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And one more vague, baseless accusation. Just what is your point in posting in here?
Did you forget the point or are you still hoping it can be talked over? The point was that your word is unreliable.
I gave you the examples. I completely understand you don't want to deal with them. I understand the flailing. I just don't care.
 
Ukraine. ANY relaying "information" of any hint of a Ukrainian victory and celebrating such are beyond help.
As far as I can tell, Putin is having so much difficulty because he's trying not to destroy things. He wants to make Ukraine part of Russia with minimal destruction.

On the other hand, if you're the U.S., you'd be more than happy to just destroy everything in sight to grab a quick victory.
Though this faux development might please someone of your character, you being the age you claim to be know that many personalities here are not even real.
What character traits are you referring to? And yes, I know that people online are very different than in-person. (For example, when it comes to online video games, studies have shown that most men have a female character online, and that most women have a male character online.)
 
As far as I can tell, Putin is having so much difficulty because he's trying not to destroy things. He wants to make Ukraine part of Russia with minimal destruction.
No, not that direction. I meant the direction of what voices on here relay from the media. Things like Russian soldiers losing hope and not fighting well, the entire Ghost of Kiev fiasco, the inability to tell that much "war footage" from Ukraine was actually from a video game, etc...

What character traits are you referring to?
I'm referring to the ability of a modern 12 year old to be able to understand that a single person can run a hundred accounts on a single platform and talk to their own selves between those accounts to make it appear a conversation is happening between two or more genuine people, when it's not. That sort of thing. The older folks have a harder time with that.
 
No, not that direction. I meant the direction of what voices on here relay from the media. Things like Russian soldiers losing hope and not fighting well, the entire Ghost of Kiev fiasco, the inability to tell that much "war footage" from Ukraine was actually from a video game, etc...


I'm referring to the ability of a modern 12 year old to be able to understand that a single person can run a hundred accounts on a single platform and talk to their own selves between those accounts to make it appear a conversation is happening between two or more genuine people, when it's not. That sort of thing. The older folks have a harder time with that.
If you think I'm doing that, you're even less intelligent than I thought. You know the mods track unique IP addresses, right?
 
If you think I'm doing that, you're even less intelligent than I thought.
I have clearly been saying others get fooled by this activity, and it shows by what they relay from the media. If you want to jump on that sword and then say I am accusing you of that, I certainly won't stop you from making a spectacle of yourself. What you won't find is any effeminate training in me scrambling to reassure you that isn't what I meant, mostly because it clearly wasn't.

You know the mods track unique IP addresses, right?
Appealing to authority is the core problem of everything being discussed.
 
I have clearly been saying others get fooled by this activity, and it shows by what they relay from the media. If you want to jump on that sword and then say I am accusing you of that, I certainly won't stop you from making a spectacle of yourself. What you won't find is any effeminate training in me scrambling to reassure you that isn't what I meant, mostly because it clearly wasn't.


Appealing to authority is the core problem of everything being discussed.
Just because the media lies about Ukraine doesn't mean they're lying about COVID. Actually, most people who deny COVID still buy the lies about Russia. But you'll notice that these lies about Ukraine don't come from any experts on the subject. But the mainstream narrative about COVID is in fact supported by evidence and experts.
 
Did you forget the point or are you still hoping it can be talked over? The point was that your word is unreliable.
I gave you the examples. I completely understand you don't want to deal with them. I understand the flailing. I just don't care.
Well, all you’ve done in this thread is call people names, engage in ad hominem attacks, and make unsubstantiated, false claims about others’ behaviour. It seems your goal has been to make those who don’t agree with you look bad. It’s all here for anyone to see.

I’ll leave it at that.
 
Well, all you’ve done in this thread is call people names, engage in ad hominem attacks, and make unsubstantiated, false claims about others’ behaviour. It seems your goal has been to make those who don’t agree with you look bad. It’s all here for anyone to see.

I’ll leave it at that.
Is that what I'm doing when I say to JLB that I have no idea how he is even a mod on here? Oh wait, I didn't say that. Who was that I wonder? Who got offended on behalf of "official" information so much that they thought their charges were justified but nobody else's possibly can be?

