Am I doomed forever?

[Daniel1910]

I grew up in the Christian Church and knew about the power of God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit. There was a time in my life at age 14 after hearing about the unforgivable sin, I believed the lie of the pharisees when they said that Jesus has a demonic spirit and I feel like it's too late for me. I don't have godly sorrow and I tried to come to Christ several times but I damaged my life forever at age 14. I feel like the most abnormal case in the world. 99.9% of the world's population did not experience what I experience at age 14 and I went way too far than most of them. Even Apostle Paul is better than me. I don't have genuine saving faith or repentance. I wish that I had something else to put my mind on at such a young age. What should I do now?

 

[WIP]

Bottom line? Trust Jesus. I am encouraged by the fact that you are asking questions like this and I believe that all is not lost. There is hope but it comes through the Christ. Jesus said, "Most assuredly, I say to you, whoever commits sin is a slave of sin. And a slave does not abide in the house forever, but a son abides forever. Therefore if the Son makes you free, you shall be free indeed."
John 8:34-35 NKJV

12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors—not to the flesh, to live according to the flesh.
13 For if you live according to the flesh you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live.
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God.
15 For you did not receive the spirit of bondage again to fear, but you received the Spirit of adoption by whom we cry out, “Abba, Father.”
16 The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God,
17 and if children, then heirs—heirs of God and joint heirs with Christ, if indeed we suffer with Him, that we may also be glorified together.
Romans 8:12-17 NKJV

 

[jerry63935]

What should I do now?

read 1 john 1:9

 

[Hopeful]

I grew up in the Christian Church and knew about the power of God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit. There was a time in my life at age 14 after hearing about the unforgivable sin, I believed the lie of the pharisees when they said that Jesus has a demonic spirit and I feel like it's too late for me. I don't have godly sorrow and I tried to come to Christ several times but I damaged my life forever at age 14. I feel like the most abnormal case in the world. 99.9% of the world's population did not experience what I experience at age 14 and I went way too far than most of them. Even Apostle Paul is better than me. I don't have genuine saving faith or repentance. I wish that I had something else to put my mind on at such a young age. What should I do now?

Just the fact you are asking shows me you still have faith.
Are you going to repeat the sin from your fourteenth year?
No?
That is what repentance is, to "turn from" or, change".
Find a church, and get with the Christian program.
The Christian life starts with repentance from sin: turning from sin permanently.
Then, water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of past sins.
It will garner the gift of the Holy Ghost, and a rebirth from God's seed.

Start over !!!

 

[Gnostic]

What should I do now?

If a believer, why do you not believe scriptures that say God is patient and will not lose any souls?

1 Timothy 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

Regards
DL

 

[Gnostic]

Bottom line? Trust Jesus.

How immoral of you. Let's chat on Jesus dying for Christians.

Try to think in a moral way.

It takes quite an inflated ego to think a god would actually die for us, after condemning us unjustly in the first place.

Christians have swallowed a lie and don’t care how evil they make Jesus to keep their feel good get out of hell free card.

It is a lie, first and foremost, because, like it or not, having another innocent person suffer or die for the wrongs you have done, --- so that you might escape responsibility for having done them, --- is immoral.

To abdicate your personal responsibility for your actions or use a scapegoat is immoral.

Christians also have to ignore what Jesus, as a Jewish Rabbi, would have taught his people.

Ezekiel 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

Deuteronomy 24:16 (ESV) "Fathers shall not be put to death because of their children, nor shall children be put to death because of their fathers. Each one shall be put to death for his own sin.

Psa 49;7 None of them can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him:

There is no way that Christians would teach their children to use a scapegoat to escape their just punishments and here you are promoting doing just that.
Jesus is just a smidge less immoral than his demiurge genocidal father, and here you are trying to put him as low in moral fiber as Yahweh. Tsk tsk.

Regards
DL

 

[jerry63935]

How immoral of you. Let's chat on Jesus dying for Christians.

Try to think in a moral way.

It takes quite an inflated ego to think a god would actually die for us, after condemning us unjustly in the first place.

Christians have swallowed a lie and don’t care how evil they make Jesus to keep their feel good get out of hell free card.

It is a lie, first and foremost, because, like it or not, having another innocent person suffer or die for the wrongs you have done, --- so that you might escape responsibility for having done them, --- is immoral.

To abdicate your personal responsibility for your actions or use a scapegoat is immoral.

