Bible Study Mary guess who.

[Corn Pop]

There is too many Marys. Who is who?

Standing by the cross was Mother Mary, and His mother's sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene.

So 3 clear Marys.
Mother Mary.
Mary, Wife of Clopas.
Mary M.

Martha also had a sister called Mary is that another Mary, or, Mother Mary, or Mary M?.

Who is Mother Marys sister, was it Martha at the cross? or is it in the context saying Mary the wife of Clopas is her sister, as it says "standing by the cross was Mother Mary, and His mother's sister, Mary the wife of Clopas", so its saying Mary clopas is Marys sister?.

Hold on there is Mary the mother of James, and Salome, is that another Mary or is it one of the other Marys?

Some say Mother Mary is Martha's sister so that would then mean Mother Mary is the Mary who anointed Jesus feet.

As Jesus and his disciples were on their way, he came to a village where a woman named Martha opened her home to him. She had a sister called Mary. But that was also Simon the leapers house in the other book, so Simon the Leaper must have lived with Martha and was her son or husband or someone because it was the same house Mary anointed Jesus feet. One account says it was Martha's house and the other says it was Simon's house.

I don't know im confused.

 

[Corn Pop]

Going from the different accounts in scriptures near the cross.

1.
Mary M
Mary Mother
Marys sister.

2
Mary M
Mary mother of james, and joses,, And salome
Mary the wife of Clopas.

3.
Mary M
Mary mother of james, Jose's,
And the mother of zebadees sons.

I think there was

Mary M
Mother Mary
Marys sister
Salome
Mary wife of Clopas
The Mother of Zebadees sons.

I just cannot see how only a small few women and they all Marys.

I just don't see how it was

Mary M
Mary Mother
Mary wife of Clopas
Mary mother of james, Jose, who are Zebadees sons and his daughter Salome. It cannot be Mary Clopas as she is married to Clopas so her sons are not Zebedess sons im assuming.

 

[Corn Pop]

There is a Mary in scripture who's Son was a carpenter who probably learn from his Dad Joseph who had brothers named James and Joses, so makes her a Mary mother of a James and Joses, the evidence seems to lead towards her being Mary the Mother of James and Joses at the cross of her other Son the Carpenter, and she is also mentioned being there in another account by name. Mary Mother.

 

[Johann!@#]

There is too many Marys. Who is who?

Standing by the cross was Mother Mary, and His mother's sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene.

So 3 clear Marys.
Mother Mary.
Mary, Wife of Clopas.
Mary M.

Martha also had a sister called Mary is that another Mary, or, Mother Mary, or Mary M?.

Who is Mother Marys sister, was it Martha at the cross? or is it in the context saying Mary the wife of Clopas is her sister, as it says "standing by the cross was Mother Mary, and His mother's sister, Mary the wife of Clopas", so its saying Mary clopas is Marys sister?.

Hold on there is Mary the mother of James, and Salome, is that another Mary or is it one of the other Marys?

Some say Mother Mary is Martha's sister so that would then mean Mother Mary is the Mary who anointed Jesus feet.

As Jesus and his disciples were on their way, he came to a village where a woman named Martha opened her home to him. She had a sister called Mary. But that was also Simon the leapers house in the other book, so Simon the Leaper must have lived with Martha and was her son or husband or someone because it was the same house Mary anointed Jesus feet. One account says it was Martha's house and the other says it was Simon's house.

I don't know im confused.

How Many Mary’s Are in the Bible? Who Were They?

The name Mary was considerably common in Jesus’ day, so it can be easy to confuse all those Mary’s running through the pages of your New Testament. The name Mary appears in the NASB translation in 57 verses. There are six different women named Mary in the Bible.

www.christianity.com

J.

 

[for_his_glory]

Mark 6:3 Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him.

Jesus had four half brothers, James, Joses, Juda and Simon and some sisters, but it's not known how many sisters he had or what their names were. The reason they were all half brothers an sisters is because Joseph was not the biological father of Jesus.

Three mothers named Mary. Mary the mother of Jesus wife of Joseph, his mother's sister Mary, also known as Salome the wife of Zebedee and the mother of James and John as John was the beloved disciple of Jesus. Salome is not to be confused with Salome the daughter of Herodias. And there with the other two Mary's was Mary Magdalene as all three witnessed the Crucifixion of Jesus. When Jesus told John to behold his mother means John's mother as John brought her into his house.

Matthew 27:55 And many women were there beholding afar off, which followed Jesus from Galilee, ministering unto him: 56 Among which was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James and Joses, and the mother of Zebedee's children.

Three mothers named Mary:
1. Mary the mother of Jesus wife of Joseph and the mother of James and Joses.