When someone asks for advice on what to do about bad teachers and you tell them to have a private conversation with leadership, you are telling them to do opposite of what the bible says.
When you try and throw a plug in that a girl has to agree with the marriage in context of the Deuteronomy passages discussed, you lie.
When you tout the "vaccine" as safe and effective yet it is not, you are carrying yet another lie.

I understand you want those charges to be false, or "attacks", but they simply aren't. I'll leave it at that.
 
NY relaying "information" of any hint of a Ukrainian victory and celebrating such are beyond help.
Well, they are kicking Russian butts right now, but the Russians seem to have about nine months of reserves available at the current rate of attrition. Poorly-motivated recruits are facing highly-motivated troops who are fighting for the survival of their nation. Unless something breaks Putin's way, he's stuck in a quagmire he can't find a way out of.
 
When you tout the "vaccine" as safe and effective yet it is not, you are carrying yet another lie.
That's already settled. The numbers clearly show that it is both. Would you like me to show you?
 
It's a coalition of doctors (17,000) speaking out against the effects of the Covid Vaccine.

If you reject the science then that is your choice.

Science isn't a collection of opinions. It's facts. And so far, we haven't even gotten a checkable list of these "17,000 doctors." I think I know why.

Given the "effects" of the COVID-19 vaccines have been a much, much lower rate of hospitalization and death, compared to unvaccinated people, it's little odd that "doctors" oppose it.

COVID-19 Data Comparing Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated Continue to Be Available, Contrary to Viral Posts

According to this data, for example, unvaccinated people over 5 years old were 2.4 times more likely to test positive for COVID-19 and 9 times more likely to die from COVID-19 in January. And in February, unvaccinated adults ages 18 and older were 5 times more likely to have a COVID-19-associated hospitalization than fully vaccinated adults.

The COVID-19 case and death rate data by vaccination status were last updated on March 17, and cover April 2021 to Feb. 19 for cases and through Jan. 29 for deaths. The data for COVID-19-associated hospitalizations by vaccination status from January 2021 to Feb. 26 were posted on March 24, and then updated on March 31.

The agency has not communicated any intention to discontinue these publications.

“The next update for rates of cases and deaths by vaccination status will be mid-April and include case data through mid-March and death data through late February. Hospitalization rates by vaccination status will be updated end of April and will include data through the end of March. These time frames allow the subject matter experts to process and complete a thorough analysis of the data,” CDC spokeswoman Jasmine Reed told us in an email.

Yet, a March 26 tweet, which went viral, claimed that the “CDC is no longer releasing data comparing vaccinated vs unvaccinated deaths & hospitalizations.” Even though the tweet was later deleted by its author, it is still being shared on other platforms.


Scott Morefield, the author of the tweet and a weekly columnist for the conservative website Townhall, told us he wrote it after seeing Dr. Aaron Kheriaty on the March 26 episode of Fox News’ “Unfiltered with Dan Bongino.”

On the show, Kheriaty, who is against COVID-19 vaccine mandates and was recently fired from the University of California, Irvine for refusing to get vaccinated, questioned the effectiveness of vaccines that have proved to be effective in trials and in the real world. He said “we don’t know” how the COVID-19 vaccines are working in the U.S. “because the CDC is no longer releasing their data comparing vaccinated to unvaccinated cases, hospitalizations and deaths.” A Facebook post with the video, uploaded to the show’s page on March 30, has more than 37,000 views.

 
Science isn't a collection of opinions. It's facts. And so far, we haven't even gotten a checkable list of these "17,000 doctors." I think I know why.

Given the "effects" of the COVID-19 vaccines have been a much, much lower rate of hospitalization and death, compared to unvaccinated people, it's little odd that "doctors" oppose it.

COVID-19 Data Comparing Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated Continue to Be Available, Contrary to Viral Posts

According to this data, for example, unvaccinated people over 5 years old were 2.4 times more likely to test positive for COVID-19 and 9 times more likely to die from COVID-19 in January. And in February, unvaccinated adults ages 18 and older were 5 times more likely to have a COVID-19-associated hospitalization than fully vaccinated adults.

