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So you're saying the man of lawlessness is not the anti-christ...but who surely is himself an anti-christ?No, this suggests that YOU ASSUME that the man of lawlessness and the antichrist are the same person.
He shows the system of anti-christ, and those who walk in it, is present at the time of his writings.I have definitively shown that the supposed antichrist was present at the time of John's writing...
Which includes the man of lawlessness, but who is not to be called the anti-christ, right?...and also that this antichrist is not one person but all those who deny the Father and the Son.
We know who the many anti-christs are, John tells us. But who is this singular anti-christ that they had been told is coming?You have so many assumptions within your argument that come from popular church teaching it would be hard to know where to begin. Go read all the passages on the antichrist specifically, then come back to me.
JLB made the connection between the abuses of the leadership of the C. Church and the abuse of leadership among the Nicolatians. I don't know nuttin' about that, but I do see the connection between the license to sin endorsed by the C. Church of yore and the Nicolatians.I asked a question about the Nicolaitans, not sure how this became a history lesson on the Papacy. You will not know who the antichrist is until you first remove the log that is in your own eye.
JLB made the connection between the abuses of the leadership of the C. Church and the abuse of leadership among the Nicolatians. I don't know nuttin' about that, but I do see the connection between the license to sin endorsed by the C. Church of yore and the Nicolatians.
JLB fabricated a connection, nothing about the Nicolaitans indicates that their error was creating a hierarchy of leadership. Their error which is clear from Scripture and the Early Christian Church is that they fell into the error of antinomianism, they believed that one didn't have to be righteous at all and could live in indulgence.JLB made the connection between the abuses of the leadership of the C. Church and the abuse of leadership among the Nicolatians. I don't know nuttin' about that, but I do see the connection between the license to sin endorsed by the C. Church of yore and the Nicolatians.
I see the problem being the way the offices of leadership are abused, not that there are offices of leadership.
You just like to hijack whatever Scripture you want, claim that everyone is blind/deluded by ripping a Scripture out of it's context, and think this won't be pointed out?Its the strong delusion Jethro that's keeping the world from seeing the truth even though that truth is right under their noses its no wonder John "wondered with great admiration"
II Thessalonians 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
Apostles, Prophets, Evangelist's, Pastors and Teachers, Bishop's, Deacons and Elders, all speak to us of Leadership.
Sheep need Shepherds.
However, that is not the issue.
It is the Hierarchy that separate's the children of God into classes.
"Royalty" and "Commoners".
Those that "serve", and those that are "served'.
I am just pointing to the Scriptures, rather than Church leaders who were in the midst of a reformation and would often use the Scriptures not in their 1st Century context but apply it to their current day.Doulos.. are you saying you've been enlightened that God has given you a key that opens a different door than the one we've been passing through for thousands of years.. if that's the case this discusion can never go anywhere
Amen, this goes beyond the RCC, this is about how we honor and treat the Scriptures. It does not serve you, do not twist the Word of God!im not a fan of the modern rcc church, but to take a chapter here or there and make them fit for some anti-rcc position is wrong.
Martin Luther was a murderous man, I believe God used this man, but his unrepentant murderous heart makes me fearful for where he ended up.has the Lutherans responsible for the shoah in part with luthers statements of the hate toward the jews apologized? not to my knowledge. I know that most Lutherans wouldn't do that.