2. Jesus mother's sister named Mary also known as Salome the wife of Cleophas and then Zebedee and the mother of James and John (two of the twelve disciples). Salome is not to be confused with Salome the daughter of Herodias.
(Note: Mary Salome married Alphaeus, also known as Cleophas, and three of their sons were Apostles being Jude, Thaddeuse Simon the Zealot. Later she married Zebedee and was the mother of James and John.)

3. And there with the other two Mary's was Mary Magdalene as all three witnessed the crucifixion of Jesus.

John 19:26 When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son! 27 Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home.

Jesus looked down from the cross and saw His own mother named Mary and standing by her was His disciple John. Jesus then told John to look at his own mother whose name was Mary the wife of Zebedee. From that hour John took his mother to his own home.

Matthew 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulcher.

Conclusion:

Mary Magdalene (called Magdalene because she was born in Magdala, Israel) and Mary named Marie of Bethany (born at Al-Eizariya name for modern Bethany) are not the same person.

Side note: Marie and Mary are the same name. My Great Aunt's name was Marie when she lived in Romania, but when she came to America it was pronounced Mary.

According to the Genealogy of Eucharis and Cyrus who was the King of the Benjamite tribe in Magdala and a descendant from the House of David are the parents of Mary Magdalene, Mary/Marie of Bethany, Martha and Lazarus.

Mary Magdalene was born in Magdala hence the surname Magdalene, Mary/Marie of Bethany was born in Al-Eizariya later known as Bethany, Martha born in Palestine and was the mother of Mark and John who was a widow, Lazarus was born in Al-Eizariya (Bethany).

This was Mary Magdalene, daughter of Eucharis and Cyrus, a sister to Mary of Bethany, Martha and Lazarus. The other Mary is described in Mark 16:1 as Mary the mother of James and Salome and the wife of Zebedee.

Luke 8:2 And certain women, which had been healed of evil spirits and infirmities, Mary called Magdalene, out of whom went seven devils.

This is the same Mary who had the alabaster jar filled with perfume who poured the perfume over the head of Jesus and also washed and kissed the feet of Jesus, Matthew 26:6-9; Luke 7:36-50; John 12:1-3.

Mary Magdalene, Mary of Bethany, Martha and Lazarus parents were Cyrus and Eucharis from Magdala along the sea of Galilee where Cyrus was the King over the tribe of Benjamin being a royal descendant of the house of David. They had a castle there called Magdalon. A family of wealth and after Cyrus died the children inherited vast riches and possessions. Lazarus took to the military life, Martha ruled her possessions with great discretion and was a model of virtue and propriety sort of addicted to worldly cares. Probably was why she fussed so much when Jesus came to their house. Mary Magdalene involved herself with luxurious pleasures and extravagant life style she was known through all the country as "The Sinner" and very promiscuous. The seven demons which posse her that Jesus cast out of her where the seven deadly sins: gluttony, fornication, covetousness, anger, spiritual sluggishness and ego.

Mark 1:1 And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him.

Mark 15:40 There were also women looking on afar off: among whom was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James the less and of Joses, and Salome;

The other Mary is described in Mark 16:1; Mark 15:40 and Matthew 20:20, 21 as Mary the mother of James and John as she is also known by the name Mary Salome and the wife of Zebedee. She was not a sister to Mary Magdalene, Mary of Bethany, Martha and Lazarus as their parents were Cyrus and Eucharis from Magdala along the sea of Galilee where Cyrus was the King over the tribe of Benjamin being a royal descendant of the house of David.

It can be confusing unless you separate them all and know who their parents are.

John 19:25 we see another Mary, the wife of Cleophas, as being the sister of Mary the mother of Jesus who also brought spices to the tomb of Jesus. Mary, also know called Mary Salome married Alphaeus, also known as Cleophas, and three of their sons were Apostles being Jude, Thaddeus Simon the Zealot. Later she married Zebedee after the death of Cleophas and was the mother of James and John.

John 1:1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulcher, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulcher.

In this verse we only read about Mary Magdalene coming to the tomb very early on the first day of the week (Sunday) possibly right around sunrise as it was still dark so this would have to be at the very end of sabbath being passed. In Mark 1:1 it states sabbath was past and then we not only see Mary Magdalene, but also Mary the mother of James, and Salome (Mary Salome the wife of Cleophas and Zebedee), had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint Jesus.

 

[Johann!@#]

Mary Magdalene involved herself with luxurious pleasures and extravagant life style she was known through all the country as "The Sinner" and very promiscuous. The seven demons which posse her that Jesus cast out of her where the seven deadly sins: gluttony, fornication, covetousness, anger, spiritual sluggishness and ego.

