Humans wrote the Bible - Period!!!

[Classik]

The Bible is NEVER an inspired word of GOD - written by men. The Bible is simply an art written by great scholars and writters of those days. If you wish...perish in your The-Bible-is-the-inspired-word-of-GOD delusion. Soon your eyes shall open and you shall know the truth: that this book is the art of the writters of those period.

That's the kind of nonsense people tell you. I can't be fooled by man 'cause I know this book, the Bible, is the Holy Word of God. Perhaps they'd only believe it when GOD throws down a Bible from the skies. HE'd have to throw down thrillions of Bibles written by HIM in order that those who doubt may believe? GOD has already done similar stuff with Moses on Mount Sinai. Moses broke it.

I have never seen such a perfect book as the bible. It's so rich and overwhelming to be written by mortals. It has survived and is the most popular book on earth. A chapter of it when carefully interpreted, under the Power of the Holy Spirit, can form a book as voluminous as a thousand-pages book. It is new every day.

No book competes with it. It answers all questions.

 

[Chopper]

written by men

Very Good Ckassik, you had me going there in your first three lines. Last week, I gave the book "Evidence that Demands a Verdict" by Josh McDowell to one of my grandson's who is an intellectual, steeped in Eastern thought. He says "men wrote the Bible". I'm interested if you have a good reply to that statement?

 

[Milk-Drops]

The Bible isn't the only book that claims this though. There is the Bhgavad Gita, The Koran, The Dham Padas, and even the greeks saw revelations and signs they claimed were from their Gods. These books also are just as deep. What you need to understand is the Bible is a book. Its not perfect. Its a source. The only confirmation that the Bible was written by God, is the Bible itself.

You are mentioning that God Gave Moses written word, Where did that come from? The Bible, the only record.

Using the source, to prove the same source takes a ton of faith. People have been scammed over by this type of reasoning. I certainly have. This kind of reasoning seems to only work for Holy texts.

 

[Elijah674]

The Bible is NEVER an inspired word of GOD - written by men. The Bible is simply an art written by great scholars and writters of those days. If you wish...perish in your The-Bible-is-the-inspired-word-of-GOD delusion. Soon your eyes shall open and you shall know the truth: that this book is the art of the writters of those period.

That's the kind of nonsense people tell you. I can't be fooled by man 'cause I know this book, the Bible, is the Holy Word of God. Perhaps they'd only believe it when GOD throws down a Bible from the skies. HE'd have to throw down thrillions of Bibles written by HIM in order that those who doubt may believe? GOD has already done similar stuff with Moses on Mount Sinai. Moses broke it.

I have never seen such a perfect book as the bible. It's so rich and overwhelming to be written by mortals. It has survived and is the most popular book on earth. A chapter of it when carefully interpreted, under the Power of the Holy Spirit, can form a book as voluminous as a thousand-pages book. It is new every day.

No book competes with it. It answers all questions.

Is this not against the sites agenda?

And it was HOLY MEN OF GOD THAT PENNED THE WORD! + GOD HIMSELF!
(Who says that it is not??)

--Elijah

 

[Classik]

The Bible isn't the only book that claims this though. There is the Bhgavad Gita, The Koran, The Dham Padas, and even the greeks saw revelations and signs they claimed were from their Gods. These books also are just as deep. What you need to understand is the Bible is a book. Its not perfect. Its a source. The only confirmation that the Bible was written by God, is the Bible itself.

You are mentioning that God Gave Moses written word, Where did that come from? The Bible, the only record.

Using the source, to prove the same source takes a ton of faith. People have been scammed over by this type of reasoning. I certainly have. This kind of reasoning seems to only work for Holy texts.

You must have noticed some similarities between the Bible and some other books. Which copied which? Which precedes which?

 

[stovebolts]

I have never seen such a perfect book as the bible. It's so rich and overwhelming to be written by mortals. It has survived and is the most popular book on earth. A chapter of it when carefully interpreted, under the Power of the Holy Spirit, can form a book as voluminous as a thousand-pages book. It is new every day.

No book competes with it. It answers all questions.

Amen Brother!

