Is “Easter” in the original Scriptures?

[Hidden In Him]

Maybe I'm ignorant but where is the egg used in the Protestant liturgy? What is its role in church?

If by Protestantism you mean mainline Protestantism, they have the same traditions as the Catholics do.

The same could be said of crosses. What about electric lighting? Chairs?

There are several favorable references to the cross in scripture, Lana. And chairs are also mentioned several times. Electric lighting had not been invented yet, but the egg was clearly in existence back then, so if it was looked upon favorably in religious contexts it would have been mentioned in scripture if God wanted us placing an importance upon it similar to what the pagans did.

And what is the anastasis if not a rebirth of kind?

I'm not questioning anastasis. I'm questioning the use of the egg to commemorate it.

 

[LanaPodesta]

If by Protestantism you mean mainline Protestantism, they have the same traditions as the Catholics do.

Okay. Generally speaking, how does the egg play a role? Eggs aren't a part of the Paschal (Easter) liturgies, and their consumption is prohibited during Lent.

so if it was looked upon favorably in religious contexts it would have been mentioned in scripture if God wanted us placing an importance upon it similar to what the pagans did.

Where are chairs described as important? Protestants sit on chairs in church, do they not? Should they not do this since it's not specifically encouraged by scripture?

I'm not questioning anastasis. I'm questioning the use of the egg to commemorate it.

Who is this directed towards? The Church doesn't proscribe eggs. Eggs aren't part of Church tradition.

 

[Hidden In Him]

Okay. Generally speaking, how does the egg play a role? Eggs aren't a part of the Paschal (Easter) liturgies, and their consumption is prohibited during Lent.

Who is this directed towards? The Church doesn't proscribe eggs. Eggs aren't part of Church tradition.

I wasn't referring to liturgies. I was referring to traditions associated with Easter, and eggs are a part of that tradition.

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[LanaPodesta]

I was referring to traditions associated with Easter, and eggs are a part of that tradition.

Nope. Beyond breaking the fast and being able to eat animal products again, eggs aren't a Church tradition. Unless that's what you mean? So are you saying it's wrong to consume eggs altogether? Or it's wrong to refrain from eating them?

 

[LanaPodesta]

I wasn't referring to liturgies. I was referring to traditions associated with Easter

Don't really get this. Easter is celebrated...in church...at liturgy. And there are no 'eggs'...so like, what's your point?

 

[Hidden In Him]

Don't really get this. Easter is celebrated...in church...at liturgy. And there are no 'eggs'...so like, what's your point?

Lana, you do this too often. You feign offering to engage in an intellectual debate but it just devolves into a game of "tag you're it."

Gonna wait for Mockingbird to respond.

 

[LanaPodesta]

Lana, you do this too often. You feign offering to engage in an intellectual debate but it just devolves into a game of "tag you're it."

Gonna wait for Mockingbird to respond.

Well could you please tell me what role 'eggs' play in Easter? As I've probably said before, if you have a problem with something in your church...

 

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[Mockingbird]

The egg is associated with rebirth in the ancient pagan religions.

So you keep saying. You have demonstrated it, from secondary sources which I accept for the time being, only for the Egyptians. I'm not sure it's a symbol of "rebirth" as distinguished from birth, in Orphism.

In any case:
You have not demonstrated the existence of an ancient pagan religious ceremony involving colored eggs.
You have not demonstrated the existence of a Christian religious ceremony involving colored eggs, and
You have not demonstrated a mechanism whereby the later ceremony can be derived from the earlier ceremony.

 

[Hidden In Him]

You have not demonstrated the existence of an ancient pagan religious ceremony involving colored eggs.
You have not demonstrated the existence of a Christian religious ceremony involving colored eggs, and
You have not demonstrated a mechanism whereby the later ceremony can be derived from the earlier ceremony.

Good morning, Mockingbird.

Like some of Lana's posts, I haven't been arguing for any of those things, but rather that the use of the egg in religious contexts has its roots in pagan occultism.

 

[Bruce.Leiter]

I don't care about the trappings of Easter that the world has invented to distract us from the true meaning of that Sunday when Jesus indeed rose from the dead as the historical event upon which our faith is based. Let's focus on what God has done and continues to do for us through that all-powerful event (Colossians 3:1-4).