Don't know where this comes from, since you don't cite your source----

Actually, your statement about Mary Magdalene doesn’t come from the Bible-it’s more of a later tradition or speculative idea rather than anything scripturally based. You won’t find any verse that describes her as being involved in luxurious pleasures or having an extravagant lifestyle. Also, the Bible never calls her "The Sinner" or says she was promiscuous.

A lot of this confusion actually comes from the way some traditions have merged Mary Magdalene with the unnamed sinful woman who anointed Jesus' feet in Luke 7:36–50. The problem is, the Bible doesn’t say they’re the same person—it’s just a long-standing misconception.

Then there’s the part about the "seven demons" being the seven deadly sins. That’s not biblical either.

The Gospels do say that Jesus cast seven demons out of Mary Magdalene (Luke 8:2; Mark 16:9), but it doesn’t describe them as the seven deadly sins.

That idea probably came from medieval traditions, especially from Pope Gregory the Great’s sermon around 591 AD, where he identified Mary Magdalene with the sinful woman and implied that her sins were of a sexual nature.

Since then, though, the Catholic Church and most scholars have clarified that there’s no biblical basis for merging those identities. Nowadays, Mary Magdalene is more accurately understood as a devoted follower of Jesus and a witness to His resurrection, without any connection to promiscuity.

Care to give me the link to your source?

Johann.

 

[Corn Pop]

In Mark 1:1 it states sabbath was past and then we not only see Mary Magdalene, but also Mary the mother of James, and Salome (Mary Salome the wife of Cleophas and Zebedee), had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint Jesus.

Where do you get a Mary Salome from?, Mary Salome the wife of a man called Clophas and also the mother of another man called Zebadees sons?. Was she married and had kids with 2 different dudes or something?

I know a Mary who was at her son cross who also had 2 others sons called James and Joses as family related in scripture. I have never heard of a random Mary Salome.

"When the Sabbath was over, Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome.

It dont say Mary M, Mary the mother of James, and Mary Salome.

Mary the mother of James and Joses and a woman called Salome were close together yet I think different individuals.

 

[Johann!@#]

Where do you get a Mary Salome from?, Mary the wife of a man called Clophas and also the mother of man called Zebadees sons?. Was she married to 2 dudes?

I know a Mary who was at her son cross who also had 2 others sons called James and Joses as family related in scripture. I have never heard of a random Mary Salome.

"When the Sabbath was over, Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome.

It dont say Mary M, Mary the mother of James, and Mary Salome.

Mary the mother of James and Joses and a woman called Salome were close together yet I think different individuals.

Actually, the verse she is referring to is Mark 16:1, not Mark 1:1. Here’s how it reads in the NASB:

"When the Sabbath was over, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome bought spices, so that they might come and anoint Him."


1. The Timing:
The verse specifically states, "When the Sabbath was over" (Greek: διαγενομένου τοῦ σαββάτου, diagenomenou tou sabbatou), indicating that the Sabbath had ended, and it was now the beginning of Sunday (the first day of the week).

This aligns with Jewish reckoning of time, where the new day begins at sunset.

2. The Women Present:
Mary Magdalene: A devoted follower of Jesus, first to see the resurrected Christ (John 20:1, 18).

Mary the mother of James: Likely the mother of James the Less (one of the apostles) and Joses (Mark 15:40). She is also identified as the wife of Clopas in John 19:25.

Salome: Identified as the mother of the apostles James and John, the wife of Zebedee (Matthew 27:56). Some traditions suggest that Salome may also be related to Mary, the mother of Jesus.

3. Mary Salome: One Person or Two?
The statement mentions "Mary Salome, the wife of Cleophas and Zebedee." This is a combination of identities that doesn’t align with biblical texts.

Mary the mother of James (also called the wife of Clopas/Cleophas) and Salome, the wife of Zebedee, are separate individuals.

There is no biblical evidence to support that Salome was also the wife of Clopas/Cleophas.

J.

 

[Johann!@#]

Where do you get a Mary Salome from?, Mary Salome the wife of a man called Clophas and also the mother of another man called Zebadees sons?. Was she married and had kids with 2 different dudes or something?

Mary, the mother of Jesus
Primary Role: The mother of Jesus, also called the Virgin Mary.

Key Passages: Matthew 1:16–25, Luke 1:26–56, John 19:25.

Significance: Central figure in the Gospels, present at the crucifixion and the day of Pentecost (Acts 1:14).

Distinctive Features: Called “blessed among women” (Luke 1:42), honored as the mother of the Messiah.

2. Mary Magdalene
Primary Role: Follower of Jesus, first to witness the resurrection.

Key Passages: Luke 8:2, Mark 16:9, John 20:1–18.

Significance: Delivered from seven demons by Jesus; a prominent disciple who remained faithful at the crucifixion and was the first to see the risen Christ.

