Understanding the Holy Spirit Baptism

[live2blive]

No.
Only those who were deceived, or ignorant, thought such a thing.

But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses. (Acts 15:5).

They were believers, this is what written in the Bible.

 

[Dougcho]

Were baptized into Christ by the Holy Spirit.

How about? ...
Were baptized into the church by the Holy Spirit (1 Cor 12:13).

 

[Hopeful 2]

But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses. (Acts 15:5).

They were believers, this is what written in the Bible.

What the Pharisees believed wasn't the same as Paul, or I, believe.
By their insistence on Law keeping, they show a less than total knowledge of Christianity.
At best, they were partial believers.
Still ignorant, in the ways of God.

 

[live2blive]

What the Pharisees believed wasn't the same as Paul, or I, believe.
By their insistence on Law keeping, they show a less than total knowledge of Christianity.
At best, they were partial believers.
Still ignorant, in the ways of God.

I agree that they were ignorant of the certain things of God, even though they believed that Yahshua was the Messiah. This is exactly my point: at that time many believers did not have full understanding of the ways of God. Including Peter who did not understand that water baptism was not important anymore. Paul had better understanding when he declared in Ephesians 4:5 that there is only ONE baptism (baptism of the Holy Spirit), and when he said, For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel (1 Cor 1:17).

 

[Hopeful 2]

I agree that they were ignorant of the certain things of God, even though they believed that Yahshua was the Messiah. This is exactly my point: at that time many believers did not have full understanding of the ways of God.

OK.

Including Peter who did not understand that water baptism was not important /anymore.

Now you are way off base.
If Peter didn't believe water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ was necessary, or that Jesus' command to baptize was to be obeyed, why did he command baptism in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins on the day of Pentecost ?
And again at Cornelius' house ? (Acts 10)

Your church/teachers are commanding men to disobey Jesus and the apostles.

Paul had better understanding when he declared in Ephesians 4:5 that there is only ONE baptism (baptism of the Holy Spirit), and when he said, For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel (1 Cor 1:17).

One from God.
There are still other baptisms.
Jesus sent Paul to preach the good news, but the believers of that news were to repent of sin and get baptized.
If they did, they would receive the gift of the Holy Ghost/Spirit baptism.