The COVID-19 case and death rate data by vaccination status were last updated on March 17, and cover April 2021 to Feb. 19 for cases and through Jan. 29 for deaths. The data for COVID-19-associated hospitalizations by vaccination status from January 2021 to Feb. 26 were posted on March 24, and then updated on March 31.

The agency has not communicated any intention to discontinue these publications.

“The next update for rates of cases and deaths by vaccination status will be mid-April and include case data through mid-March and death data through late February. Hospitalization rates by vaccination status will be updated end of April and will include data through the end of March. These time frames allow the subject matter experts to process and complete a thorough analysis of the data,” CDC spokeswoman Jasmine Reed told us in an email.

Yet, a March 26 tweet, which went viral, claimed that the “CDC is no longer releasing data comparing vaccinated vs unvaccinated deaths & hospitalizations.” Even though the tweet was later deleted by its author, it is still being shared on other platforms.


Scott Morefield, the author of the tweet and a weekly columnist for the conservative website Townhall, told us he wrote it after seeing Dr. Aaron Kheriaty on the March 26 episode of Fox News’ “Unfiltered with Dan Bongino.”

On the show, Kheriaty, who is against COVID-19 vaccine mandates and was recently fired from the University of California, Irvine for refusing to get vaccinated, questioned the effectiveness of vaccines that have proved to be effective in trials and in the real world. He said “we don’t know” how the COVID-19 vaccines are working in the U.S. “because the CDC is no longer releasing their data comparing vaccinated to unvaccinated cases, hospitalizations and deaths.” A Facebook post with the video, uploaded to the show’s page on March 30, has more than 37,000 views.

Right. Anyone really interested in the data can find it easily. On the other hand, if all you do is read viral social media from conservatives, then of course you won't find it.
 
Right. Anyone really interested in the data can find it easily. On the other hand, if all you do is read viral social media from conservatives, then of course you won't find it.
I think it would be a mistake to put all the conservatives in that bin. Many of them are quite aware of the issue and the need for vaccination.

“These shots need to get in everybody's arms as rapidly as possible,” Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said during a press conference Tuesday. House Minority Whip Steve Scalise, the No. 2 House Republican, emphasized the importance of the vaccines after receiving his first dose. A number of GOP governors implored their citizens to get vaccinated — including Florida’s Ron DeSantis, who has been vocal in denouncing strict COVID mitigation strategies, like mask mandates and business closures.

The trend among GOP lawmakers was echoed in conservative media. “I believe in the science of vaccination,” Fox News commentator Sean Hannity said during his primetime show while imploring his viewers to “take COVID seriously.” Although Hannity has since said that he didn’t specifically recommend that his audience get vaccinated, some of his colleagues have been more direct. Fox News has also aired a PSA urging their viewers to get the vaccine. The CEO of Newsmax, a burgeoning conservative network, wrote an editorial praising President Biden’s vaccine rollout.


There is perhaps a good reason for this change of heart (which happened last year)...

The statements come at a time when the U.S. is facing an uptick of COVID-19 deaths, almost entirely among the unvaccinated. Polls show that Republican voters are significantly less likely to be vaccinated than Democrats. Some of the worst outbreaks in the current wave of infections have been concentrated in red states with relatively low rates of vaccination.
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The simplest explanation for the change is that, faced with the stark reality of the new wave of infections devastating conservative parts of the country, high-profile figures on the right believe that a more assertive pro-vaccine message is needed to save lives.

 
Rumble like YouTube is just the platform these doctors are using.


It's a coalition of doctors (17,000) speaking out against the effects of the Covid Vaccine.

If you reject the science then that is your choice.



JLB
And for a while the alternative outlets were the only means to speak out against the agenda. It wasn't until after an upwards of 3 billion got fully "vaxxed" that youtube and Fox News allowed any opposing views. Now we have monkey pox popping up in western nations and young children coming down with hepatitis A, not to mention all the cancers, strokes and heart and lung problems. You provide a lot of great information.
 