Distinctive Features: Her name "Magdalene" indicates she was from Magdala.

3. Mary of Bethany
Primary Role: Sister of Martha and Lazarus, close friend of Jesus.

Key Passages: Luke 10:38–42, John 11:1–45, John 12:1–8.

Significance: Known for anointing Jesus’ feet with perfume and wiping them with her hair, as well as sitting at His feet to learn.

Distinctive Features: Demonstrates deep devotion and faith in Jesus.

4. Mary, the wife of Clopas (or Cleophas)
Primary Role: One of the women present at the crucifixion.

Key Passages: John 19:25.

Significance: Referred to as “the other Mary” in Matthew 27:61 and 28:1, and as the wife of Clopas.

Distinctive Features: Sometimes identified as the mother of James the Less and Joses (Mark 15:40).

5. Mary, the mother of James the Less and Joses
Primary Role: A follower of Jesus who witnessed His crucifixion and burial.

Key Passages: Mark 15:40, Mark 16:1, Luke 24:10.

Significance: Accompanied Mary Magdalene to the tomb after the Sabbath.

Distinctive Features: Likely the same as Mary, the wife of Clopas (John 19:25), but the text does not explicitly confirm this.

6. Mary, the mother of John Mark
Primary Role: Early Christian, host of a house church in Jerusalem.

Key Passages: Acts 12:12.

Significance: Mother of John Mark, the writer of the Gospel of Mark, and associated with the house where Peter went after being freed from prison.

Distinctive Features: Known for hospitality and support of the early Christian community.

7. Mary of Rome
Primary Role: A Christian woman greeted by Paul.

Key Passages: Romans 16:6.

Significance: Commended by Paul for her hard work in the Roman church.

Distinctive Features: Likely a Jewish Christian residing in Rome, although little else is known about her.


So yes, there are seven Marys mentioned in the New Testament, each playing a unique role in the life of Jesus or the early church. The most prominent are Mary, the mother of Jesus and Mary Magdalene, but each of the others also contributed in their own way.

J.

 

[for_his_glory]

Don't know where this comes from, since you don't cite your source----

Actually, your statement about Mary Magdalene doesn’t come from the Bible-it’s more of a later tradition or speculative idea rather than anything scripturally based. You won’t find any verse that describes her as being involved in luxurious pleasures or having an extravagant lifestyle. Also, the Bible never calls her "The Sinner" or says she was promiscuous.

A lot of this confusion actually comes from the way some traditions have merged Mary Magdalene with the unnamed sinful woman who anointed Jesus' feet in Luke 7:36–50. The problem is, the Bible doesn’t say they’re the same person—it’s just a long-standing misconception.

Then there’s the part about the "seven demons" being the seven deadly sins. That’s not biblical either.

The Gospels do say that Jesus cast seven demons out of Mary Magdalene (Luke 8:2; Mark 16:9), but it doesn’t describe them as the seven deadly sins.

That idea probably came from medieval traditions, especially from Pope Gregory the Great’s sermon around 591 AD, where he identified Mary Magdalene with the sinful woman and implied that her sins were of a sexual nature.

Since then, though, the Catholic Church and most scholars have clarified that there’s no biblical basis for merging those identities. Nowadays, Mary Magdalene is more accurately understood as a devoted follower of Jesus and a witness to His resurrection, without any connection to promiscuity.

Care to give me the link to your source?

Johann.

I do not have a specific link, but compiled all of this years ago from doing a background on each Mary. I never said Mary had seven deadly sins, but seven demons that Jesus cast out of her. This has nothing to do with Catholicism and not everything is found in the scriptures. Anyone can do a search of all the Mary's that are found in scripture. In my seventy years I have researched many things pertaining to the Bible.

Maybe you need to be slow before you accuse others of false accusations and look these things up for yourself before you judge others.

 

[Johann!@#]

I do not have a specific link, but compiled all of this years ago from doing a background on each Mary. I never said Mary had seven deadly sins, but seven demons that Jesus cast out of her. This has nothing to do with Catholicism and not everything is found in the scriptures. Anyone can do a search of all the Mary's that are found in scripture. In my seventy years I have researched many things pertaining to the Bible.

Maybe you need to be slow before you accuse others of false accusations and look these things up for yourself before you judge others.

You made this claim, and I’m asking for a link to verify it. I’ve looked into this myself because you’re not the only one researching. So, I’ll ask again--where in Scripture do you find this?


