Bible Study Salvation through sanctification

[iLOVE]

Please show me the scripture that says “all commandments and laws are fulfilled by the believer by being in Christ”.


Here is how a believer who is “in Christ”, remains “in Christ.”


Now he who keeps His commandments abides in Him, and He in him. And by this we know that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us. 1 John 3:24



JLB

The Believer who attempts to do this in their own ability is eating from the "tree of the knowledge of good and evil"who is a transgressor of the "law" (Gal. 2:18); they have fallen from grace! Christ has become of no benefit to them! Therefore, the works of the flesh will manifest (the sin nature). This is called Spiritual Adultery (lukewarm)! (Romans 7:1-4)

If "Righteousness" came come by the law (what I do), Christ in dead in vain. Gal. 2:20-21

Jesus said that must people are going to hell. Matthew 7:14

 

[iLOVE]

Could you, in your own words, please explain what sanctification is?

Are there verse in the bible that speak about sanctifying peace?

My Pastor words become my words, because we are one with Christ.

 

[GodsGrace]

My Pastor words become my words, because we are one with Christ.

When you can't repeat something in your own words, it means you don't understand it.

My questions were very simple:
What is sanctification? In your own words.
and
Where in the N.T. is sanctifying peace spoken of?

Thanks.

 

[JLB]

8 For by Grace (the Goodness of God) are you Saved through Faith (Faith in Christ, with the Cross ever as its Object); and that not of yourselves (none of this is of us, but all is of Him): it is the Gift of God (anytime the word “Gift” is used, God is speaking of His Son and His Substitutionary Work on the Cross, which makes all of this possible):

Sorry, but this is man made commentary (man’s opinion) that adds to God’s word.


Grace is the Holy Spirit; The Spirit of Grace.


Anyone who has rejected Moses’ law dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. Of how much worse punishment, do you suppose, will he be thought worthy who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, counted the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing, and insulted the Spirit of grace? Hebrews 10:28-29



Grace teaches us....


For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men, teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly in the present age,
Titus 2:11-12



Grace is God’s power and ability given to us as a gift, and is unmerited, in which we are empowered to do what we could not do without it, which is walk according to the Spirit.


Grace enables us to practice righteousness.

Grace empowers us to obey the Lord Jesus Christ.



Little children, let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous.
1 John 3:7




JLB

 

[JLB]

When you can't repeat something in your own words, it means you don't understand it.

My questions were very simple:
What is sanctification? In your own words.
and
Where in the N.T. is sanctifying peace spoken of?

Thanks.

So true.

 

[JLB]

The Believer who attempts to do this in their own ability is eating from the "tree of the knowledge of good and evil"who is a transgressor of the "law" (Gal. 2:18);

As I plainly said, no one can do anything in their own ability.


That’s why God gave us the Holy Spirit.


Again, my question to you is...


Please show me the scripture that says “all commandments and laws are fulfilled by the believer by being in Christ”.



Are you trying to teach us, that Christians can break His commandments, yet still somehow keep them?


That would make no sense.




JLB

 

[JLB]

24 And he who keeps His Commandments dwells in Him, and He in him.

This scripture plainly says those who keep His commandments abide in Him.


Please stop adding your own opinion to God’s word.




JLB

 

[JLB]

If "Righteousness" came come by what I do, Christ in dead in vain. Gal. 2:20-21

Righteousness is only obtained by the obedience of faith.


But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith: Romans 16:26


Obedience is how faith is activated to come alive and produce the intended divine result.



Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? James 2:21




JLB

 

[iLOVE]

Grace is the Holy Spirit; The Spirit of Grace.

Jesus Christ is Grace, not the Holy Spirit. John 16:14

 

[iLOVE]

Righteousness is only obtained by the obedience of faith.

This is 100% false doctrine.

 

[JLB]

Jesus Christ is Grace, not the Holy Spirit. John 16:14

This scripture Certainly does not say that Jesus is grace.


He will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you. John 16:14


He is the way, the truth and the life.



JLB

 

[JLB]

This is 100% false doctrine.

Only those who obey Jesus Christ will receive eternal life.

And having been perfected, He became the author of eternal salvation to all who obey Him, Hebrews 5:9

again


Little children, let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous. 1 John 3:7


again



But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith: Romans 16:26



JLB

 

[iLOVE]

Please show me the scripture that says “all commandments and laws are fulfilled by the believer by being in Christ”.

“3 Know you not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ (plainly says that this Baptism is into Christ and not water [I Cor. 1:17; 12:13; Gal. 3:27; Eph. 4:5; Col. 2:11-13]) were baptized into His Death? (When Christ died on the Cross, in the Mind of God, we died with Him; in other words, He became our Substitute, and our identification with Him in His Death gives us all the benefits for which He died; the idea is that He did it all for us!)

4 Therefore we are buried with Him by baptism into death (not only did we die with Him, but we were buried with Him as well, which means that all the sin and transgression of the past were buried; when they put Him in the Tomb, they put all of our sins into that Tomb as well): that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the Glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life (we died with Him, we were buried with Him, and His Resurrection was our Resurrection to a “Newness of Life”).

5 For if we have been planted together (with Christ) in the likeness of His Death (Paul proclaims the Cross as the instrument through which all Blessings come; consequently, the Cross must ever be the Object of our Faith, which gives the Holy Spirit latitude to work within our lives), we shall be also in the likeness of His Resurrection (we can have the “likeness of His Resurrection,” i.e., “live this Resurrection Life,” only as long as we understand the “likeness of His Death,” which refers to the Cross as the Means by which all of this is done):”


Gal. 2:20-21
“20 I am Crucified with Christ (as the Foundation of all Victory; Paul, here, takes us back to Rom. 6:3-5): nevertheless I live (have new life); yet not I (not by my own strength and ability), but Christ lives in me (by virtue of me dying with Him on the Cross, and being raised with Him in Newness of Life): and the life which I now live in the flesh (my daily walk before God) I live by the Faith of the Son of God (the Cross is ever the Object of my Faith), Who loved me, and gave Himself for me (which is the only way that I could be Saved).