Christians also have to ignore what Jesus, as a Jewish Rabbi, would have taught his people.

Ezekiel 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

Deuteronomy 24:16 (ESV) "Fathers shall not be put to death because of their children, nor shall children be put to death because of their fathers. Each one shall be put to death for his own sin.

Psa 49;7 None of them can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him:

There is no way that Christians would teach their children to use a scapegoat to escape their just punishments and here you are promoting doing just that.
Jesus is just a smidge less immoral than his demiurge genocidal father, and here you are trying to put him as low in moral fiber as Yahweh. Tsk tsk.

Regards
DL

Proverbs 26:4 Do not answer a fool according to his folly, or you yourself will be just like him.

 

[Gnostic]

Proverbs 26:4 Do not answer a fool according to his folly, or you yourself will be just like him.

So deflection is all you are good for.

Kee your garbage morals and ignore what Jesus, who you call a fool, taught.

Ok.

Regards
DL

 

[jerry63935]

Kee your garbage morals and ignore what Jesus, who you call a fool, taught.

ummm spell check Keep **** so if its all a myth garbage why are you in a Christian forum ? are you trying to convince Christians of something that don't exist ( that sounds looks like foolishness } or are you trying to convince your self your right? personally i think your searching for truth.. see the more you hang around the more scripture you will read. which means a seed is planted and you might be converted ..i advise you be very careful Lee Strobel was atheists' Born again Atheist-turned-Christian Lee Strobel is the former award-winning legal editor of The Chicago Tribune and best-selling author of more than twenty books. His classic, The Case for Christ, is a perennial favorite which details his conversion to Christianity you been warned your next awakening moment might be like saul on the Damascus road blinded by the Light saved called to be a apostle

 

[Gnostic]

ummm spell check Keep **** so if its all a myth garbage why are you in a Christian forum ? are you trying to convince Christians of something that don't exist ( that sounds looks like foolishness } or are you trying to convince your self your right? personally i think your searching for truth.. see the more you hang around the more scripture you will read. which means a seed is planted and you might be converted ..i advise you be very careful Lee Strobel was atheists' Born again Atheist-turned-Christian Lee Strobel is the former award-winning legal editor of The Chicago Tribune and best-selling author of more than twenty books. His classic, The Case for Christ, is a perennial favorite which details his conversion to Christianity you been warned your next awakening moment might be like saul on the Damascus road blinded by the Light saved called to be a apostle

Figured I would get garbage instead of a decent apologetics.

You are the one who sees garbage in what Jesus taught on personal responsibility, given that you are ignoring the morality of your abdication of your own sins.

Do you also beat your innocent child instead of the guilty one?

Regards
DL

 

[jerry63935]

here is no way that Christians would teach their children to use a scapegoat to escape their just punishments and here you are promoting doing just that.
Jesus is just a smidge less immoral than his demiurge genocidal father, and here you are trying to put him as low in moral fiber as Yahweh. Tsk tsk.

i see your using scriptures i encourage you to keep reading but you been warned

 

[Gnostic]

i see your using scriptures i encourage you to keep reading but you been warned

What an immature immoral mind.

Shove your warning where it belongs.

Stupid is as stupid does.

Regards
DL

 

[jerry63935]

Figured I would get garbage instead of a decent apologetics.

You are the one who sees garbage in what Jesus taught on personal responsibility, given that you are ignoring the morality of your abdication of your own sins.

Do you also beat your innocent child instead of the guilty one?

Regards
DL

lets see your scree name is Gnostic which is a step away from atheist you have a form of Godliness but deny the power there of . your doing a good job of playing the man in white and me the villainy dressed in black . you are blinded by the god of this world .

your post means absolutely nothing to me. you probably have religion but no relationship by all means feel free to post . your seed is planted on stony ground

 

[jerry63935]

Stupid is as stupid does.

aww resorting to name calling . how intelligent

 

[WIP]

How immoral of you. Let's chat on Jesus dying for Christians.

Try to think in a moral way.

It takes quite an inflated ego to think a god would actually die for us, after condemning us unjustly in the first place.

Christians have swallowed a lie and don’t care how evil they make Jesus to keep their feel good get out of hell free card.

It is a lie, first and foremost, because, like it or not, having another innocent person suffer or die for the wrongs you have done, --- so that you might escape responsibility for having done them, --- is immoral.

To abdicate your personal responsibility for your actions or use a scapegoat is immoral.