Mary Magdalene, Mary of Bethany, Martha and Lazarus parents were Cyrus and Eucharis from Magdala along the sea of Galilee where Cyrus was the King over the tribe of Benjamin being a royal descendant of the house of David. They had a castle there called Magdalon. A family of wealth and after Cyrus died the children inherited vast riches and possessions. Lazarus took to the military life, Martha ruled her possessions with great discretion and was a model of virtue and propriety sort of addicted to worldly cares. Probably was why she fussed so much when Jesus came to their house. Mary Magdalene involved herself with luxurious pleasures and extravagant life style she was known through all the country as "The Sinner" and very promiscuous. The seven demons which posse her that Jesus cast out of her where the seven deadly sins: gluttony, fornication, covetousness, anger, spiritual sluggishness and ego.

Don’t put it on me for “judging” or throwing accusations--you’re doing a pretty good job of that on your own. for_his_glory

Johann.

 

[Corn Pop]

The scripture says Jesus had a few brothers and two were called James and Joses and he had sisters, so that would make Mother Mary the mother of James and Joses, even if Catholics believe its family relation only and not her biological children. I think it makes sense she is at her son Jesus cross and called the mother of James and Joses who are Jesus brothers that are her other sons in scripture, and another account says its Mary the mother of Jesus, same person, different accounts.

Why would scripture tell us it was Mary the mother of James and joses if we have no idea who that even is, yet scripture does tell us who a Mary the mother of a James and joses is by saying Jesus had brothers called James and Joses, so that makes sense who would be Mary the mother of James and joses at Jesus cross, and that's Mother Mary.

When it says Mother of James and Jose's, and Salome, Salome is a different person and a woman called Salome was a close follower of Jesus so makes sense, i dont think its a Marys daughter and sister of a James and Joses. Same when it says James and Joses and the mother of zebadees sons, the mother of zebadees sons is another Mother. It's says Mary the mother of James and joses, and the Mother of Zebadees sons. Thd mother of Zebadees sons is another mother and woman there. Just my view and opinion I understand people may disagree.

 

[for_his_glory]

Corn Pop and Johann!@#

I rewrote that of what I first posted. Hoping this clears things up about the three Mary's.

Three mothers named Mary in scripture. Mary the mother of Jesus, wife of Joseph, Mary, also known as Salome, the wife of Zebedee. Salome is not to be confused with Salome the daughter of Herodias. And there with the other two Mary's was Mary Magdalene as all three witnessed the Crucifixion of Jesus.

Matthew 27:55 And many women were there beholding afar off, which followed Jesus from Galilee, ministering unto him: 56 Among which was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James and Joses, and the mother of Zebedee's children.

Three mothers named Mary:
1. Mary the mother of Jesus, wife of Joseph, and the mother of James, Joses, Juda, and Simon

2. Mary, also known as Salome, the wife of Zebedee, being the mother of James and John, called the Sons of Thunder, Mark 1:20; Mark 16:1

3. And there with the other two Mary's was Mary Magdalene being a follower of Christ as all three witnessed the crucifixion of Jesus.

John 19:26 When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son! 27 Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home.

Jesus looked down from the cross and saw His own mother named Mary and standing by her was His disciple John. Jesus then told John to look at his own mother whose name was Mary the wife of Zebedee. From that hour John took his mother to his own home.

Matthew 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulcher.
Mark 16:1 And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him.

The other Mary mentioned in that scripture was Mary Salome, the wife of Zebedee who also brought spices to the tomb of Jesus, Mark 16:1.




Conclusion:

Mary Magdalene (called Magdalene because she was born in Magdala, Israel) and Mary named Marie of Bethany (born at Al-Eizariya name for modern Bethany) are not the same person.

Side note: Marie and Mary are the same name. My Great Aunt's name was Marie when she lived in Romania, but when she came to America it was pronounced Mary.

According to the Genealogy of Eucharis and Cyrus who was the King of the Benjamite tribe in Magdala and a descendant from the House of David are the parents of Mary Magdalene, Mary/Marie of Bethany, Martha and Lazarus.

Mary Magdalene was born in Magdala hence the surname Magdalene, Mary/Marie of Bethany was born in Al-Eizariya later known as Bethany, Martha born in Palestine and was the mother of Mark and John who was a widow, Lazarus was born in Al-Eizariya (Bethany).

This was Mary Magdalene, daughter of Eucharis and Cyrus, a sister to Mary of Bethany, Martha and Lazarus. The other Mary is described in Mark 16:1 as Mary the mother of James, the wife of Zebedee.

Luke 8:2 And certain women, which had been healed of evil spirits and infirmities, Mary called Magdalene, out of whom went seven devils.

This is the same Mary who had the alabaster jar filled with perfume who poured the perfume over the head of Jesus and also washed and kissed the feet of Jesus, Matthew 26:6-9; Luke 7:36-50; John 12:1-3.