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Right. Anyone really interested in the data can find it easily. On the other hand, if all you do is read viral social media from conservatives, then of course you won't find it.
Lol! The irony of that comment, interestingly enough, is it works both ways. Conjecture isn't always truth but conjecture. Agreeably, some people just can't put 2 & 2 together so that data is available to them. It's like the pharmacist said to the woman getting the vax. She asked- " does this work", he answers-" depends on which news outlet you listen to". Lol!
 
I think it would be a mistake to put all the conservatives in that bin. Many of them are quite aware of the issue and the need for vaccination.

“These shots need to get in everybody's arms as rapidly as possible,” Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said during a press conference Tuesday. House Minority Whip Steve Scalise, the No. 2 House Republican, emphasized the importance of the vaccines after receiving his first dose. A number of GOP governors implored their citizens to get vaccinated — including Florida’s Ron DeSantis, who has been vocal in denouncing strict COVID mitigation strategies, like mask mandates and business closures.

The trend among GOP lawmakers was echoed in conservative media. “I believe in the science of vaccination,” Fox News commentator Sean Hannity said during his primetime show while imploring his viewers to “take COVID seriously.” Although Hannity has since said that he didn’t specifically recommend that his audience get vaccinated, some of his colleagues have been more direct. Fox News has also aired a PSA urging their viewers to get the vaccine. The CEO of Newsmax, a burgeoning conservative network, wrote an editorial praising President Biden’s vaccine rollout.


There is perhaps a good reason for this change of heart (which happened last year)...

The statements come at a time when the U.S. is facing an uptick of COVID-19 deaths, almost entirely among the unvaccinated. Polls show that Republican voters are significantly less likely to be vaccinated than Democrats. Some of the worst outbreaks in the current wave of infections have been concentrated in red states with relatively low rates of vaccination.
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The simplest explanation for the change is that, faced with the stark reality of the new wave of infections devastating conservative parts of the country, high-profile figures on the right believe that a more assertive pro-vaccine message is needed to save lives.

Obviously these puppets have to -See no evil, speak no evil, hear no evil concerning the agenda. They'll end up with that black eye 👁 or dead. Any supposed " speaking out" is by design. Controlled opposition is as Russia's Vladimir Lenin said-" With every great revolution there is opposition, we will be the opposition ". That is why so called conservative outlets like Fox News are feckless. They simply grandstand and gaslight the viewer to sleep while absolutely nothing is done about the situation. They have people on like Dr. McCullough and the such- a dollar short and a day late. They can tell you a truth all while promoting the agend. The ultimate goal is not just the Culling but getting the smart kids in the class. With that, they are only preaching to the choir. But those remaing they want that nano biometric tattoo on them- right hand or forehead. The Mark of the beast is a 3 ways operation " Those who have Mark- genome , the Name or the number of his name". Most people don't believe the jabs alter DNA. They do.

Point is, controlled opposition is a way to gage your opponent. The WWW is their web. "Oh what an entangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive " Vav vav vav the 6th letter is the little hook in the hebrew alphabet interpreted = v/w v/w v/w therefore, www is 666. This is satan's playground- the World Wide Web. Even if you think you have some clout or alternative platform, it's all monitored.
 
And explain why it is still experimental. It is no more dangerous than the average vaccine. Have you heard of the situation of Benjamin Franklin? He refused to vaccinate his son because he thought the vaccine was dangerous. His son got the illness and died. Ben wrote that he wished he had been forced to vaccinate his son, and he advised all parents to have their kids get the vaccine.
Oh please 🙄. If it were actually a vax that might be true. Clearly, you have no clue what mRNA is or what it does. I say that concerning the mRNA of external organisms not the body's natural mRNA process. The fact is, in 20 yrs of research scientist have not been successful in producing an mRNA vax that works, or have they? Perhaps it's doing exactly what it is suppose to do? If you think that all men of science and medicine have everyone's best interest in mind then you are not well read concerning history. Blind faith in men is liken too falling off a cliff-🎓 you know what the secert societies allow. That little mason pallet only makes room for their mortar. " The ants 🐜 go marching one by one , hooray hooray, and they all go down in the ground to get out of the rain" Lol! . For a " Romatic Rationalist" you have no commonsense . It is irrational to put blind faith in such men.
 
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