by (probably) the majority of Christians. That is why Newton kept quiet about it.

I stopped calling myself a Christian when I became a non-trinitarian. I can no longer honestly recite the Nicene Creed, so by that definition, I am not a Christian, I am a heretic. Unfortunately, people on this forum and elsewhere, just assume I am an atheist or a Muslim simply because I am labelled as non-Christian.

The reasons for my beliefs happen to be exactly the same as the reasons for Newton's beliefs.
 
As I watch the thread become derailed....

It is hard to say "my favorite", as there are so many towering figures. Newton and good old "Al" come to mind quick. Hans Bethe was always fascinating to listen to (one of the atomic scientists that worked on the bomb) and Leo Szilard (who worked on the bomb, cured himself of cancer, and led a wonderfully interesting life).... but my favoirte is Rene Descartes. He brought us the "x - y" stuff that brought Algebraic equations, geometry, and the sciences together.


From the Wiki on him:

the Cartesian coordinate system — allowing algebraic equations to be expressed as geometric shapes in a two-dimensional coordinate system — was named after him. He is credited as the father of analytical geometry, the bridge between algebra and geometry, crucial to the discovery of infinitesimal calculus and analysis. Descartes was also one of the key figures in the Scientific Revolution.
 
but my favoirte is Rene Descartes. He brought us the "x - y" stuff that brought Algebraic equations, geometry, and the sciences together.
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I like Descartes too:). My Philosophy teacher always mentioned about Descartes.
 
The name seems to have a venomous something in it. Some of the things he said is true while most others are false - assumptions.
 
Aardverk said:
I couldn't agree more tim-from-pa but non-trinitarians are still ostracized by many churches and by many people. We are not considered Christians by (probably) the majority of Christians. That is why Newton kept quiet about it.

I stopped calling myself a Christian when I became a non-trinitarian. I can no longer honestly recite the Nicene Creed, so by that definition, I am not a Christian, I am a heretic. Unfortunately, people on this forum and elsewhere, just assume I am an atheist or a Muslim simply because I am labelled as non-Christian.

The reasons for my beliefs happen to be exactly the same as the reasons for Newton's beliefs.
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Newton by today's standards was also what we would call a conspiracy theorist, or I should say, at least held some of their beliefs. He was big into the prophetic chronograph of the Great Pyramid and the search for the exact measure of the "sacred cubit" --- all kinds of fun esoterica and supernatural stuff. The next time someone doubts that a person as myself is not truly mathematical or scientific-minded because of my so-called strange, irrational and non-Christian beliefs (and strange by even non-Christian standards) I always point to Isaac Newton. Oh, how people love to idolise Newton as a great mathematician and scientist until they see what he believed in. Newton and I would have made great room-mates.
 
:lol
She needs some earmuffs
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If I know I am sharing a room with someone (like I have in the past on my Dragon runs) I pack earplugs. I even wear them at home when it rains hard!!!

They are very effective - but many people whine about comfort.

But the fact is, you WILL hear NOTHING.
 
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