Mary Magdalene, Mary of Bethany, Martha and Lazarus parents were Cyrus and Eucharis from Magdala along the sea of Galilee where Cyrus was the King over the tribe of Benjamin being a royal descendant of the house of David. They had a castle there called Magdalon. A family of wealth and after Cyrus died the children inherited vast riches and possessions. Lazarus took to the military life, Martha ruled her possessions with great discretion and was a model of virtue and propriety sort of addicted to worldly cares. Probably was why she fussed so much when Jesus came to their house. Mary Magdalene involved herself with luxurious pleasures and extravagant life style she was known through all the country as "The Sinner" and very promiscuous. The seven demons which posse her that Jesus cast out of her where the seven deadly sins: gluttony, fornication, covetousness, anger, spiritual sluggishness and ego.

The other Mary is described in Mark 16:1; Mark 15:40 and Matthew 20:20, 21 as Mary the mother of James and John as she is also known by the name Mary Salome and the wife of Zebedee. She was not a sister to Mary Magdalene, Mary of Bethany, Martha and Lazarus as their parents were Cyrus and Eucharis from Magdala along the sea of Galilee where Cyrus was the King over the tribe of Benjamin being a royal descendant of the house of David.

It can be confusing unless you separate them all and know who their parents are.

John 19:25 we see another Mary, the wife of Cleophas, as only Church tradition says she is the sister-in-law of Mary the mother of Jesus through Cleophas being a brother of Joseph. She also brought spices to the tomb of Jesus. It is believed that Mary and Cleophas were the parents of children named James (the lesser), Simon, Thaddeus and Joseph. Mary and Zebedee were the parents of James the greater and John who was beloved of Christ who became an Apostle.

John 1:1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulcher, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulcher.

In this verse we only read about Mary Magdalene coming to the tomb very early on the first day of the week (Sunday) possibly right around sunrise as it was still dark so this would have to be at the very end of sabbath being passed. In Mark 1:1 it states sabbath was past and then we not only see Mary Magdalene, but also Mary the mother of James (the lesser), and Mary Salome the wife of Cleophas, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint Jesus.

Mat 27:56 Among which was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James (the lesser) and Joses, and Mary Salome wife of Zebedee's children John and James the Great.

 

[Johann!@#]

Corn Pop and Johann!@#

I rewrote that of what I first posted. Hoping this clears things up about the three Mary's.

Three mothers named Mary in scripture. Mary the mother of Jesus, wife of Joseph, Mary, also known as Salome, the wife of Zebedee. Salome is not to be confused with Salome the daughter of Herodias. And there with the other two Mary's was Mary Magdalene as all three witnessed the Crucifixion of Jesus.

Matthew 27:55 And many women were there beholding afar off, which followed Jesus from Galilee, ministering unto him: 56 Among which was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James and Joses, and the mother of Zebedee's children.

Three mothers named Mary:
1. Mary the mother of Jesus, wife of Joseph, and the mother of James, Joses, Juda, and Simon

2. Mary, also known as Salome, the wife of Zebedee, being the mother of James and John, called the Sons of Thunder, Mark 1:20; Mark 16:1

3. And there with the other two Mary's was Mary Magdalene being a follower of Christ as all three witnessed the crucifixion of Jesus.

John 19:26 When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son! 27 Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home.

Jesus looked down from the cross and saw His own mother named Mary and standing by her was His disciple John. Jesus then told John to look at his own mother whose name was Mary the wife of Zebedee. From that hour John took his mother to his own home.

Matthew 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulcher.
Mark 16:1 And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him.

The other Mary mentioned in that scripture was Mary Salome, the wife of Zebedee who also brought spices to the tomb of Jesus, Mark 16:1.




Conclusion:

Mary Magdalene (called Magdalene because she was born in Magdala, Israel) and Mary named Marie of Bethany (born at Al-Eizariya name for modern Bethany) are not the same person.

Side note: Marie and Mary are the same name. My Great Aunt's name was Marie when she lived in Romania, but when she came to America it was pronounced Mary.

According to the Genealogy of Eucharis and Cyrus who was the King of the Benjamite tribe in Magdala and a descendant from the House of David are the parents of Mary Magdalene, Mary/Marie of Bethany, Martha and Lazarus.

Mary Magdalene was born in Magdala hence the surname Magdalene, Mary/Marie of Bethany was born in Al-Eizariya later known as Bethany, Martha born in Palestine and was the mother of Mark and John who was a widow, Lazarus was born in Al-Eizariya (Bethany).

This was Mary Magdalene, daughter of Eucharis and Cyrus, a sister to Mary of Bethany, Martha and Lazarus. The other Mary is described in Mark 16:1 as Mary the mother of James, the wife of Zebedee.