Christians also have to ignore what Jesus, as a Jewish Rabbi, would have taught his people.

Ezekiel 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

Deuteronomy 24:16 (ESV) "Fathers shall not be put to death because of their children, nor shall children be put to death because of their fathers. Each one shall be put to death for his own sin.

Psa 49;7 None of them can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him:

There is no way that Christians would teach their children to use a scapegoat to escape their just punishments and here you are promoting doing just that.
Jesus is just a smidge less immoral than his demiurge genocidal father, and here you are trying to put him as low in moral fiber as Yahweh. Tsk tsk.

Regards
DL

You seem very angry.

First, I want to point out that the Questions and Answers forum is not a debate forum. It is for people interested in getting answers to questions about our Christian faith. CFnet is not a place for unbelievers to come and bash our faith. Would you welcome someone into your home if their end game is to bad mouth you or your way of life? Your time here will be short if that is what you're here to do. If you are truly seeking answers or understanding from CFnet members, you are more than welcome here and we are happy to have you, but if your goal is to bash our faith, please find another site.

To address your reply...

You say to "think in a moral way." By who's morality are you referring...yours? You say God condemned us unjustly. It is by your own morality that you are making this judgment. Are you God? Can you lower God to fit neatly into your box?

"O man, who are you to reply against God? Will the thing formed say to him who formed it, 'Why have you made me like this?' Does not the potter have power over the clay, from the same lump to make one vessel for honor and another for dishonor?" (Romans 9:20-21 NKJV) Consider reading all of Romans 9.

We condemned ourselves. We were given everything. An easy life in a garden of beauty and tranquility and in a close mutual relationship with our Creator. We actually lived in a place we all dream of...utopia. There was one rule and only one.

"Of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.” (Genesis 2:17 NKJV)

We chose not to believe God and disregarded that one rule and we have continued in disobedience ever since. But God, in His love for us and despite nearly destroying all of us forever, justly I might add (see Genesis 6-9, the great flood), provided a way for us to be redeemed from our sinful ways. God lowered Himself down to our level and to offer us hope and a way for us to be reconciled to Him again.

"Christ Jesus, who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men. And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross." (Philippians 2:6-8 NKJV)

You can find that peace. One place to start is to lower that wall you have built around yourself and allow yourself to meet God with an open mind. I won't say it will be easy for it will likely be very difficult. I know, I've been there.

 

[Gnostic]

I am not surprised that you ignored the moral aspects of your satanic savior notions.

If you will not discuss the fact that you are ignoring what Jesus taught, get behind me Satan.

Regards
DL

 

[D-D-W]

I grew up in the Christian Church and knew about the power of God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit. There was a time in my life at age 14 after hearing about the unforgivable sin, I believed the lie of the pharisees when they said that Jesus has a demonic spirit and I feel like it's too late for me. I don't have godly sorrow and I tried to come to Christ several times but I damaged my life forever at age 14. I feel like the most abnormal case in the world. 99.9% of the world's population did not experience what I experience at age 14 and I went way too far than most of them. Even Apostle Paul is better than me. I don't have genuine saving faith or repentance. I wish that I had something else to put my mind on at such a young age. What should I do now?

First off, ignore what some are saying here. They are trying to convince you to NOT follow our Lord.

That said, let us look at the scripture where "unforgivable sin" is mentioned.


Mark 3:22
The scribes who came down from Jerusalem were saying, “He is possessed by Beelzebul,” and “He casts out the demons by the ruler of the demons.”
...
28 “Truly I say to you, all sins shall be forgiven the sons of men, and whatever blasphemies they utter; 29 but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin”— 30 because they were saying, “He has an unclean spirit.”

Please note the scribes were SAYING this out loud.
TO whom were they saying it? The people of His home town who had witnessed HIM casting out demons.
WHY did they say that? To persuade people NOT to follow Him.

So unless you are telling others that the miracles our Lord does are demonically inspired, in an effort to keep people from believing in HIM, then you have NOT committed that sin.

 

[Tenchi]

I grew up in the Christian Church and knew about the power of God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit.

Okay.

There was a time in my life at age 14 after hearing about the unforgivable sin, I believed the lie of the pharisees when they said that Jesus has a demonic spirit and I feel like it's too late for me. I don't have godly sorrow and I tried to come to Christ several times but I damaged my life forever at age 14.

