WHATEVER HAPPENED TO SIN

[donadams]

We definitely agree that pride month needs to be washed away.

and the only thing that can wash it away is the precious blood?

 

[JLB]

that comes from the penny catechism and the answer to the question: why was I created? to know love and serve God in this life and to be happy with Him in the next.

thks

I don’t do catechisms.

I do scripture.

I do agree that pride month should be washed away. It’s an abomination.

Let’s find ways to agree.

 

[JLB]

and the only thing that can wash it away is the precious blood?

Repentance is how the blood of Jesus is applied.

 

[donadams]

I don’t do catechisms.

I do scripture.

I do agree that pride month should be washed away. It’s an abomination.

Let’s find ways to agree.

even luther had a catechism

catechism means teaching

teaching of the apostles like the creeds which are supported by scripture acts 2:42

 

[donadams]

what scripture? the koran? the book of mormon, the gospel of thomas?

how do we know what is and what is not sacred scripture?

 

[donadams]

I don’t do catechisms.

I do scripture.

I do agree that pride month should be washed away. It’s an abomination.

Let’s find ways to agree.

Is the bible alone your only authority?

 

[JLB]

even luther had a catechism

catechism means teaching

teaching of the apostles like the creeds which are supported by scripture acts 2:42

The teaching I follow is the doctrine (teaching) of Christ.

Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son.
2 John 9


If you choose to follow the teachings of Catholicism then that’s your willful choice.


Christians are follows of the teachings of Christ.

 

[JLB]

Is the bible alone your only authority?

Jesus Christ is my Lord.

Therefore I follow His doctrine.

Christians are follows of the teachings of Christ.


Catholic’s follow the teachings of Catholicism.

Mormon’s follow the teachings of Mormonism.

Hindu’s follow the teachings of Hinduism.


Each person must choose to follow the teachings of the one they believe to be their Lord.

 

[donadams]

The teaching I follow is the doctrine (teaching) of Christ.

Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son.
2 John 9


If you choose to follow the teachings of Catholicism then that’s your willful choice.


Christians are follows of the teachings of Christ.

scripture and tradition?

like the bereans?

 

[donadams]

Jesus Christ is my Lord.

Therefore I follow His doctrine.

Christians are follows of the teachings of Christ.


Catholic’s follow the teachings of Catholicism.

Mormon’s follow the teachings of Mormonism.

Hindu’s follow the teachings of Hinduism.


Each person must choose to follow the teachings of the one they believe to be their Lord.

Christ established the true church!

Christ is the teacher!
Heb 1:1-3

The church He founded is also our teacher as an extension and command of Christ! Matt 18:17

Christ is the truth!
Jn 14:6

Must Hear Christ!
matt 3:17

Must hear the Church!
Matt 18:17 matt 28:19 acts 1:8

The church He founded is also the pillar of truth as an extension and command of Christ! 1 tim 3:15

The gates of hell SHALL NOT prevail against the one, holy, Catholics,
& apostolic church founded by Christ on peter and the apostles!
Matt 16:18-19

Jesus Christ founded the new covenant church to teach & sanctify all men unto eternal salvation of all men! matt 28:19-20

Christ and His church are one: Acts 9:4 mystical communion: eph 5:32

 

[JLB]

scripture and tradition?

like the bereans?

could you share the scripture you are referring to?

 

[JLB]

Christ established the true church!

Christ is the teacher!
Heb 1:1-3

Agreed.

Here is the scripture that us this truth.

But the anointing which you have received from Him abides in you, and you do not need that anyone teach you; but as the same anointing teaches you concerning all things, and is true, and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you will abide in Him.
1 John 2:27

• the anointing which you have received from Him abides in you, and you do not need that anyone teach you;

We have the record of teachings that His Apostles left us, which we call the scriptures.

And we have the Spirit of Truth, the Spirit of Christ that leads us and guides us into all truth.

The Spirit of Christ, the anointing teaches us all things, illuminating the scriptures to us;
Illuminating the doctrine of Christ to us.


Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son.
2 John 9

 

[donadams]

could you share the scripture you are referring to?

The Bereans incident!

The berean incident supports both scripture and tradition!