Luke 8:2 And certain women, which had been healed of evil spirits and infirmities, Mary called Magdalene, out of whom went seven devils.

This is the same Mary who had the alabaster jar filled with perfume who poured the perfume over the head of Jesus and also washed and kissed the feet of Jesus, Matthew 26:6-9; Luke 7:36-50; John 12:1-3.

Mary Magdalene, Mary of Bethany, Martha and Lazarus parents were Cyrus and Eucharis from Magdala along the sea of Galilee where Cyrus was the King over the tribe of Benjamin being a royal descendant of the house of David. They had a castle there called Magdalon. A family of wealth and after Cyrus died the children inherited vast riches and possessions. Lazarus took to the military life, Martha ruled her possessions with great discretion and was a model of virtue and propriety sort of addicted to worldly cares. Probably was why she fussed so much when Jesus came to their house. Mary Magdalene involved herself with luxurious pleasures and extravagant life style she was known through all the country as "The Sinner" and very promiscuous. The seven demons which posse her that Jesus cast out of her where the seven deadly sins: gluttony, fornication, covetousness, anger, spiritual sluggishness and ego.

The other Mary is described in Mark 16:1; Mark 15:40 and Matthew 20:20, 21 as Mary the mother of James and John as she is also known by the name Mary Salome and the wife of Zebedee. She was not a sister to Mary Magdalene, Mary of Bethany, Martha and Lazarus as their parents were Cyrus and Eucharis from Magdala along the sea of Galilee where Cyrus was the King over the tribe of Benjamin being a royal descendant of the house of David.

It can be confusing unless you separate them all and know who their parents are.

John 19:25 we see another Mary, the wife of Cleophas, as only Church tradition says she is the sister-in-law of Mary the mother of Jesus through Cleophas being a brother of Joseph. She also brought spices to the tomb of Jesus. It is believed that Mary and Cleophas were the parents of children named James (the lesser), Simon, Thaddeus and Joseph. Mary and Zebedee were the parents of James the greater and John who was beloved of Christ who became an Apostle.

John 1:1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulcher, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulcher.

In this verse we only read about Mary Magdalene coming to the tomb very early on the first day of the week (Sunday) possibly right around sunrise as it was still dark so this would have to be at the very end of sabbath being passed. In Mark 1:1 it states sabbath was past and then we not only see Mary Magdalene, but also Mary the mother of James (the lesser), and Mary Salome the wife of Cleophas, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint Jesus.

Mat 27:56 Among which was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James (the lesser) and Joses, and Mary Salome wife of Zebedee's children John and James the Great.

The information you've encountered regarding Mary Magdalene, Mary of Bethany, Martha, and Lazarus being siblings born to parents named Cyrus and Eucharis, with connections to a castle called Magdalon, originates from medieval Christian legends and apocryphal writings, rather than from canonical Scripture or early historical records.

Origins of the Narrative
This particular narrative is primarily derived from the Golden Legend (Legenda Aurea), a 13th-century collection of hagiographies compiled by Jacobus de Voragine. In this compilation, Mary Magdalene is portrayed as the daughter of noble lineage, with her father named Cyrus and her mother Eucharis. She, along with her siblings Martha and Lazarus, is said to have inherited significant properties, including the castle of Magdala, which purportedly gave Mary her surname. This legend further describes Mary Magdalene as leading a life of luxury before her conversion, a narrative that has influenced various traditions and artworks over the centuries .

Martha - Wikipedia

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Biblical Account
In contrast, the canonical Gospels provide limited information about Mary Magdalene's background. She is introduced as a follower of Jesus from whom seven demons were cast out (Luke 8:2) and is noted for being present at Jesus' crucifixion and as the first to witness His resurrection (Mark 16:9). Mary of Bethany, on the other hand, is identified as the sister of Martha and Lazarus, residing in the village of Bethany (John 11:1). The Gospels do not provide details about their parentage or suggest any familial connection between Mary Magdalene and Mary of Bethany

Mary Magdalene - Wikipedia

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Modern Scholarly Perspective
Contemporary biblical scholarship generally treats Mary Magdalene and Mary of Bethany as distinct individuals. The conflation of these figures, along with the unnamed sinful woman in Luke 7, was popularized by Pope Gregory I in a sermon delivered in 591 AD. However, this identification has been reconsidered in modern times, with many scholars and denominations acknowledging the lack of biblical evidence for such a merger .

Were Mary Magdalene and Mary Bethany the same person?

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Just to sum it up--

The detailed genealogical and biographical information you've read about Mary Magdalene and her supposed siblings stems from medieval legends and apocryphal texts, not from the canonical Scriptures. While these stories have played a role in Christian tradition and art, they are not considered historical accounts by contemporary scholars.