21 I do not frustrate the Grace of God (if we make anything other than the Cross of Christ the Object of our Faith, we frustrate the Grace of God, which means we stop its action, and the Holy Spirit will no longer help us): for if Righteousness come by the Law (any type of Law), then Christ is dead in vain. (If I can successfully live for the Lord by any means other than Faith in Christ and the Cross, then the Death of Christ was a waste.)”

JSM

 

[JLB]

This is 100% false doctrine.

Everything you have promoted here has been false doctrine.

You openly add words to scriptures to twist them into what you decide they mean.

You can’t even explain anything you are saying because it’s all Jimmy Swaggart doctrine.


Please wake up.



JLB

 

[JLB]

“3 Know you not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ (plainly says that this Baptism is into Christ and not water [I Cor. 1:17; 12:13; Gal. 3:27; Eph. 4:5; Col. 2:11-13]) were baptized into His Death? (When Christ died on the Cross, in the Mind of God, we died with Him; in other words, He became our Substitute, and our identification with Him in His Death gives us all the benefits for which He died; the idea is that He did it all for us!)

4 Therefore we are buried with Him by baptism into death (not only did we die with Him, but we were buried with Him as well, which means that all the sin and transgression of the past were buried; when they put Him in the Tomb, they put all of our sins into that Tomb as well): that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the Glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life (we died with Him, we were buried with Him, and His Resurrection was our Resurrection to a “Newness of Life”).

5 For if we have been planted together (with Christ) in the likeness of His Death (Paul proclaims the Cross as the instrument through which all Blessings come; consequently, the Cross must ever be the Object of our Faith, which gives the Holy Spirit latitude to work within our lives), we shall be also in the likeness of His Resurrection (we can have the “likeness of His Resurrection,” i.e., “live this Resurrection Life,” only as long as we understand the “likeness of His Death,” which refers to the Cross as the Means by which all of this is done):”


Gal. 2:20-21
“20 I am Crucified with Christ (as the Foundation of all Victory; Paul, here, takes us back to Rom. 6:3-5): nevertheless I live (have new life); yet not I (not by my own strength and ability), but Christ lives in me (by virtue of me dying with Him on the Cross, and being raised with Him in Newness of Life): and the life which I now live in the flesh (my daily walk before God) I live by the Faith of the Son of God (the Cross is ever the Object of my Faith), Who loved me, and gave Himself for me (which is the only way that I could be Saved).

21 I do not frustrate the Grace of God (if we make anything other than the Cross of Christ the Object of our Faith, we frustrate the Grace of God, which means we stop its action, and the Holy Spirit will no longer help us): for if Righteousness come by the Law (any type of Law), then Christ is dead in vain. (If I can successfully live for the Lord by any means other than Faith in Christ and the Cross, then the Death of Christ was a waste.)”

JSM

Not one single thing here about all the commandments and laws are kept for us because we are in Christ.


Please stop adding your opinion to the scriptures.

Please quote just the scripture.

No born again Christian is righteous who lives in sin.


If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 1 John 1:9


Christians must be cleansed of unrighteousness through confessing their sin.


Jesus doesn’t keep the commandments for us.


JLB

 

[iLOVE]

Not one single thing here about all the commandments and laws are kept for us because we are in Christ.

…because as He is, so are we in this world (1 John 4:17).

 

[iLOVE]

No born again Christian is righteous who lives in sin.


If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 1 John 1:9


Christians must be cleansed of unrighteousness through confessing their sin.


Jesus doesn’t keep the commandments for us.

If you believe this, stop bypassing the Cross! Judgement will come on the Sacrifice or the person (remember Cain). Paul said we preach Christ Crucified, not Christ and obedience. Why would Paul say such a thing! Because that is the only way!!!!!!!

Next, the Holy Spirit keeps all commands and laws for the Believer. Please understand that it is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me (I have been crucified with Christ-(Rom. 6:3-5). Gal. 2:20

If you keep just one law, you better be able to keep them all! Which is impossible.

Jesus said If any man will come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow Me (Luke 9:23). In other words receive my daily benefits. Psalms 103:2

 

[JLB]

…because as He is, so are we in this world (1 John 4:17).

Still nothing about Jesus keeping the commandments for us because we are in Him.

Why would we have to confess our sin and be cleansed of unrighteousness if He keeps the commandments for us?



No born again Christian is righteous who lives in sin.


If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 1 John 1:9


JLB

 

[JLB]

If you believe this, stop bypassing the Cross!

I came to the cross years ago and repented.

I now walk according to the Spirit, because His Spirit within me, empowers me to practice righteousness rather than practicing the works of the flesh.


JLB

 

[iLOVE]

Still nothing about Jesus keeping the commandments for us because we are in Him.

Why do YOU think YOU can keep the over six hundred plus laws through YOUR obedience? Why do you think you can attain Righteousness through obedience (THE LAW)?

Why would we have to confess our sin and be cleansed of unrighteousness if He keeps the commandments for us?

The Believer commits acts of sin. We do not practice sin. Yes, we confess our sins to stay in fellowship with our Father. Also, ALL sin was remitted, paid for, and put away on the basis of the satisfaction offered for the demands of God's Holy Law, which sinners broke, when the Lord Jesus died on the Cross.