(((NOT SCRIPTURE ALONE!)))

acts 17:3 Opening and alleging, that Christ must needs have suffered, and risen again from the dead; and that this Jesus, whom I preach unto you, is Christ.

(There is no single verse in the O.T. that says this)

one verse that refers to suffering is Isa 53 but it does not say it refers to Christ.

acts 8:30-35

35 And Philip ran thither to him, and heard him read the prophet Esaias, and said, Understandest thou what thou readest?

31 And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him.

32 The place of the scripture which he read was this, He was led as a sheep to the slaughter; and like a lamb dumb before his shearer, so opened he not his mouth:

33 In his humiliation his judgment was taken away: and who shall declare his generation? for his life is taken from the earth.

34 And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee, of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other man?

35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.

The fact that Isa 53 refers to Jesus Christ is only according to apostolic tradition of Paul and Philip!

The jews and I have communicated with them on this site DO NOT accept Isa 53 as reference to Christ but to Israel itself, and they say Paul is a hetetic and traitor.


The bereans believed both the scripture and tradition!!!

 

[donadams]

Agreed.

Here is the scripture that us this truth.

But the anointing which you have received from Him abides in you, and you do not need that anyone teach you; but as the same anointing teaches you concerning all things, and is true, and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you will abide in Him.
1 John 2:27

• the anointing which you have received from Him abides in you, and you do not need that anyone teach you;

We have the record of teachings that His Apostles left us, which we call the scriptures.

And we have the Spirit of Truth, the Spirit of Christ that leads us and guides us into all truth.

The Spirit of Christ, the anointing teaches us all things, illuminating the scriptures to us;
Illuminating the doctrine of Christ to us.


Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son.
2 John 9

after the apostolic church teaches us and baptized us!

 

[JLB]

35 And Philip ran thither to him, and heard him read the prophet Esaias, and said, Understandest thou what thou readest?

31 And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him.

32 The place of the scripture which he read was this, He was led as a sheep to the slaughter; and like a lamb dumb before his shearer, so opened he not his mouth:

33 In his humiliation his judgment was taken away: and who shall declare his generation? for his life is taken from the earth.

34 And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee, of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other man?

35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.

Where is tradition mentioned?

He was reading Isaiah.

Phillip began at the same scripture.

 

[JLB]

after the apostolic church teaches us and baptized us!

Show me the scripture that references an “apostolic church”?

 

[donadams]

Where is tradition mentioned?

He was reading Isaiah.

Phillip began at the same scripture.

Isa 53 is scripture but does not say it refers to Christ

the apostolic tradition (teaching) of Philip and Paul
do!

scripture and tradition!

 

[donadams]

Show me the scripture that references an “apostolic church”?

eph 2:19-21
19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;

20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;

21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:

 

[JLB]

Isa 53 is scripture but does not say it refers to Christ

the apostolic tradition (teaching) of Philip and Paul
do!

scripture and tradition!

Brother you are making up things out of thin air.

Phillip taught the Eunuch from the scriptures. As an unbeliever Phillip used the very scripture the Eunuch was reading at that moment to reveal Christ to Him.


He is despised and rejected by men,
A Man of sorrows and acquainted with grief.
And we hid, as it were, our faces from Him;
He was despised, and we did not esteem Him.
Surely He has borne our griefs
And carried our sorrows;
Yet we esteemed Him stricken,
Smitten by God, and afflicted.
But He was wounded for our transgressions,
He was bruised for our iniquities;
The chastisement for our peace was upon Him,
And by His stripes we are healed.
All we like sheep have gone astray;
We have turned, every one, to his own way;
And the LORD has laid on Him the iniquity of us all.
Isaiah 53:3-6


who Himself bore our sins in His own body on the tree, that we, having died to sins, might live for righteousness—by whose stripes you were healed. For you were like sheep going astray, but have now returned to the Shepherd and Overseer of your souls.
1 Peter 2:24-25

No Pope or Bishop or Catholic Priest or Catechism ever taught me who these scriptures were referring to.


Did Peter ever mention these scriptures were referring to Christ?

 

[JLB]

20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;

The Apostles gave us the scriptures in the New Testament.

The Prophets such as Moses gave us the scriptures from the Old Testament.


Not Popes or Cardinals.


Where is Pope or Cardinal mentioned in scripture?