 

[Classik]

written by men

Very Good Ckassik, you had me going there in your first three lines. Last week, I gave the book "Evidence that Demands a Verdict" by Josh McDowell to one of my grandson's who is an intellectual, steeped in Eastern thought. He says "men wrote the Bible". I'm interested if you have a good reply to that statement?

Hallo Your last paragraph is a little unclear.

 

[Classik]

The Bible isn't the only book that claims this though. There is the Bhgavad Gita, The Koran, The Dham Padas, and even the greeks saw revelations and signs they claimed were from their Gods. These books also are just as deep.

why not. Some of them are also inspired - not by Jehovah. Some may be inspired through demons.

What you need to understand is the Bible is a book. Its not perfect.

The imperfection? Human errors in translations and such things.

Its a source. The only confirmation that the Bible was written by God, is the Bible itself.

And also the Spirit of GOD in you. Absolutely it's the Bible (the Word of GOD) that should do that. Other source may be flawed. Christians use HIS Word to interprete HIS Word. Should we use a human source?

You are mentioning that God Gave Moses written word, Where did that come from? The Bible, the only record.

Using the source, to prove the same source takes a ton of faith. People have been scammed over by this type of reasoning. I certainly have. This kind of reasoning seems to only work for Holy texts.

using the same source confirms the same source to me. This Book never ceases to amaze me each second I read it. There is always something new and overwhelming. A lot of info in it are coming true

 

[Sparkey]

You are mentioning that God Gave Moses written word, Where did that come from? The Bible, the only record.

The question is asked outside of its proper time-frame. It could be answered with visual evidence had you lived thousands of years ago. Here, let me ask another to try to demonstrate my point: What items were contained in the Arc of the Covenant? I'm being silly here by pretending that movie is based on total reality but have you not seen Raiders of the Lost Arc? I think the question raised is also silly essentially denying known facts, confirmed by evidence, as if they can no longer be held true. Not really trying to start a big debate on the subject but only saying that it doesn't take much to figure things out. Even going to a book seller and looking at the supplements found in the Thompson Chain Reference study bible could help. Alternately one could go to the Quran to find confirmation of its existence.

 

[Vaccine]

It has survived and is the most popular book on earth.

Amen!

No book competes with it. It answers all questions.

And amen!

 

[Messenger]

I can't be fooled by man 'cause I know this book, the Bible, is the Holy Word of God.

I have never seen such a perfect book as the bible. It's so rich and overwhelming to be written by mortals. It has survived and is the most popular book on earth.

A chapter of it when carefully interpreted, under the Power of the Holy Spirit, can form a book as voluminous as a thousand-pages book. It is new every day.

No book competes with it. It answers all questions.

Nice post, Classik. Your testimony of God's Word gives Him all the Glory!

 

[Speculative]

2 Peter 1:21 Men wrote the Bible as they were moved by the Holy Spirit. To say men wrote the Bible is like saying my keyboard wrote this post. God is the author of the Bible. Men were his instruments. Good post, Classik

 

[Christ_empowered]

The Good News is foolishness to those still in the world. That may well be a bad paraphrase from The Bible...not sure. But, its true...until and unless God moves upon you, you'll see The Bible as, at best, an interesting religious text written a long time ago.

 

[Milk-Drops]

You must have noticed some similarities between the Bible and some other books. Which copied which? Which precedes which?

The Koran is only one which is younger than the Bible. There are tons of Syrian, Persian, and Accadian myths that share similar stories with the Bibles that predate the Old testament writings. Conviently enough, all these socieites held power over the tribes of Isreal. Most notably the Sumarians, Persians, and Romans.

 

[Milk-Drops]

why not. Some of them are also inspired - not by Jehovah. Some may be inspired through demons.

Heres the thing. I've read them. I've read your Bible. I wanted to be a pastor. Many of the stories within the old testament are shockingly similar to some Hindu, Zorastrian, and Sumarian myths. The Star of David actually has a root in Hinduism that predates Judaism.

The imperfection? Human errors in translations and such things.
And also the Spirit of GOD in you. Absolutely it's the Bible (the Word of GOD) that should do that. Other source may be flawed. Christians use HIS Word to interprete HIS Word. Should we use a human source?