Not being facetious, this is how I appreciate secondary sources, with proper links.

J.

 

[for_his_glory]

Don’t put it on me for “judging” or throwing accusations--you’re doing a pretty good job of that on your own. @for_his_glory

I told you it takes history to study who some people are and where they came from that is not contained in the scriptures other than their names and relevance to the scriptures. I can not pinpoint any certain sources I used as I used many in writing this article. What I wrote is the background research of Mary Magdalene, her parents and siblings. It's not that hard to look up if you want to do the research.

If you are going to continue to be so rude to me then I really have nothing to share with you.

 

[Johann!@#]

I told you it takes history to study who some people are and where they came from that is not contained in the scriptures other than their names and relevance to the scriptures. I can not pinpoint any certain sources I used as I used many in writing this article. What I wrote is the background research of Mary Magdalene, her parents and siblings. It's not that hard to look up if you want to do the research.

If you are going to continue to be so rude to me then I really have nothing to share with you.

Not at all--like you, I’ve done my research, and I believe it’s just courteous and polite to share the links. That’s just how I am—a visual person. I’m sure you can understand where I’m coming from here.

I do appreciate you sharing--there’s nothing wrong with that at all. But when secondary sources are being cited, it’s important to give credit where it’s due.

Correct?

Johann.

 

[Corn Pop]

The Mary's named in scripture at the cross were

Mary M.
Mary mother of Jesus.
Mary wife of Clopas.
Mary the mother of james and joses who i think is the same Mary mother of Jesus. There is no one named "Mary Salome" or "Mary the mother of Zebadees sons" as i think they different individuals.

"Among which was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James and Joses, and the mother of Zebedee's children."


Zebadee has sons James and John not James and Joseph (joses).

"Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome. "

There are 3 women in that verse. Mary M, Mary the mother of James, and Salome.

How could there be so many Marys.

Mary M.
Mother Mary.
Mary mother of james and joses.
Mary Salome mother of james and John the sons of zebadee.
Mary the wife of Clopas.


In Matthew 27 it says
"Among them were Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James and Joses, and the mother of Zebedee’s sons.

And continues to says

"Mary Magdalene and the other Mary were sitting there opposite the tomb."

It's saying there were 2 Marys and the Mother of Zebadees sons was probably not a Mary otherwise the scripture makes no sense, Mary M and the other Mary, well what one?, obviously Mary the mother of James and Joses, not "Mary Salome mother of zebadees sons" who somehow without scripture to back it up is somehow is called Mary Salome the mother of Zebadees sons James and John.

 

[Johann!@#]

There is no one named "Mary Salome" or "Mary the mother of Zebadees sons" as i think they different individuals.

In the New Testament, Salome is mentioned as one of the women who followed Jesus and was present at His crucifixion and resurrection (Mark 15:40; 16:1). Tradition identifies her as the wife of Zebedee and the mother of James and John. However, the name "Mary Salome" as a combined name does not appear in the biblical text. So you are correct.

The conflation of the names "Mary" and "Salome" likely arose from later Christian traditions and interpretations, particularly in medieval and Catholic writings, where Salome is sometimes referred to as "Mary Salome" to distinguish her from other women named Mary.

Johann.

 

[Corn Pop]

In the New Testament, Salome is mentioned as one of the women who followed Jesus and was present at His crucifixion and resurrection (Mark 15:40; 16:1). Tradition identifies her as the wife of Zebedee and the mother of James and John. However, the name "Mary Salome" as a combined name does not appear in the biblical text. So you are correct.

The conflation of the names "Mary" and "Salome" likely arose from later Christian traditions and interpretations, particularly in medieval and Catholic writings, where Salome is sometimes referred to as "Mary Salome" to distinguish her from other women named Mary.

Johann.

It's just someones interpretation that got into the church yet there is nothing in scripture to link Salome as the mother of Zebadees Sons James and John. Correct me if im wrong.

 

[Johann!@#]

It's just someones interpretation that got into the church yet there is nothing in scripture to link Salome as the mother of Zebadees Sons James and John. Correct me if im wrong.

You’re correct. There is no direct scriptural evidence explicitly identifying Salome as the wife of Zebedee or the mother of James and John.

The association largely comes from comparing Gospel passages. In Matthew 27:56, the text mentions "Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James and Joseph, and the mother of the sons of Zebedee." Meanwhile, Mark 15:40 mentions "Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James the Less and Joses, and Salome." Because these verses describe a similar scene, many have concluded that Salome is the wife of Zebedee.

However, this connection is inferential rather than explicit. The Bible does not directly state that Salome is Zebedee’s wife or the mother of James and John. The identification is based on harmonizing the Gospel accounts rather than a clear biblical statement.

J.