Col 3:1 If then you have been raised with Christ, seek the things that are above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God.
Col 3:2 Set your minds on things that are above, not on things that are on earth.
Col 3:3 For you have died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God.
Col 3:4 When Christ who is your life appears, then you also will appear with him in glory.

 

[Mockingbird]

Good morning, Mockingbird.

Like some of Lana's posts, I haven't been arguing for any of those things, but rather that the use of the egg in religious contexts has its roots in pagan occultism.

But you haven't demonstrated a link between the pagan occultism and the Easter egg custom. Medievalists derive the Easter egg custom from Lenten fasting regulations. (Lana's posts have hinted at this). That strikes me as a more plausible origin than pagan occultism.

My childhood experience of Easter eggs had no occultism in it. We did not recite pagan myths about the origins of the gods in our preparation and use of the Easter eggs. The bright colors were part of the festive merrymaking. And at Easter dinner, we ate the eggs.

 

[LanaPodesta]

Good morning, Mockingbird.

Like some of Lana's posts, I haven't been arguing for any of those things, but rather that the use of the egg in religious contexts has its roots in pagan occultism.

Your argument seems to be "pagans drank water therefore it is pagan to drink water" as opposed to the reality of "pagans drank water but that doesn't mean drinking water is pagan".

I keep asking what role eggs play in Easter church services (they don't play any role in the church I attend) but you have not answered me. There is no Church tradition of eggs being involved the service. If you're referring to local traditions involving eggs...they are just that. Local traditions. Are they in worship of a pagan deity? If yes, then it's a problem. If no, then it's not. It's that simple. Thanks for coming to my TEDTalk.

 

[Hidden In Him]

But you haven't demonstrated a link between the pagan occultism and the Easter egg custom.

There is no direct link. I simply hold it as suspect. This is part of an ongoing discussion on how a collection of things associated with Easter - from Easter eggs to rabbits to pagan goddesses, etc. - lend themselves more to paganism than Christianity.

 

[LanaPodesta]

from Easter eggs to rabbits to pagan goddesses, etc

Can you please tell me how any of those things have anything to do with the ecclesiastical traditions from Easter? I believe I have asked you several times and you seem to be evading this.

 

[Hidden In Him]

Can you please tell me how any of those things have anything to do with the ecclesiastical traditions from Easter? I believe I have asked you several times and you seem to be evading this.

You thought I was arguing that it is part of Ecclesiastical tradition? I have answered several times regarding what I actually am arguing for.

But since everyone keeps redirecting to what I am not saying, I suppose I'll bow out. Arguments are easy to win if you can rewrite what your opponent is saying so that it is easier to refute.

Blessings,
- H

 

[LanaPodesta]

You thought I was arguing that it is part of Ecclesiastical tradition? I have answered several times regarding what I actually am arguing for.

But since everyone keeps redirecting to what I am not saying, I suppose I'll bow out. Arguments are easy to win if you can rewrite what your opponent is saying so that it is easier to refute.

Blessings,
- H

Or you could clarify what you mean? Again, as I keep saying, if your church is worshipping eggs, rabbit, and pagan goddesses then you go find a new church. I would recommend your local Orthodox liturgy. 100% unchanged tradition dating back to the Early Church. No rabbit worship here; only the Trinity.

 

[LanaPodesta]

This is part of an ongoing discussion on how a collection of things associated with Easter - from Easter eggs to rabbits to pagan goddesses, etc. - lend themselves more to paganism than Christianity.

It's interesting how these discussions only take place in Protestant majority forums; not Catholic or Orthodox one's. If your denomination is at risk of worshipping rabbits wouldn't you think it's time to jump ship?

 

[hawkman]

It's interesting how these discussions only take place in Protestant majority forums; not Catholic or Orthodox one's.

Catholic Easter Egg hunt and the Easter bunny is there too .

https://parish.ctkcatholic.com/photoalbums/easter-egg-hunt-apr-2022

 

[LanaPodesta]

Catholic Easter Egg hunt and the Easter bunny is there too .
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https://parish.ctkcatholic.com/photoalbums/easter-egg-hunt-apr-2022

Is the Easter Bunny part of the mass? Does the Vatican have doctrine dedicated to the Easter Bunny? Is the Easter Bunny venerated? Was the Easter Bunny supposedly crucified? If the answer to all the above is NO then I have no idea what your point is.