Let me pose the question clearly. How do you know that Bible is God inspired? How do you know it wasn't the creation of man?

 

[Vaccine]

why not. Some of them are also inspired - not by Jehovah. Some may be inspired through demons.

Heres the thing. I've read them. I've read your Bible. I wanted to be a pastor. Many of the stories within the old testament are shockingly similar to some Hindu, Zorastrian, and Sumarian myths. The Star of David actually has a root in Hinduism that predates Judaism.

Predated Judaism? I remember reading people criticized the bible because it was thought Moses writings predated written language. Then they found some dagger with an inscription that was dated from Moses time.

The imperfection? Human errors in translations and such things.
And also the Spirit of GOD in you. Absolutely it's the Bible (the Word of GOD) that should do that. Other source may be flawed. Christians use HIS Word to interprete HIS Word. Should we use a human source?

Let me pose the question clearly. How do you know that Bible is God inspired? How do you know it wasn't the creation of man?

there was a thread discussing this http://www.christianforums.net/showthread.php?t=52749&p=820765&highlight=#post820765

 

[Claudya]

Even if the absolute power that we call God exists and wants to communicate with us, how should a mortal human with her or his limited mind and with her/his thinking shaped by the cultural context we live in and our experience and, heck, even by the mood of the moment, how should we be able to understand those messages in their absolute meaning? We can't even understand our best friends or spouses correctly sometimes, let alone fellow humans from a different culture. So how should we be able to correctly understand something so uncomprehensibly different from our nature as God is?
All we know is an image of reality that exists in our minds and that we constructed and keep constructing every waking minute from the pieces of information that we got/are getting during our lifetimes, and that we considered relevant enough and understandable enough to use for constructing our representation of reality in our heads.
So since our understanding of reality is so subjective and limited and we cannot know about the Absolute with certainty there's two conclusions about who's word the Bible is.
Personally I believe the Bible is the word of God, but:
1. Every human who was called to write down things the Holy Spirit told them could only hear those things they wer capable of understanding. They wrote down absolute and objective truth seen through the filters of their mind and understood within their own reality construct.
2. There is no objectively correct and unambigious way of understanding and interpreting the Bible, because when reading the Bible we can and will only understand what we are capable of understanding, depending on cultural context. We will filter out thing we unwittingly consider irrelevant and associate side meanings and connotations with the words that they may not have had by the time our translation was written.
There is no way for human minds to get around those limits of subjectivity and constructed reality. That's how seperate we are from God.

So the Bible is the word of God, understood and interpreted by humans. It's a number of reports and tales of what how humans in a certain place in history encountered God and how they experienced His presence and His will. So from what those people tell us, we can still try to conclude what God wanted them to do and how He changed their lives.

It's interesting other cultures have similar myths. Maybe in their spiritual walk they came across the same experiences and metaphors to describe the undescribable, because those things teach something about the true nature of human and God.

 

[Vaccine]

I believe God created people. I think that means he knows everything there is to know about us. If people were just some byproduct of an almighty powers creation I see exactly why people believe what they do, why they doubt Gods love, attention or existence.
I believe God intentionally, purposefully made humans in his image. I don't think there is an emotion or thought that exists, that God himself did not know about first. Love, hate, passion, rage, doubt, mercy, He owns them. He made them. He understands human beings. What he made for good has been corrupted, but we can trust God can love us for who we are, not what we've done.
That being said he, for reasons known to him, choose to express his purposes and plan through this book. I think people often wonder why God doesn't just appear in the sky and say "here I am, stop doubting". But would we? Knowledge and faith are two different things. You may KNOW who's president yet doubt he cares about you personally. If God wanted us to know him he would have done that. I believe God wants our faith and for us to know he knows us on a personal level. I can see why some might think there's a better way to go about doing that. On the other hand, this Book is several thousand years old and still relevant.

 

[Chopper]

Hallo Your last paragraph is a little unclear

The question has been answered.

 

[Chopper]

To say men wrote the Bible is like saying my keyboard wrote this post. God is the author of the Bible. Men were his instruments. Good post, Classik

I like that example, think I'll use it the next ding-dong that says it.