You know, the reason the stuff that the Pharisees said about Jesus was so unforgiveable was, in part, because the Pharisees didn't think they'd done anything for which they needed forgiveness. The Pharisees weren't the least troubled by suggesting Jesus was operating in the power of the demonic; they didn't go away feeling fearful they'd gone too far in their accusation against him. Their hearts were so opposed to Jesus, so cold toward him, that they were willing to cast his good deeds as Satanic deceptions. And this is where the real unforgiveable sin exists: In a heart cold toward God.

What the Pharisees said was just a manifestation of what was within them. Many people today, though, think that the great evil of the unforgiveable sin is in a series of words in a particular order communicating a particular idea. They believe if they say the words, like some forbidden magic spell, they'll be forever cut off from God. But the unforgiveable sin of the Pharisees was in their hearts, not their words. "Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks," Jesus said (Luke 6:45). In the case of the Pharisees, this meant a constant stream of hate toward Jesus flowed from their hearts to their mouths, coming out in speech that despised him.

How about you? When you "believed the lie of the Pharisees," did you hate Jesus? And now? Do you still hate him? It doesn't sound like it. The Pharisees didn't try to come back to Jesus. Why would they? The Pharisees thought Jesus was an evil, demonic agent. And this is why they were unforgiveable. But you don't sound like these hard-hearted Pharisees. You sound like you recognize the foolishness of your 14-year-old thinking and want to move on from it. So, go ahead; nothing's stopping you but you. God waits for you with open arms. Read the Story of the Prodigal Son in Luke 15"11-32. It's actually the Story of the Incredible Father who, when he sees his repentant son returning, runs out to embrace him. God is always ready to do the same with you.

What is crucially important isn't godly sorrow but a change of mind about your silly 14-year-old behavior. Repent - change your thinking - about it, forsake it, turn to God in humility and trust and begin to walk again with Him. Maybe you'll feel sorrow over your foolishness; maybe you won't. What's most important is a change of your mind about your relationship with God that moves you back into joyful fellowship with Him.

Acts 3:19 (NASB)
19 "Therefore repent and return, so that your sins may be wiped away, in order that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord;

1 John 1:9 (NASB)
9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

Romans 12:1-2 (NASB)
1 Therefore I urge you, brethren, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies a living and holy sacrifice, acceptable to God, which is your spiritual service of worship.
2 And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, so that you may prove what the will of God is, that which is good and acceptable and perfect.

 

[Anaphora]

Only Gods Elect can commit the unpardonable sin. Matthew 12:31. Wherefore I say unto you, all manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the holy spirit shall not be forgiven unto men. DIA TOUTO in Greek means = therefore. And HAMARTIA means Sin, blasphemy in Greek. Those with free will cant commit the unpardonable sin. Only Gods Elect can, and theirs both women and men. Second Timothy 2:10. Therefore I endure all things for the Elect sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is christ Jesus with eternal glory. DIA TOUTO Greek = Therefore. Salvation is open to everyone . All sins are forgivable by repentance to God in Jesus name.

 

[Anaphora]

I grew up in the Christian Church and knew about the power of God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit. There was a time in my life at age 14 after hearing about the unforgivable sin, I believed the lie of the pharisees when they said that Jesus has a demonic spirit and I feel like it's too late for me. I don't have godly sorrow and I tried to come to Christ several times but I damaged my life forever at age 14. I feel like the most abnormal case in the world. 99.9% of the world's population did not experience what I experience at age 14 and I went way too far than most of them. Even Apostle Paul is better than me. I don't have genuine saving faith or repentance. I wish that I had something else to put my mind on at such a young age. What should I do now?

Hello friend. Only Gods Elect can commit the unpardonable sin. Their both men and women. Documentation, Matthew 12:31. Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of Sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the holy spirit shall not be forgiven unto men. Those with free will cannot commit the unpardonable sin. Acts 2:16. But this is that which was by the prophet Joel; 2:17. And it shall come to pass in the last days, says God, I will pour out of My spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams. EKCHEO in Greek means = poor out, shed forth. VISIONS IN GREEK MEANS = HORASIS. Were talking about God's Elect in the last days. They have the holy spirit. Once again, only the Election can commit the unpardonable sin. Salvation is open to everyone, both free will and elect. Repent sins to God and be forgiven. Stop the guilt trip. You didn't understand what scriptures you read. My advice, find someone who is qualified to teach God's word. Or you can mail me anytime on this chat with questions. PEACE.